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Tech Talk / Re: Mikuni needle, part 2, taper start.
« on: September 03, 2024, 04:38:10 pm »
I got a company in Brisbane to make me some overzize blanks for my 750 triple. I then linished them down , till I hit the sweet spot.


On my Honda VTR1000F, I used stock needles in the 48 CV's, but I turned-down the bottom half (from 1/2 throttle on) to match Dynojet needles, love it !

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Tech Talk / Mikuni needle, part 2, taper start.
« on: September 03, 2024, 01:35:55 pm »
Regarding Mikuni 6-series needles, I have always wondered, " how much of the needle straight section is still available after the idle position of the slide" so I measured it. Mikuni quote a distance to the start of the taper for all their needles, but, how does that relate to throttle application?

These measurements were taken on my VM38 with right side idle adjuster (my left side idle adjuster measures differently, turns out it's an OEM Kawa slide.) I guess there is a bit of variation between the various models of VM carbs, especially when it comes to Chinese carbs, my Chinese carbs measured way different.

I took the measurements with the slide at 1.00mm from totally bottomed-out, my bike had the idle running sweet at .9mm but I've had some bikes that had the slide raised about 2.0mm at idle, although I think the idle mixture too rich and necessitated the extra air from a higher slide?


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Tech Talk / Mikuni 6 series needle comparison graph
« on: August 31, 2024, 11:17:03 pm »
Hey Chaps, I have, in a semi accurate process, created a couple of Mikuni 6 series needle graphs, I only used the details of the needles that I carry, only because it would have been too busy a graph to have more info. I find these graphs easier for a quick comparison between needles.

I am not familiar with creating online graphs using Excel, Microsoft or Google-sheets, so I drew the graphs in Excel then joined the dots, I am sure there would be someone among us that could create a professional looking job? Ian Williams Tuning had an even rougher looking chart on his website, I figured I could make something a little more legible. It was difficult to squeeze in needle diameters of .01mm increments (but I did it) in a graph, I also did one in .02mm increments but it wasn't any clearer.

I hope some find it helpful, regards, John.



My quoted 6FL14 specs do not match the MikuniOz, or any other Mikuni seller's website, as after measuring, their dimensions are wrong, I did find a website listing that does quote, what looks to be correct dimensions, this website even has all the specs for OEM fitment needles!

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General Discussion / Re: Welcome back. Log in issues.
« on: August 30, 2024, 08:31:11 am »
i had trouble too....i thought it was just old timers setting in
   ::)


I think 'welcome back Al' :-)

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Tech Talk / Re: Twostroke VM jetting, just want to think out loud.
« on: August 26, 2024, 10:32:40 pm »
Well John,

I think this opens the door for you to share your knowledge. Perhaps you would be so kind as to post your thoughts on jetting the Mikuni VM carburettor i a series of articles.

The Mikuni VM series may be old technology but I enjoy the ease of obtaining new stock and parts. I find them easy to work on, compared to other model Mikunis.


Yeh it would be a 'War & Peace' story :-)  I have learned a bit more recently, but it makes me realize that there is so much more to learn? I'll break-down my recent 'realizations' .....

On my wildly ported, high compression (probably too high), VM38 carb'd Yam DT1;

My throttle slide has had numerous attacks with the file to open, or close, the cutaway, my current cutaway equals a 1.5, but due to the many times I have modified it, the 'needle retaining floor of the slide' is now 2mm lower, I had to make a small relief to the under side of the slide, so for it not to bottom-out on the needle-jet shroud, and also make sure the needle does not protrude so far as to hit the main-jet (which it doesn't).

The 2mm lower needle capture means that, with the needle in groove number one (top), it is really -2, heaps leaner, but, because I dropped from 2.5 cutaway to 1.5, the richer cutaway means the needle is not as lean as it might normally be. Plus the filed bottom of the slide has reduced the size of the cavity under the slide, further reducing air pressure (or increasing air-speed and hence vacuum) above the needle-jet, giving a rise to the enrichment, further limiting how much leaner the needle had become.

Now, the many fuel circuit maps of VM carbs are correct but incorrect, they are not as clear-cut as they appear, there is so much overlap (at times) with 'slide-cutaway', 'needle-straight-section' and 'needle-jet'. The many offerings of Mikuni needles, give very little range in diameters of the straight portion of the needle (2.50mm to 2.538), so, to get the air/fuel ratio correct at 'JUST off idle, you have to select the right size needle-jet, but, if your engine needs plenty of fuel at that point, and you go big with a needle-jet, it can also give a lot of fuel all through the needle effected range (half & three quarter throttle), in many instances, it is hard to find a useable needle taper to deal with the amount of fuel the big needle-jet is giving, once off the needle-straight-section.

Reducing the slide cutaway can richen; idle and part throttle mixtures, so if you need a richer mixture at 'just off idle', less cutaway can get you the richness without going to a large needle-jet (that could spoil things once off the straight-section), but, less cutaway will richen idle, so a smaller pilot-jet will be needed.

To a lesser extent, raising & lowering float level can have a small effect on idle & part throttle, but there is only so far you can adjust before you're spilling out fuel, or draining the bowl on those long main straights.

In capping-off this 'just off idle' point; pick a needle-jet that won't send the half & three quarter throttle out of range, then use the slide cutaway to get the 'just off idle' where you want, then match the pilot-jet to the slide-cutaway.

I have read many times; "start your jetting from the main-jet downwards", never really understood that but maybe I do now?

As I fully understand (or think I do) other points, I'll share my thoughts.



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Tech Talk / Twostroke VM jetting, just want to think out loud.
« on: August 25, 2024, 10:00:50 pm »
I am amazed, 50 years after owning and tuning, aircooled twostrokes, with VM Mikuni's, and thinking back then, that I knew what I was doing ...... ha! I think I may just get all this sorted before twostrokes are banned ;-)

After 40 years of building racing fourstroke fours, I am back playing with aircooled twostrokes again, the thinking, and methodology, of a 65 year old is so much different from when I was 15.

I'm enjoying juggling the various VM fuel circuits, in particular the needle straight section v needle jet size, many considerations that had never entered my head before, I feel sorry for my young naive self, I guess also all the young kids tackling life with minimal life experience.

I wonder if I will learn as much in the next 50 years? :-)

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Wanted / WANTED: Yam fork bottoming cone.
« on: August 15, 2024, 03:19:52 pm »
Hey Guy's, I was wondering if anyone might have 1 or 2 Yam DT2 fork bottoming cones, that sit on the bottom of the damping rods, I think most early Yam twostrokes, DT, RT, YZA, MXA might run the same cones, or actually any bottoming cones with a 13mm ID? Could they be posted to Central Victoria? Thanks in advance.

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Tech Talk / Re: Yam DT1 front brake cam improvement?
« on: August 12, 2024, 08:58:44 pm »
I think I've found the issue, the elcheapo shoes don't sit central in the drum, when I lock the brake on, with the shoes in the hub, I can't slide the axle through, as I release the brake pressure, then the axle will slide through ...... hmmmm.

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Tech Talk / Yam DT1 front brake cam improvement?
« on: August 11, 2024, 05:27:39 pm »
Hey Guy's, does anyone know of a front drum brake cam that will work in place of the stock cam on a DT1 (and just about any Yam dirtbike from '68 to '76), the actuating pad between the brake shoes has a very gentle action, causing a spongy lever action. I guess I could weld a bead of weld across my stocker but I'd rather find something that will bolt-in from another model if possible.

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General Discussion / Re: Welcome back. Log in issues.
« on: August 10, 2024, 09:48:43 pm »
Whoo Hoo we're back !!! :-)

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Tech Talk / Re: 1980 RM 400 fouling plugs
« on: June 13, 2024, 11:08:15 pm »
If it appears to be blowing way too much smoke (oil), maybe it has a damaged crankshaft gearbox oil seal?

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Tech Talk / Re: 1980 RM 400 fouling plugs
« on: June 12, 2024, 11:49:10 am »
Probably not your oil/fuel mix, more the fuel/air mix :-)

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Tech Talk / Re: Circlip on countershaft
« on: June 11, 2024, 07:00:28 pm »
If it has a nut, most surely the countershaft needs to be pulled hard to that side by the nut, so that all the gears sit in the correct position.

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Competition / Re: Classic Weekend - Conondale QLD
« on: June 07, 2024, 09:35:28 am »
Thanks for advising, unfortunately us Victorians will have to spend the weekend in the cold


Yeh :-( But still having a ride :-)

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Tech Talk / Re: NGK B10E & B10ES
« on: March 31, 2024, 07:30:33 pm »
Yep that makes sense, the porcelain is 2mm longer on the S.

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