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Marque Remarks => Suzuki => Topic started by: crs-and-rms on October 28, 2007, 03:44:15 pm

Title: trick rm bits
Post by: crs-and-rms on October 28, 2007, 03:44:15 pm
any one got ant rm 250 a,b,c2 or rm125 c, n,t trick buts they dont want  :)
Title: Re: trick rm bits
Post by: LWC82PE on October 28, 2007, 07:56:57 pm
no, but there was a FMF head i tryed hard to get the other week. just missed it. what sort of things were you thinking of?
Title: Re: trick rm bits
Post by: LWC82PE on October 28, 2007, 08:51:47 pm
here are some photos i found

(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-6/1192012/Copyofmotofox125.jpg)

(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-6/1192012/Copyofticket%20072.jpg)

(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-6/1192012/000000367.jpg)

(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-6/1192012/RM.jpg)
Title: Re: trick rm bits
Post by: LWC82PE on October 28, 2007, 08:59:30 pm
now i saw this a few weeks ago no bidders. maybe will fit RM 125, as someone said its not for YZ. as long as the bolt holes line up you can machine/modify the chamber if needed

http://cgi.ebay.com/Shinobi-water-cooled-head-Webco-FMF-DG-AHRMA-YZ125_W0QQitemZ280162024831QQihZ018QQcategoryZ43810QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Title: Re: trick rm bits
Post by: crs-and-rms on October 29, 2007, 10:33:20 pm
nice pics would like a alloy swingarm for my rm 77 250  and webco head  or dg head.for the 79/80 125 would like webco head or dg head
Title: Re: trick rm bits
Post by: LWC82PE on October 30, 2007, 07:41:32 pm
keep looking on ebay. the RM 125 DG heads come up fairly often
Title: Re: trick rm bits
Post by: Freakshow on October 30, 2007, 09:40:39 pm
What the............  what and awesome looking swingarm in that last pic. hell even if its a shitter idea, its looks crazy factory style.  i llllike it !
Title: Re: trick rm bits
Post by: LWC82PE on October 31, 2007, 06:31:19 pm
that last bike is one that Scott Stegar (vintage factory) built. it is a replica of a top USA riders bike. i cant remember whos though. ive got one of those rare Simons magneto covers.
Title: Re: trick rm bits
Post by: oldfart on October 31, 2007, 06:33:33 pm
feaky
         Poor old C2 arm couldn't handle the weight of those oversize shocks  :D hes taken it over a jump and bent the arm , then welded a gusset in place so it LOOKS TRICK  ;)
Title: Re: trick rm bits
Post by: Doc on October 31, 2007, 07:52:39 pm
for the life of me I agree with Oldfart..it does look like the stock arm with a slight kink  :D trick as all showsa but eh..can't help first visual impressions  ::) I do love those FMF porky heads though and it's a C..hmmmm..I want I want!!  :P there's actually a reasonable 125C on egay at present listed as an 80 model..looks like she's pretty original too and it's fitted with a powerband!! 8)
Title: Re: trick rm bits
Post by: crs-and-rms on October 31, 2007, 11:09:31 pm
id have any of those bikes , ive been watching the 125 c thats on evil bay to will bid on it when its close to finshing time looks quite good
Title: Re: trick rm bits
Post by: crs-and-rms on November 09, 2007, 08:56:29 pm
got a dg head today thanks again to the donor who shall not be named any other parts out there ? as i still want others
Title: Re: trick rm bits
Post by: LWC82PE on November 09, 2007, 09:03:17 pm
wow you got one that easy :o
Title: Re: trick rm bits
Post by: crs-and-rms on November 09, 2007, 09:11:57 pm
i did pay for it lol would have been nice to get it free ive never had that much luck
Title: Re: trick rm bits
Post by: LWC82PE on November 11, 2007, 11:04:03 am
DG RM head

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/AHRMA-VINTAGE-SUZUKI-RM125M-DG-CYLINDER-HEAD_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ35595QQihZ017QQitemZ270185266326QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW
Title: Re: trick rm bits
Post by: cyclegod on January 13, 2008, 11:14:13 pm
Heres one I found...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/RM125-DG-head-RM-125-1978-1977-77-78-fox-ahrma-evo-evo_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ34284QQihZ010QQitemZ200191601651QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW
Title: Re: trick rm bits
Post by: LWC82PE on January 14, 2008, 08:19:53 pm
yeah saw that one. theres a lot of that kinda stuff comming up on ebay lately
Title: Re: trick rm bits
Post by: LWC82PE on January 20, 2008, 12:00:50 pm
couple DG heads here

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Suzuki-DG-nos-Head-mugen-ahrma_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ34284QQihZ007QQitemZ170186615900QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW
Title: Re: trick rm bits
Post by: crs-and-rms on January 20, 2008, 01:37:34 pm
thanks LWC3077 i will be watching this one
Title: Re: trick rm bits
Post by: firko on January 20, 2008, 01:48:34 pm
What's the score with these DG heads? They weigh heaps more than a stocker, look awful and offer minimal at best performance gains but the price goes through the roof nearly every time one goes on eBay. I'd understand the bling perspective if they didn't look so out of place on an engine, especially Suzukis.
Title: Re: trick rm bits
Post by: cyclegod on January 20, 2008, 01:53:12 pm
What's the score with these DG heads? They weigh heaps more than a stocker, look awful and offer minimal at best performance gains but the price goes through the roof nearly every time one goes on eBay. I'd understand the bling perspective if they didn't look so out of place on an engine, especially Suzukis.

I know that the DG heads used on RD350's and 400 get their squish bands remachined and are very popular with classic drag racers, maybe someone is doing that with the dirt bike heads. MY MX250 Webco head has a more modern squish design compared to the stock head too.
Title: Re: trick rm bits
Post by: crs-and-rms on January 20, 2008, 01:53:39 pm
id rather a webco head i have one for  my 250 b but they are hard to find
Title: Re: trick rm bits
Post by: LWC82PE on January 20, 2008, 02:18:26 pm
same here, the Webco ones are real hard to get. the DG theroetically has much better cooling due to the larger thicker fins and more surface area. i know they are heavy! DG got their act together with these in the 80's and actually started machining quish bands. I also found out a little while ago they made them for RM 500's and CR 480's. i bet no one has one on those bikes :)
Title: Re: trick rm bits
Post by: Doc on January 20, 2008, 02:21:22 pm
yup..I agree, most DG heads look awful on post 78 Suzuki's, like a pumpkin on a pimple.. FMF porcupine or radial fin as the pick of the bunch for appearances. From the used ones I've seen they didn't detonate as much as the DG, Ocelot or Webco.
Title: Re: trick rm bits
Post by: LWC82PE on January 20, 2008, 02:25:18 pm
i reckon one of the reasons they had detination was because they had higher compression ratios but owners never used really hi ocatne fuel like they should of.
Title: Re: trick rm bits
Post by: firko on January 20, 2008, 03:35:09 pm
When I visited Vintage Iron in California back in the early 90's He had at least a couple of hundred NOS DG heads, some undrilled and unmachined. I remember him telling me at the time that they were crap but the bling punters just loved the gold anodizing. I've used Webco heads for years and I'm using a rare ACK head in my RT1 engine right now. I actually prefer to weld and remachine my stockk head to suit my own or my porting guys ideas on squish design. My Maico square barrel has an 81 400 style combustion chamber. It's interesting that nobody ever made aftermarket heads and stuff for Maicos. It tells me that the factory got it right.
Title: Re: trick rm bits
Post by: LWC82PE on January 20, 2008, 03:55:21 pm
so i wonder where all those heads are now? everyones gonna be emailing them now.
Title: Re: trick rm bits
Post by: Lozza on January 20, 2008, 06:17:35 pm
The extrusion is just an anodised heatsink, the quiessent head shape isn't the best for stopping dets. Worst thing is most of them have an angled plug making any sort of machining fix a complete pain in the arse. Apparently Don and Gary bought miles of that extrusion.
Title: Re: trick rm bits
Post by: LWC82PE on January 21, 2008, 10:40:20 pm
so if they made so many why are they hard to get. you dont see heaps of people with them.

and so its just an industrial heat sink cut to length and machined to suit? i always thought they were from the same mould and just cut to shape but apparently there were 2 types one had a certain amount of fins and the other had a few more fins. im surprised no one has been reproducing them and making them with better combustion chambers if they are that simple to make. think of how many you could sell on ebay for a couple $100 a piece ;D
Title: Re: trick rm bits
Post by: BETRIC on January 22, 2008, 01:27:05 pm
I found a near new DG head and S/H stock bore YZ125X barrel for $15 at the Cessnock swap meet last year, I was looking in the right place, at the right time, the old guy I brought the head & barrel from did not have clue what he had, had to keep my jaw from hitting the ground when he said $15 :o, also was given another DG head for a late air cooled YZ80 a few weeks ago that a friend had lying around in his shed, it was no use to him as he has Suzuki's, it was given to him years ago.
Title: Re: trick rm bits
Post by: Lozza on January 22, 2008, 05:07:34 pm
You got ripped off paying $15 and your mate is obviously a VERY smart bloke;D
Title: Re: trick rm bits
Post by: BETRIC on January 22, 2008, 05:31:20 pm
I payed $15 for the barrel, the DG head was chucked in for free ???
Title: Re: trick rm bits
Post by: Doc on January 22, 2008, 07:46:37 pm
Loz the thing is..it doesn't really matter if they are the biggest scam of the past quarter century..the fact is right now they are hot property and very desirable to a lot of people recreating the era. A trick head has always been a trick head and something many people wanted regardless of the actual facts or any massive power gain misconceptions  :) $15 for a barrel and a DG head thrown in!!..an absolute bargain!!!
Title: Re: trick rm bits
Post by: gator on January 22, 2008, 08:01:02 pm
How much do they pay for DG HEAD's in oz for RM250 n or t mdls
Title: Re: trick rm bits
Post by: LWC82PE on January 22, 2008, 08:04:04 pm
i dont think they ever made them for RM 250 N or T. most likely is a modfied PE 175 head.
Title: Re: trick rm bits
Post by: Lozza on January 22, 2008, 08:38:18 pm
Yep and people actualy stay up and watch Big Brother and buy Justin Timberlake CD's ??? ??? ???However ebay bidders constantly catch gold fever when one comes up, and realisticly the silly money would be far more cost effective if they went to a riding school. A fair price then Betric. ;D
BTW
I met a fellow who had a weathered black "Betric Racing" jersey, he reckoned it was from some back in the day  race team that was sponsored by a private hospital of all things.Is that you????
Title: Re: trick rm bits
Post by: LWC82PE on January 22, 2008, 08:40:33 pm
im looking for a Webco 250 suzuki head if anyone has one :)
Title: Re: trick rm bits
Post by: VMX Andrew on January 22, 2008, 09:29:23 pm
I found a near new DG head and S/H stock bore YZ125X barrel for $15 at the Cessnock swap meet last year, I was looking in the right place, at the right time, the old guy I brought the head & barrel from did not have clue what he had, had to keep my jaw from hitting the ground when he said $15 :o, also was given another DG head for a late air cooled YZ80 a few weeks ago that a friend had lying around in his shed, it was no use to him as he has Suzuki's, it was given to him years ago.
  hey betric...did you see that brand new suzuki RM250A tank at cessnock swap meet last year ....
Title: Re: trick rm bits
Post by: BETRIC on January 23, 2008, 05:37:01 am
Lozza yes I rode for the team in 1981 on YZ's, the owner of the team had a family run private hospital for old people in the inner suburbs of Sydney plus a wheat farm up at Tamworth with MX and SHORT CIRCUT tracks that we practise on ;D, the owner passed away a few years ago I think with alzimers ???

I saw that RM tank a few years before at the Bathust swap meet it was much cheaper, should have brought it then.