shane & i took it off turtell & wheeled it back to the pits,the front cable was dissconnected from the bottom lever arm,the cable retainers' slot was wide enough for the cable to pass through,but i made the observation there was no hole enlargement to locate & retain the nipple,to me it just popped out,maybe due to the bikes somersaulting antics,i did not look at the rear wheel,only noted the squashed centre portion of the expipe,wondering to self what part of Les had achieved that?,that little point with the cable nipple would not have been noted by a scrutineer!(in my opion),mick