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Re: KLX's - a shared disease
« Reply #225 on: January 01, 2013, 01:20:45 am »
 No they came out great!
Motor sounds healthy with a decent amount of midrange, and it looks just like round here......[welsh marches]

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Re: KLX's - a shared disease
« Reply #226 on: January 02, 2013, 12:58:27 am »
It's done, 412 cc, megacycle cam and a flatslide carb, gonna run it on Wed, let you guys know how it goes



Can anyone tell me where you got this exaust pipe (bending)? Is it thicker than the original?

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Re: KLX's - a shared disease
« Reply #227 on: January 02, 2013, 09:03:16 pm »
 A mate of mine can bend up a pipe for a standard KLX using my KLX. He's brilliant at it, does a lot of two stroke pipe/expansion work, that's in the UK

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Re: KLX's - a shared disease
« Reply #228 on: January 09, 2013, 07:51:20 pm »
Paulsky

How is your bike going.

Was the 412 cc a good solution?
Can you please tell us about the engine build?

Thanks Mark

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Re: KLX's - a shared disease
« Reply #229 on: January 09, 2013, 08:33:38 pm »
I am guessing XL350 bored (stroked ??) and a decent cam.
It would be nice to see some close ups of the engine swap. I have a good friend that has taken the XL350 out to 470 and 500cc.
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Re: KLX's - a shared disease
« Reply #230 on: January 20, 2013, 04:18:46 pm »
G'Day you blokes i have posted this text before but have finally finished the bling on the old girl thanks to somme new plastics from Les at VMX Unlimited and some new stickers thanks to a mate with a laser cutter. So i thought i'd put it in again to go with the pic.
I have a 1981 KLX 250,
I have used a KZ 250 ( road bike ) barrel and head on the original bottom end.
The KZ barrel has 249cc stamped on it as opposed to 246cc which is stamped on the original KLX.
The head has a roller cam bearing on the sprocket end.
I have shaved 1mm off the head and machined the inlet port and inlet manifold to get an uninterrupted flow from the carb into the engine.
I had the original cam shaft re-machined by a bloke in Brisbane  ( Ivan Tighe ). It now gives peak performance fairly high in the rev range.
I am still running the original carby, although i did race a KLX in the early 80's with a Delorto pumper on it.
The jets I am using are a 135 pilot and 150 main, large i know and it does run a little rich but has none of the usual KLX flat spots, and pulls hard all through the rev range.
I am running 1 1/2 inch exhaust. I have also addes an staintune muffler ( after the photo was taken ) which also improved the power right accross the rev range

I ride the bike in vinduros and ride it around the place a fair bit as it is road resisted.
The handeling is great, I had the rear shocks rebuilt by RAD in Brissy, the forks are standard with ATF oil and about 8 P.S.I. pressure.
The bike is still a little challenged in the power department but does get everything it's got down to the ground, which along with the handleing alows you to get around at a competeitive pace.
The biggest probem with riding the bike is that you get a lot of flys caught in you teeth cause you're smiling al the time. ;D.
cheers Bretto.
ps T.A.R.T. stands for Tight Arse Racing Team. :D


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Re: KLX's - a shared disease
« Reply #231 on: January 20, 2013, 05:05:21 pm »
Great job Bretto! Good to see the KLX with all the enduro fruit installed. Bring it along to a club day QVMX. Regardless of the power I am sure it won't be the last bike home - especially on the tighter tracks where you can use all the power it puts to the ground. Have fun  ;D ;D
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Re: KLX's - a shared disease
« Reply #232 on: January 22, 2013, 12:40:12 am »
 Lovely Bike!
 Did you use standard springs or aftermarket valve springs?
I have a roller engine ready to go in, new standard cam and 1mm rebore

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Re: KLX's - a shared disease
« Reply #233 on: January 22, 2013, 07:13:40 am »
Just standard valve springs Cloggy.
Do you reckon aftermarket springs would make a difference ?
You should consider getting the cam reground , makes a huge difference , are 1mm oversize pistons and rings readily available ?

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Re: KLX's - a shared disease
« Reply #234 on: January 22, 2013, 09:38:20 am »
I seem to have kick start issues. Cloggy, do you have any kick levers ? I have exhausted my supply of bits to make a good one. In desparation I am thinking of using an arc welder and a hard face rod to re-build the worn parts on the boss and lever. Failing that, I reckon a kick assembly from a KX250 or similar may fit.
I have tried the non-genuine Emgo lever assemblies. Lasted three kicks before it started to bend. Damn Taiwanese shit.

Anyone have knowledge of other kickers that fit the spline ??
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Re: KLX's - a shared disease
« Reply #235 on: January 22, 2013, 09:55:49 am »
 I had an old aftermarket english piston. I got 4 sets of rings of the same make for a Z1000 off ebay and it all went together.. I originally had  an altered cam running standard springs from another motor and managed to wear a flat on the cam due to valve bounce. Could have been the springs, may have been past their best. Anyway I sorted out that motor with a hone, new rings and an old standard cam; and in the roller motor I have a rebore and brand new standard cam and springs, swapped cases and some new gearbox bearings
 It had a  peppier top end with the altered cam. It would really rev but I haven't raced it since, possibly a better trail bike with the standard cam.
 On the old cam there is provision for altering the timing  from KL to KZ but the roller just has that central bolt  and  peg fitting. Kawasaki standardised the cam timing.
 I had to get another roller cam as the original roller cam had a flat worn into one cam face too; maybe due to no valve clearance. Even the roller cam lubrication is nothing much to write home about
 As regards the kick start I think I only have two amongst all the engine stuff. However they aren't the same. One seems to be standard KLX but the other is simpler,  I'd expect the KZ200 kicker to work
Here's one
 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/KAWASAKI-Z200-KZ200-KICKSTART-LEVER/330850038518?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item4d0832f2f6

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Re: KLX's - a shared disease
« Reply #236 on: February 03, 2013, 04:53:11 am »
I was only looking for a Swing-Arm!

   You see I was thinking about building a twin shock XR500 to race VMX and found a pic of someone's build with a very cool swing arm. After doing some research, I found out it was from a 79 KLX250. What the heck is a KLX. I never heard of a KLX back in the day, (I raced RM's) so I started to Google KLX and found this forum and thread. This was over two months ago. Now, thanks to you all, I have the disease!

   I found a running 79 KLX on Craigslist for $300 and bought it. Using tips from people in this forum, I have started the process of trying to make the KLX transform into a MXer. Heavy duty clutch springs, HD valve springs, Piston, Megacycle cam, Carb & Exhaust. If I can get it to run, then, I'll invest in suspension.

 All your bikes just look so damn cool, I had to go for it.




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Re: KLX's - a shared disease
« Reply #237 on: February 07, 2013, 12:43:56 pm »
Welcome virusdog, Only when you can snatch the pebble from my hand will you become a real KLX owner.  ;)

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Re: KLX's - a shared disease
« Reply #238 on: February 07, 2013, 04:00:41 pm »
Welcome virusdog, Only when you can snatch the pebble from my hand will you become a real KLX owner.  ;)

Ha Ha
He will need to move quicker than a KLX then :D ;D
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Re: KLX's - a shared disease
« Reply #239 on: February 12, 2013, 10:57:46 pm »
im looking for stator resistances on the  grey wire to earth... I have 550 ohms roughly

Bike wont rev out..

have exchanged plugs. cdi. coil..  no difference.. have followed through wiring with multimeter all ok, cleaned earths.

Its the stator or...jetting

I ahve two other stators , but get a a big fat 1 on the grey wire which im pretty sure are the ignition coils, so theyre dead

I think the pick up is ok.

Starts easy, pulls well until 3/4 throttle then stumbles..

Standard jetting, 262cc , roller head KLF, standard cam , 1 1/2" pipe, opened up muffler.

any suggestions? thks