VF250 complete

[runutz698]

Looks Awsome montynut I need to know what that color is on the forks and clamps?? what did you use do you have a paint code??,

[All Things 414]

Very nice Greg! Did that have the leading brake standard? I've converted my 414 over to that as it works 100 times better. Where the blazes did the bar pad come from? I know it had the standard bars however I didn't think it had that on it!
You did a better job of that than I ever would have. Again, it's tops!
I noticed my H7 (83) also has an Acerbis tank. I wonder if they made the VG tanks?.....

[paul]

nice job   

[runutz698]

Ross I think the breaks must be standard, as mine is the same, and that is one of the parts I got with the bike.
Monty nut is that the orginal seat?? as it looks a little distorted in the picture, I don't know if that is lighting??

Cheers
Tom

[montynut]

Thanks everyone,
I did post some as delivered photos mid last year but have attached a couple. As I said in my post it was a far easier restore than most as it was all there and original. Makes it far easier

Thanks to Ross for putting me onto the bike as I was chasing his VB360 which was for sale then wasn't, then was etc so he felt sorry for me and suggested this one.

Had another rie today after the post shakedown check over. The bike really hammers. Gearing needs to be lower (back to stock) and a spocket is on the way.

Ross the brakes are not twin leading shoe and they are not the assemetrical arrangement as on the VG / H7 they appear to be standard and certainly standard shoes from Jared went straight on. I believe the VG fuel tank was also Acerbis

Runutz638 I am affraid I have no paint code. I took the fork legs and triple clamps to my painter and he basically matched them as best possible. The steering stem had paint on it which was completely origianal and he matched too that. I am not 100% happy but he pulled his hair out, about 95% happy but I didn't tell him. The code Jared suggested meant nothing to my painter. The fork finish on my bike seems to lack just the slightest metalic look. But I am not too worried about it as without comparing side by side it is very difficult to tell. Except now I have told everyone

[All Things 414]

I wonder why they didn't put that front brake set-up on the VF414?  Same for the rubber mounted bar mounts? 
Lyall reckoned that the gear box was a lot different to the Vb's but the outer casings all look the same. He also reckoned that they had an internal rotor ignition and that the hot set-up was to put the ignition on a 414 if you were ballsy enough to hang onto it.

Maybe he had it mixed up with the 250VG.....

[holeshot buddy]

looks great love the vf s
gunna get me one someday

[montynut]

External rotor ignition I'm afraid Ross. Exact part numbers as per the parts book, VE also has external rotor. I actually thought they were internal. I thought I remembered by friend's VB250 from '77 had an internal rotor but I could be wrong (age does dim the memory, after all the older we get the faster we were).

We did have a long post discusion about the handlebar pad some time ago, remember I had the rare handlebar pad but your 'new' 414 had the even rarer little kickstart joint rubber thingy.

The Marzocchi forks on the 250 are still only 35mm not the 38mm fitted to the 414 or are they 40mm?

Runutz638 yes it has the original seat and foam. I have a repo foam and cover from Jared which are excellent quality but there is a difference between the VE & VF seats due to the different tank shape. The originals, while not perfect, are exactly correct. I can always upgrade/change if the seat starts to fall to pieces. The seat base on the 250 is plastic. How about the 414?

Tried to load some 'as bought' photos but the site tell me they are not correct type even though I loaded them in an earlier post. Try again later. My bike was very original and a straight forward although not cheap (they never are) restoration. All credit to Tom for his VF250 as he chased parts all over the place to piece together a great bike, I think it almost drove him to distraction  :'( a few times. Particularly right at the very end when he thought he had it licked there was an expensive and frustrating hirdle to get over with the crank/engine failure.

[All Things 414]

The VF 414 has 38mm forks (dammit!) however they work pretty good. It must have been the VG which had the lower crank and internal flywheel. Jared?
Actually with the PVL ignition (internal flywheel) on my 390 motor that I built, the power is still quite predictable. Just a little hairy on greasy surfaces.....

[runutz698]

Yeah that is what I used, the foam and cover is from Jared I thought it looked quite good against the tank, But I did spend 3hrs fitting it to get it to sit correctly. The seat base I got was in need to repair which I did and you could never tell. I also have another VF Tank I am working on which will be better than the one on the bike.

Intrestingly the Gas Gas tank on a mates 250 fits my bike whitch I found wierd and the fuel cap is the same size and thread, Do you think gas gas may of ended up buying the moulds?? I just find it wierd that it is so close, as the cap on all the newer bikes is alot bigger in size and tanks are totally diffrent.

Cheers
Tom

[cappra]

From the parts books:
All 360's and 414's came standard with external rotor mags (flywheel)
1977/78 VB 250's had internal rotor mags.
VE, VF and VG 240's were fitted with external rotor mags (flywheel)
of course the magneto's on the 250's were smaller than on the 360/414's.
When Montesa returned to the external rotor mags on the 250's in 79'
they used different crankwheels that are lighter to compensate for the
weight of the flywheel.  The stroke on the 250 is the same as on the 360
(64mm) so with the VB's the crank assembly was interchangeble.
This changed with the VE 250 in 79' as the crankshaft halves have a new part
number.