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Messages - Michael Moore

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Tech Talk / Re: An odd kick start lever
« on: March 14, 2017, 01:57:05 pm »
It seems like it could work OK, even on bigger bikes.  Kick levers often get worn and sloppy and there might be enough bearing area with the Cota 25 arrangement to slow down the wear.

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Tech Talk / Re: An odd kick start lever
« on: March 14, 2017, 10:41:03 am »
Thanks Steve, that may be it.  The vague memory included a canted-forward lever and this high-res photo of a 25 shows exactly that.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/49/Montesa_Cota_25_1974.JPG

I had been thinking with the forward lean on the lever that it was a last gasp Bultaco/Montesa open-class prototype MXer.  I guess the Cota 25 would qualify as that if it had another 40-45 hp.

:)

cheers,
Michael

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Tech Talk / An odd kick start lever
« on: March 14, 2017, 03:28:02 am »
I have a very vague recollection of having read an article on a VMX/Vinduro bike, quite possibly a European factory prototype of the 1970/80s, that had a novel kick lever.

Instead of having a pivot at the base or at the top, the main shaft had a cross hole at the top and the foot pedal would slide in/out perpendicular to the center plane of the bike as needed, with a detent holding it in position.

I've looked though some of my books that have a lot of period photos but I can't spot anything like that and my memory which is usually pretty good for odd bits of trivia is failing me on this.

Does this strike a familiar chord for anyone?

cheers,
Michael

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Wanted / Re: YZ250D forks
« on: March 07, 2017, 03:43:48 pm »
You could try a broom handle up the tube, while applying pressure and using a rattle gun. Prolly a 2 man job though.

That's the my next thing to try if the impact doesn't loosen it with just fork spring pressure.

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General Discussion / Re: Motorcycle lifts
« on: May 17, 2016, 03:47:37 pm »
Some of the cheap ones are pretty flexible sideways.  A friend had his Commando end up on the garage floor because of that.

I've got Handy Lift, and now he does too. 

cheers,
Michael

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Saturday morning: Larry Huffman, "Rocket" Rex Staten, Harry Klemm, and the CZ on which Staten led the USGP at Carlsbad CA.

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Here's a shot of some of the bikes on display on Saturday morning.  To the right of the camera (outside of view) is a row of side-pipers and to the right of that is a row of twin-pipe bikes.  There are more bikes out of sight to the left of the camera too.

http://www.eurospares.com/graphics/CZJawa/CZWC_2016a.jpg

Each era got their own row (or more as needed) starting from the front - twin-pipe, side pipe, yellow tank, coffin tank, late-model bikes.

cheers,
Michael

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CZ / Re: Harry Klemm Article on making CZ's work good!
« on: April 26, 2016, 06:20:36 am »
I talked to Harry for a few minutes yesterday at the CZ World Championships.  I told him how much I appreciated all the information he'd put on his website, and that I found it both informative as well as enjoyable to read.  He seemed to be a little surprised to get a compliment.

cheers,
Michael

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Competition / 3rd Annual Don Matthews' CZ World Championship event
« on: April 26, 2016, 06:04:22 am »
I spent this weekend north of Sacramento CA at the 3rd annual CZ World Championships vintage MX event.

My friend Jim insisted on driving 460 miles from Los Angeles to bring his 1973 380cc CZ to sponsor me (he can't ride at this time due to a blown-out knee) so how could I turn down a deal like that?

There were a number of notable individuals at the event.  Factory riders Jiri Stodulka and Miroslav Hanacek came over from Europe, the "grand marshal" was Larry Huffman (the voice of AMA pro racing for decades) and he also did the announcing, and US racers and tuners with a CZ connection were Rex Staten and his tuner Harry Klemm, John DeSoto, Donnie Cantaloupi, and 2X World Champion Brad Lackey.  There were no doubt others but those are the big names.  There were also a group of enthusiast riders from Ireland, and others from England, France and Italy who had come over to race.

There was a presentation on Saturday morning of the celebrities and a line-up of all the CZs in attendance.  I think there was probably an easy 100 of them, 10 or so twin pipers, a row of side pipers, and then a couple of rows of the later yellow tank/coffin tank bikes.  There was one Jawa ISDT bike and a couple of early 60s Jawa twin-pipe Mxers.

And the big thing is that almost all of the MX bikes were being raced that weekend.

I saw the Czechs out on twin pipers but they probably also rode some later bikes in the "pro challenge" races.

The track was on some river bottom land under a freeway overpass and was a nice mixture of sand/clay and it stayed in very good shape all weekend.  It got a little dusty Sunday afternoon and the bumps were showing up (including some square-edge potholes that I seemed to usually manage to hit) but all in all it was a fun 2nd and 3rd gear on an open bike (with Novice rider) track with big berms on the outside of all the corners.  There was about a minute's worth of track off the start gate that then dumped into the main track, and that section wasn't used after the start.

The weather was very pleasant, mid 60Fs with minimal wind until during the awards ceremony when a big thunderstorm blew in and canopies were going everywhere in the midst of a dust storm.  I left the track right after that hit and the next 15 minutes on the highway were a torrential downpour with high crosswinds and my Mazda kept flashing the "skid" warning light as it was aquaplaning even at 50mph. 

There were 24 grids/races and the program ran twice.  I think I heard over 250 entries for the day.

A nice thing before the awards was they asked for a show of hands of people who were sponsored that day, and had all of us come up front.  Then they asked the sponsors to come forward and stand on the other side of the trophies.  The riders were each given a cool "Czech Motor Pool" t-shirt and asked to go over and hand it to the sponsors as a thank-you from the organizers for them putting bikes and riders on the track.  So Jim now has a limited-edition shirt to add to his collection.

cheers,
Michael

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General Discussion / Re: Suspension travel limit - which bikes?
« on: June 03, 2015, 01:55:38 pm »
Hi Michael,
The rule (in part) doesn't say vertical travel, it says front wheel travel, so it should be as simple as putting a zip tie on the fork leg and giving it a good bounce.

An easy response to that is "front wheel travel in what direction?"  Horizontally, vertically, along the steering axis?  If the latter than what about Bultacos that have the forks angled differently from the steering axis?

Teleforks generally get defined by actual telescopic travel.   But a telefork at a steeper rake is going to have a larger amount of vertical travel and might be able to absorb a larger bump with it.  A telefork with the same stroke on your typical chopper (or raked out Triumph desert sled) won't be able to deal with that bump as well because the wheel movement is more rearwards than vertical.

Rear suspension appears to usually be defined by the rules in various organizations by vertical travel.   The actual amount of wheel-path travel for a given vertical dimension on a swing arm suspension will vary with the relative height of the swing arm pivot.  A LLF is more like the rear suspension (both use swing arms) than it is a telefork, so it could be sensible to also measure the travel vertically.  I presume there is a desire to be consistent and not comparing apples and oranges, but that could be a presumptious assumption.

Shucks, you could even say that teleforks are defined by actual damper travel, so if that is the way the rule is worded any LLF that had less than 7" of travel in the damper should be legal, no matter what the wheel travel might be.

I can put a zip tie on the stanchion of a Greeves LLF and bounce the front end and the zip tie won't move at all.  Or I can put it on the damper shaft and say "see, I've got another 3 inches I can add before not being legal".

Words mean things, so you have to be careful how you use them.  A rule that depends on poorly defined terms may find itself being challenged with a "what does that actually mean?" question.

If front wheel travel is meant to be measured in a straight line between full bump/full droop axle positions then the rule ought to say that, especially when there are 10-20 years of bikes out there that didn't use teleforks (DOT, Cotton, Greeves, Van Tech, Sachs/DKW/Hercules, Reynolds, some works BSAs and Husqvarnas. Scorpion, Butler, Sprite, Tandon, Royal Enfield, Maico, Tandon, DMW, Cheney, Rickman etc just to name some that I found in reference books with a couple of minutes of page-turning).  If the actual distance traveled by the axle (which means along the arc, not the chord, for a swing arm) is what is wanted, the rule should say that. 

As I think I said earlier, I think most people are willing to accept a range of rules as long as they sound somewhat reasonable and aren't ambiguous.  But at times it can take a bit of thinking to eliminate ambiguity.

My dealings with AHRMA rules leads me to believe that many times the rules are done by people of good will who are fairly expert in the field, but while their expertise may be deep the breadth of their knowledge is just a bit too limited.  That can lead to a perfectly sound (but limited scope) rule that fails as soon as someone pipes up with "but what about all of these bikes where that doesn't work?"  If they've got zero experience with anything but teleforks, the possibility of making sure that the rule covers leading link/trailing link/girder/who knows what? front ends may never even occur to the rule makers.

I've got/had both Hercules and Greeves LLFs, I've got lots of photos and I can make replicas of Van TechReynolds etc forks and I'd like to run a LLF on some project bikes because I think they are cool and teleforks are kind of dumb.   :P   So I contacted my local rule makers and asked "how do you want to measure the travel of this fork because the rule book doesn't really apply to it and I don't want to show up and have someone hassle me over "too much travel"."  When I can't get an answer it makes me a little uneasy.  I'm not looking for any particular answer, but if they can't pick one of three obvious alternatives, what are they doing on a national rules committee?

cheers,
Michael

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General Discussion / Re: Suspension travel limit - which bikes?
« on: June 03, 2015, 06:36:41 am »
You would logically measure the arcuate distance as the 7". That is the motion range through which the wheel is being controlled.  The same should apply for the rear.

I know, but I figured mentioning that when it was not one of the methods that appear in the rule book would have been stirring the pot a bit much.  :)  It would also be more difficult to measure at the track. 

Also, changes in rake angle will give a different vertical wheel travel with a telefork even though the swept travel hasn't changed.

Some rules give the impression that not all possible scenarios were carefully considered.  But in many, if not most, cases it is probably more important to pick one method, beat all the bugs out of that particular method, and then stick firmly to it.

While that may not eliminate all possible chances for one bike to have a slight advantage (or disadvantage) depending on variations in design of the suspension, at least everyone knows what is expected of them so there are no surprises when they get to tech inspection.

cheers,
Michael

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General Discussion / Re: Suspension travel limit - which bikes?
« on: June 02, 2015, 12:50:09 pm »
Several weeks ago I enquired of the VMX committee of AHRMA (and the silence is deafening) how to measure the travel on a leading link fork (LLF).  Teles are measured along the tubes, but that 7" of travel at an angle gives a smaller amount of vertical wheel travel. 

Do LLFs get measured 7" along the chord from full bump to full droop (somewhat like a telefork) or do you measure 7" of vertical travel as with a rear swing arm suspension?

Beats me.  I guess the tech committee doesn't know either.  Either way would be fine if I knew which one was preferred.

cheers,
Michael

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General Discussion / Re: Suspension travel limit - which bikes?
« on: June 02, 2015, 02:22:00 am »
If it is of any use as a reference you can download the 2015 AHRMA rulebook here:

http://www.ahrma.org/ahrma_pdfs/Z-2015/Forms/15_Handbook_web.pdf

VMX suspension rules start on page 69 and mentions
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the rear suspension is fully compressed by the examiner with the rider aboard to compress any rubber bumpers . . . Due to the use of non-standard or different types rubber bumpers, this check may be overridden by the tech inspector’s discretion. . . .Forward-mounted or laydown shock mounts will be closely scrutinized and checked for travel, with three-fourths of the rubber bumper counted as shaft travel.

PVMX suspension tech is on page 80 and appears to be pretty much the same wording other than the allowable travel.
 
Different bump stops will have different compressed lengths so it seems like you'd want to fully compress them to arrive at the true travel available.  Old Girlings etc seem to have pretty hard and incompressable bump stops compared to modern dampers which are designed to give controlled action and are not just there to prevent metal/metal contact at full bump.

I can see how the provision to count 3/4 of the bump stop as available travel could be a reasonable rule of thumb to apply, but it would have to be understood that it may not be as accurate as using the fully-compressed length.  But doesn't whatever method is chosen need to be something that can be applied at the track without a major disassembling of bikes/dampers?

HTH,
Michael

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Bike Talk / Re: Restoration Project Knowledge
« on: June 01, 2015, 03:27:40 am »
Do NOT buy batteries or tires until the bike is completely ready to ride.  I've had so many new batteries die, or new tires get old and hard, because I bought them when I was sure I'd have the project running "real soon now".

cheers,
Michael

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Bike Talk / Re: Early Alloy Tank Identity Help
« on: May 31, 2015, 02:42:48 am »


I saved this photo of a Cheney tank off of eBay a while back.  It has some similar features.

cheers,
Michael

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