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Clubroom => General Discussion => Topic started by: mainline on July 26, 2009, 04:51:09 pm
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just picked up an evs neck brace and was wondering whether those of you who have them wear them with conventional body armour or the pressure suit style?
I've got a 661 pressure suit and I think it may be a bit of a hassle getting it and the neck brace on together.
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I think if your preasure suit inflated with your neck brace on it might pop your head off your shoulders...... :o
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I think if your preasure suit inflated with your neck brace on it might pop your head off your shoulders...... :o
:D :D... i have see guys wearing normal body armour with them, i heard the pressure suit is a hassle with that brace. I have the alpinestars carbon fibre brace and have had the leatt version, and neither of them worked with my pressure suit. I decided to buy an evs under armour and some elbow guards( the alpinestars elbow guards feel good, even after 150k trail ride). I think that was the best solution, and it still works well with a camel back
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Maniac,
Do you still have your AS brace and do you want to sell it
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I use with conventional armour. It fits in quite well for me.
On a sad note, legend from the eighties Bryan Flemming had a serious accident last weekend. I was told by another forum member that he was practicing for an upcoming event at Coolum when he missed a gear on a jump on his crf, landing on his head basically. Looks like he is a quadriplegic. Bryan was at CD6 racing around quite fast on the cr250rz. If you haven't got a brace, this should be your wake up call.
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Maniac,
Do you still have your AS brace and do you want to sell it
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Gday mate, i sold the leatt and kept the AS brace.. I was very lucky not to be in a wheel chair or a pine box from a crash while trail riding last year, so a brace is an absolute must in my eyes. I figure if they make something that eliminates some of the risk factor... use one. Thats very sad to hear about the misfortunes of The rider mentioned above, fingers crossed things work out for him :-\
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Have you tried them on together champ ?? If you can get it to work I will be buying one of those as well. A reasonable compromise I think. certainly a lot better than what I've got at the moment.
Hopefully someone here can offer some good info
Give it a go. Hilly was "breaking in" one of those at CD6. It was giving him the shits at the start, but he seemed to be getting used to it by the end.
What you say Hilly ???
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I have a Dainese pressure suit and a Leatt brace and they "can" be made to work together. Yes it is a slight hassle, but so was wearing a helmet and gloves back in the day!
The back part of the Leatt I slide under the spine protector but above the netting and the front zipper only does up about 2/3rds of the way. I'm looking at stitching on a small velcro tab at the 2/3rds position to keep the zip in that possie, until Dainese releases the Leatt compatible version - and I can afford the trade up!
I've tried the Alpine Stars brace, but hated the feel of it (hard, scratchy foam around the neck opening).
Basically, the longer your neck, the more comfy the brace feels - "front row" types probably need to look at something else, but then again, they don't have a neck anyway! :P
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I'm keen to hear how the EVS brace stacks up. I am thinking of buying one of those - I currently wear a neck collar but the brace is a much better option. I wear a Dainese body armour and I reckon the brace will fit under that just fine...
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I have quite a few guys i ride with that wear the evs brace and i havent heard a complaint yet.. anything is better than nothing.
I had the 661 pressure suit and the leatt brace didnt go well together for me personally. The pressure suits seem to differ a little, so does everyones body shape. If anyone is looking to get a brace, it would be worth trying all of them on with your armour of choice and see how you go. I loved the leatt, but prefered the alpinestar carbon brace after trying one. Your right TEE BONE, the foam on the alpinstar is hard and wouldn't be good on skin, but i dont think any foam should be rubbing on your skin at any point? I wear mine over the jersey like everyone else seems too and find it more comfortable and lighter than the leatt was.
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I wear the EVS with normal body armour (Acerbis), it only took 1 ride to get use to it .Wouldnt ride without it now, remember fellas, its not IF you fall off , its WHEN you fall off. Sad to hear about Flying Brian Flemming, I hope he recovers OK. John.
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G`day i have sold a few EVS neck braces with no complants.will sell to forum members for 265.00 + post normally retail for 300.00 ph or pm robin 07 3821 6777
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G`day i have sold a few EVS neck braces with no complants.will sell to forum members for 265.00 + post normally retail for 300.00 ph or pm robin 07 3821 6777
there u go boys! couldnt be any easier... and cheaper!
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I've been wearing a Leatt with a conventional chest protector. I found that the shoulder cups interfered with my ability to raise my hands over my head so I replaced them with leather straps and have been running this setup for the last 2 1/2 years. Now I have to find another yellow chest preotector that will work with 090's cool retro DG Suzuki Jerseys.
(http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i60/clpotter/leatt016.jpg)
(http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i60/clpotter/IMG_3834-1.jpg)
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Just bought an EVS brace on the strengh of Davey Crockets post :)I will try it out this weekend and report back :)
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On a sad note, legend from the eighties Bryan Flemming had a serious accident last weekend.
I haven't been following this post as I didn't think any of it related to me, an almost 60 year old semi retired fat guy who's never worn any protection except JT shoulder pads when I had to (dirt track regs). Something made me pop in here for a look and I'm shattered to read about 'Fleas' accident. He was the hottest rider at CD6, especially on Drunks Hill. I had a short chat to him and found him a nice bloke.
With the tragic death of vintage racer Tom Boyd in the USA last week as the result of spinal injuries sustained in a vintage race and now Bryans awful injuries, I'll now be having a good old rethink on wearing armour and neck protection. Even though I'm only going to have a few leisurely dirt track rides next season, the deck is equally as hard whether youre leading the race or coming last. I come from a generation of old school racers, many of who find body armour a gen X thing, we didn't need armour back in the 70's so why do we need it now? I think Flea and poor Tom Boyd have now given a poignant answer to that question.
We're all a lot older, a lot less fit than during our wonder years and most of all, have people who love and depend on us to remain fit and able. As soon as I'm down to fighting weight I'm getting fitted for armour and a Leatts brace (or similar).
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Danny "Magoo" Chandler can't tell enough people about them as well.
When I hurt my neck it wasn't from a high speed 'get-off'. Just laid the front end down, my head went into a rut and my body kept going.......
Got to try a Leatt brace a few years ago when I met a guy at Bacchus Marsh who had just had the hospital brace removed from his head (you could see where they'd drilled his skull) and he was wishing to hell he'd had one on when he went down. He nearly begged me to try a few laps with the brace and after about five laps I forgot I had it on.
Been wearing a Leatt ever since wouldn't click a bike into gear without one on now.....
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Hey Firko Bryan Flemming and 'Flea' are 2 different people, i think Flea was an enduro rider. It is very sad about Bryan, such a good rider and nice guy. He was pumped about racing the Nats and had just built 2 bikes and was out practicing when he was hurt. We can only hope that with his positive attitude and determination that he recovers from this injury.
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Just bought an EVS brace on the strengh of Davey Crockets post :)I will try it out this weekend and report back :)
...and I just bought a Leatt Adventure brace.
I put the wind up myself when I pulled the muscles at the top of my neck last year (same crash that broke my leg) - I've never been a 'balls-to-the-wall, she'll be right rider', but it has slowed me down. If nothing else, I hope that the Leatt will be clip-on courage for the meek.
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whats the difference between the adventurer and club Leatts, they only seem to make a medium as well, will these fit say a larger bloke
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Differences? A bit of weight and the more expensive ones are rebuildable (you can buy and replace parts).
Word is that safety is absolutely identical - they both felt as stiff as one-another, and I couldn't pick any dimesnional or structural differences.
Adventure is also grey, rather than the better looking (IMHO) black.
I figured that if I bust my Adventure, then its probably saved me from something a lot worse than having to throw away a non-servicable $500 neck brace - so I kept the extra $300 in my pocket.
Medium fits me. I actually need to space it in a bit so that its less loose (front to back) on my chest.
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You can buy replacement parts for the club but not for the adventure i have been told and the club has a bit more adjustability. The medium is the adult brace there is no large.
I went out and bought a Leatt club last week after the injuries i've seen lately.
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I have both the Club and Adventure model Leatt's. The only difference is the Club has adjustable front and rear table heights. This adjustment only comes into play if you have a very short neck or are very tall, over 6'-2", which sometimes causes the tall rider's helmet to bump the rear table while riding standing up and bent over in the attack position. 90% of the people that fit in a Club will fit in the Adventure so there really isn't reason to spend the extra money if you don't have to.
I'm not a big fan of the EVS race collar. It is better than nothing but it is very flimsy when compared to the Leatt and now that the Leatt Adventure is available, there is no real cost advantage. Vitually no riders here in the states are using the EVS. 99% are running a Leatt. The Aplinestars brace is nice but the very high price tag means you rarely see anyone using it.
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Hey Firko Bryan Flemming and 'Flea' are 2 different people, i think Flea was an enduro rider
Sorry I got confused...It was Bryan I was talking to and it's no less a tragedy. Yesterday I tried a young relatives Leatt Club brace to see how it feels and it's not as intrusive as I thought it'd be. Of course I haven't ridden with one yet but my mind's made up. I won't race without one.
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If any one wants to look at the evs neck brace i will have one to show + other bits and will have spares ie levers,handle bars tubes plugs
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meant to add will have at the nats
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Rossco, me old evil acountant mate...
I have a medium Leatt and you have seen the stump of flesh I call a neck I've been sporting so you'll be right for size. They even send you XXL hinges for free if you ask nice and pay the postage. In the end I didnt need them, the largest hinges that came with the brace were fine.
After 15 minutes of riding I have never given it a second thought. It fit easily under my AXO and Acerbis armour - after you fiigure out the drill getting it all on in order so you dont choke yourself.
... at 84 cents on the dollar its a good time to spend the money.
Warmest regards,
Evil Rudy
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Back on subject the Leatt will fit most pressure suits that have the articulated back. It just slides in nicely under the top plate.
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I had the slowest crash I can remember.
Moving down a rock face at a walking pace on my modern, my front wheel slipped off into a gully & I speared head first into a rock wall.
I stirred up a spinal fracture I didn't even know I had.
That was a year ago & my back just now feels good enough to get back into it.
I have bought a 661 pressure suit but need a suitable neck brace.
Wear all the protective gear you can afford.
I wish I still had my overalls from back in the day. Never got a scratch wearing them.
AJ
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I got a EVS brace for CD6 and after a bit of setup ,there is adjusting wedges in the Neck roll . I'm happy with the support .I use a fieldsheer body suit ,its got a big spine protector . If you fit the EVS first and body suit over it . It fits well the problem is getting a jersey on over the neck . I'm going to put a short zip in one . But i'm happy with it
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Hey Hilly, if you look at the Acerbis retro gear the jersey comes with a big zip out section made especially for neckbraces. If your going to the nats you can see mine (#88). Cheers John.
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hey Hilly do you wear the straps/harness that come with the Neck Brace ?
I've been given some Fox body armour and with in on over the brace it holds everything in place. With the 661 suit I have to use the harness they supply to hold the neckbrace in-situ