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Clubroom => Tech Talk => Topic started by: Marc.com on July 13, 2009, 07:02:40 pm

Title: electric Motocross
Post by: Marc.com on July 13, 2009, 07:02:40 pm

http://www.wired.com/autopia/2009/06/zero-mx/

Its official the internal combustion engine is dead, electric MX bike from Zero engineering makes 23 hp but 50 ft/lbs of torque, which is closing in on most bikes below 600cc for torque.

No pistons and rings to change, just give her a wash and plug her into the wall.

Title: Re: electric Motocross
Post by: BAHNZY on July 13, 2009, 07:16:57 pm

Bring on the 1st entrepreneur that bags himself a fleet of these bikes, finds a big arse factory on the south side of Melbourne and builds a MX track inside, then opens the whole thing up to time share/leasing or something similar. How good would it be to have a WI/WO arrangement where you could go after work for a two hour session twice a week to hone your craft. Just like going to the gym only different. ;D

Title: Re: electric Motocross
Post by: oldfart on July 13, 2009, 07:38:25 pm

The combustion engine is very much alive my friend  ;D  2 hours riding and wait 2 hours to charge thru a power point that is power by  ???

Title: Re: electric Motocross
Post by: BAHNZY on July 13, 2009, 07:41:57 pm

SOLAR ;)

Title: Re: electric Motocross
Post by: firko on July 13, 2009, 07:46:39 pm

I love it. It's only a matter of time before battery technology improves and then.........watch the oil companies buy up the technology and bury it like they've been doing for the last half century.

Title: Re: electric Motocross
Post by: Marc.com on July 13, 2009, 11:05:59 pm

I was sitting having coffee the other morning and one of Yamaha's new generation electric scooters rocked up, looked the part and took off faster than you can say 'variable rheostat'.

Title: Re: electric Motocross
Post by: ba-02-xr on July 14, 2009, 04:17:09 pm

At a MX what class would it run, lites?

Title: Re: electric Motocross
Post by: Marc.com on July 14, 2009, 05:42:32 pm

Quote from: ba-02-xr on July 14, 2009, 04:17:09 pm

At a MX what class would it run, lites?

;D no given limited battery life probably flat track.

the only problem I can see with good clean racing on even powered reliable machinery is its freaking boring....viva VMX

Title: Re: electric Motocross
Post by: caps 999 on July 20, 2009, 11:01:02 pm

sorry but a bike without noise is like a lion without a roar its just not the same  :(

Title: Re: electric Motocross
Post by: Hoony on July 21, 2009, 05:33:37 am

Sacrilege !!!

but with the greenies pulling votes these days it will most probably happen.

i better stock up on Flux Capacitors

Title: Re: electric Motocross
Post by: Lozza on July 21, 2009, 07:06:05 am

A good by product of electric racing will be the track ower paying for the 'fuel'.

Title: Re: electric Motocross
Post by: Marc.com on July 21, 2009, 07:14:40 am

Looks like the real deal, at 50 ftlbs torque bet you can fill a whole landfill of used tyres and used batteries in no time.

(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg71/marcFX_photo/zeromx_sized.jpg)

Title: Re: electric Motocross
Post by: Graeme M on July 21, 2009, 09:47:38 am

Imagine how good it'd go in the bush? All that torque right from idle. And it's all single speed right? Now THAT's the way to go trailriding, and no noise to piss people off. How about a hybrid trials bike/MTB for a new recreational vehicle - MTB riding without the pedalling? I'm thinking this will be a real revolution - what a way to get more people on bikes. I'm saving already.

Title: Re: electric Motocross
Post by: Marc.com on July 21, 2009, 10:13:04 am

Quote from: Graeme M on July 21, 2009, 09:47:38 am

Imagine how good it'd go in the bush? All that torque right from idle.

too true, though I am imagining being an hour away from the car when the battery light starts winking.  ;D

still give it time, Japan already has a lot of bicycles that charge the battery on the downhills and pedal assist for you going up.

Title: Re: electric Motocross
Post by: maicomc490t on July 21, 2009, 10:53:13 am

Maybe the classes could be classified by wattage, lol!

Has it's place in the universe I guess - NEVER again could arseholes shut us down because of NOISE. They would then complain of something else - eg dust!

Never again would you have petrol leak from a loose filler and burn your goolies - instead it would be battery gel !!!

Title: Re: electric Motocross
Post by: Lozza on July 21, 2009, 11:55:04 am

You wouldn't want DELL batteries :o

Title: Re: electric Motocross
Post by: PEZBerq on July 26, 2009, 01:40:38 pm

Oath Lozza...damn right you wouldnt.  What a disgrace they are   >:( >:( >:(.  1 year old and my Mrs laptop battery is cactus.  Fark

Title: Re: electric Motocross
Post by: oldskool on August 06, 2009, 08:52:10 am

i watched a show on cable tv discovery chanel where they put one of these electric bikes up against a yzf 250 but even to watch it got a bit boring without the sound.glad to say the noiser bike came out on top.it maybe for some but without the noise its just not the same.even to watch the electric bike seemed a lot slower even though it wasnt that much slower.thanx gary

Title: Re: electric Motocross
Post by: charliew on August 06, 2009, 03:11:02 pm

Here is a CRF250R converted to electric.

http://evdrive.com/Emoto_project/moto_project.html (http://evdrive.com/Emoto_project/moto_project.html)

And some video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQQch7chbco (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQQch7chbco)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3zJoMqE7sw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3zJoMqE7sw)

 Estimated power output is 57 HP. Seems to go OK.

Title: Re: electric Motocross
Post by: EML on August 06, 2009, 07:32:44 pm

I have a team of techs in China working on the best type of pegs to put in the spokes- will send on the results after I tie up the market. More seriously, think how many batteries would fit in the wasp, two or three 'motors' like that three engined Maico and a rear tyre off a jumbo jet-wouldn't see us for dust!!