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Clubroom => Competition => Topic started by: Iain Cameron on May 21, 2018, 06:02:49 pm
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Any more news yet gents ? I will have to book the Spirit of Tasmania soon to get a place .
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What more do you need to know? It's all go, championship classes as per the MoMS with the finer details being organised. Book your spot on the boat.
Cheers,
K
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Ok. What's the go with the Ararat track? Will it be left as is? Will it be modified and if so, how so?
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I believe the track will be adjusted appropriately to suit the VMX classes. The early word was to bypass ( with grass chicane sections) the 3 big table top jumps for classes up to pre'75 but have pre'78 & Evolution use all jumps, I'm unsure if or how this has changed since the first track inspection. Having said that, the track is very similar to Port Pirie track which was used for the classics last year, where the whole track & all jumps were used for all classes. There were no complaints that I know of & everyone seemed to have a whole bunch of fun. VCM is planning some sort of event at the track as a prelude to the National title event, so there will be an opportunity to get first hand experience before the titles. Some people hate flat paddocks while others hate jumps, impossible to please everyone or probably anyone these days. At the end of the day we all have to ride the same track plus mother nature has the potential to turn the best laid out/prepared track to the worst in an instant. In all reality it will be your mind that defeats you long before any actual track does.
K
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No truer word spoken bigk , having been an organiser in the past you cant please everyone all the time in fact I found that most bitched but never helped or offered any pre race day track preparation help . Iain .
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Bump 8) 8)
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Bump again . Booked the Spirit last night $925 for two and ute return with cabin , not a bad price Ive paid more in prime holiday time . Its been 7 years since Ive ridden in competition last being Crystal Brook in 2011 . So Gents the mobile chicane #54 is me . I will be entering Pre 70 250 , Pre 75 250 and 50 to 60 1975 250 . Bring it on . Iain
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Like :) :) 8-)
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Bump .
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The Supp Regs and Entry Forms are up now at the MA Vic site.. I see that the first two classes are inclusive of the $150.. but if you have more than 2 bikes.. then an additional $10 per class... in addition then, the age group racing , which traditionally has been a "freebie" they are charging for.. and the age groups are all capacities in together.. pity if you have like John Kemp has .. a current title in all 3 capacities within his age group..then he can only ride one bike at a time..
Anyway.. see you guys in Sept alongside the prison.. yee hah..
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https://drive.google.com/file/d/15AGzcYIaNa2deq6C-AWKvsZhJY0iFDYz/view
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vusF8ipt-dUQeDKMwt1jDJjwjn9zVKx3/view
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Entry logged to day paid online posted off on Monday . #54 is back after 7 years I cant wait , Boat is booked entry is in . I suppose I better see if the bikes are still running . pre70 250 , pre75 250 and pre75 age 50 to 59 250 .
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140 or so photos on Facebook (Victorian Classic management) from a meeting they had at the same track as where the nats are being held, on the weekend. The weather was ordinary but everyone interested should take a look.
K
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https://www.facebook.com/groups/1001304063273377/permalink/2001521926584914/
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Great photo's cant remember when I last rode in rain . looks like a nicely groomed track surface .
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So how are the entries going for this meeting?
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There are a bunch of very enthusiastic VMX stalwarts behind this event and from a conversation last week I hear strong entries already received.
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Good to hear I hope it's a success down there, I would have gone this year but Ill be in Canada ridding.
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That’s great news. With the inclusion of Evolution Class to this meeting it gives everybody another class to ride.
Well done organisers
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We have about 15 riders from this side of the island.. a full container of 26 bikes will be making it's way across mid-Sept..plus a couple of intrepid souls driving over.. all the best..
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Entries are coming in steadily but only 21 days till entries close on Sept 5th for this event. Don't leave it till the last minute, get them in the mail by Sept 2nd at the latest unless you intend using express post (do it today though).
Long range weather forecast couldn't be better, 15-18 degrees, mostly sunny over the 3 days.
K
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https://drive.google.com/file/d/1D59SMdZ4uJp1VTdFe2M9m0Q5FWEM-2YH/view
https://www.ma.org.au/#event=undefined
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Bump
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How's the numbers guys . Im all packed one of the bikes is ready the other I will have finished this week end >
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Anybody able to take a bike from Mt Martha (mornington Pen) to Ararat for me, not racing, just an enduro bike I'm trying to buy that will be taken back to WA
cheers
Barry
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108 entries, with all but a very few classes making the numbers required for championship status. The weather forecast is looking perfect, so all go for a very successful event.
K
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Anyone with room to bring a roller down from Newcastle to The Nats ?
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108 entries, with all but a very few classes making the numbers required for championship status. The weather forecast is looking perfect, so all go for a very successful event.
K
Which classes don’t make champ status?
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At this stage it's only the 2 x 30-39 age groups & side cars. There is not a women's class due to no entries. All others are good to go for Aus titles.
K
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At this stage it's only the 2 x 30-39 age groups & side cars. There is not a women's class due to no entries. All others are good to go for Aus titles.
K
That is great.
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Hi guys,
I’m out at the Ararat track this weekend as my boys are racing the Western Regions being held here. The club has presented us with a very well prepared track and facilities, for all those that have entered I’m positive you will be glad you did as this track will be awesome to race on. I look forward to watching the Aussies at this place, see you in 2 weeks. Peter.
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Just want to say good luck to all those competing at the Nationals, Im in bloody Perth but wishing I was there and with such a good entry even more so.
Safe racing to all
DT211
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And a very good meeting you did miss.
Just got back to Sydney from the best, most stress free race meeting I’ve ever been to. The Classic Scrambling Club did a fantastic job running this event. They ran 50, yes 50 four lap races on the Saturday and another 25 on Sunday. A huge effort considering a water truck was used for keeping the dust at bay. Perfect track all day Saturday and even better on Sunday. Constant emails updating the entrants on rider lists, race number availability, advice and final instructions were never a problem for Frank DeRose.
Well done Frank and his small crew, it was great.
We took 8 bikes to see 5 of them back in the trailer very early Saturday and some great results with the other 3.
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Highway patrol just out of Beaufort didn't slow you up too much then.
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Haha Lucky they weren’t the fun police. I would have been jailed
I removed the number plate ( reason for pullover) as we hit it with a bike unloading and it was about to fall off. I show it to the officer and tell him the situation and I don’t want it to fly off and injure anybody. He says good thinking and enquires about the bikes and where we’ve been. I tell him our results and where at and he says well done, on your way and have a safe trip. Lovely blokes
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Good one. Everyone slows to 40 k's now in Vic when passing an emergency vehicle with lights on so we get a good look.
I was pulled up for 20k's over on the New England on the way to last years State of Origin. He saw the bikes in the back and asked where I was off to. Told me I had about 5 hours to go and he would review the booking. Haven't heard anything.
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i missed the 60 k sign going into Parkes and the cop didnt gaf and hit me up for 495 big ones and 4 points...
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Just a small error with the name of the club hosting the event.
All credit for the work leading up to the weekend & everything that went into the event, goes to Scrambling Victoria Inc. and the Ararat MCC.
An excellent three days of riding & racing.
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Apologies. I should have checked but it was 3am after driving from the track back to Sydney.
Anybody hosting a race meeting would benefit from talking to these fellas. Fantastic event
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A big thank you to the guys who put together Scrambling Victoria Inc. just to run this event, and to everyone from the Ararat MCC and others who did such a fantastic job of making this a stress free and super fun meeting. There are a lot of unsung heroes out there supplying bikes ( Phil Scott 16 bikes!!!!!, ) and sponsorship keeping this title meeting alive for the rest of us to enjoy. It's great that next year is already announced at Harrisville in Qld on August 30/31, so we can plan our holidays now for the big drive north. Can't wait to do it all again.
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is there a list of winners??
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Yes. Every person there was a winner
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https://www.stawelltimes.com.au/story/5662870/motocross-nationals-rev-into-ararat-photos/
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A usual, few of the YSS equipped boys did very well and brought home some well deserved trophies . Apparently a well run meeting . Congratulations to the winners and the finishers and the tireless workers behind the scene.
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Great write up, thx for the link
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I 'm assuming that all were happy with the event.. usually much more "traffic" after a Nats.. this and that.. I'll say that the "combining" of the pre 75 age groups to be all capacities..instead of being 125 , 250 and open class..I understand that with the inclusion of Evo there is less time on the day ..and congrats to the Ararat guys.. 50 races on the Saturday is well done..but to have the age group races as just one.. not good IMHO.. Happy to discuss
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I 'm assuming that all were happy with the event.. usually much more "traffic" after a Nats.. this and that.. I'll say that the "combining" of the pre 75 age groups to be all capacities..instead of being 125 , 250 and open class..I understand that with the inclusion of Evo there is less time on the day ..and congrats to the Ararat guys.. 50 races on the Saturday is well done..but to have the age group races as just one.. not good IMHO.. Happy to discuss
Another 36 races for capacity age racing. Same for Evo.
That’s 72 more races. So you want 147 races. Not gonna happen
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Is there any other photos of the Ararat Event, besides the ones allready posted on this site and Youtube.
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Yep on:
www.marcusthomson.dphoto.com
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Perhaps the post '78 classes could be moved ( back) to the Post Classic event.. seeing the Evo classes at an event that has Pre '60.. just doesn't seem to fit.. the Evo classes have more in common with the Post Classic bikes anyway..maybe then there would be enough "interest" to actually hold that event.. given it has fallen over in recent years.. that would then free up some time at the Classic champs.. and it could go back to having capacities within the age groups ..just a thought..
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How could an aircooled, twin shock, drum braked bike not be applicable !!!!! As the old guys that raced Pre 60's bikes die, of course participants at 'classic' are going to reduce.
I think Post Classic events should drop Evo, and keep it classic only.
My opinion, everyone has one, not always going to be the same as yours.
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Perhaps the post '78 classes could be moved ( back) to the Post Classic event.. seeing the Evo classes at an event that has Pre '60.. just doesn't seem to fit.. the Evo classes have more in common with the Post Classic bikes anyway..maybe then there would be enough "interest" to actually hold that event.. given it has fallen over in recent years.. that would then free up some time at the Classic champs.. and it could go back to having capacities within the age groups ..just a thought..
There were a total of 58 riders entered in the 125, 250, open Evo classes. Some rode two Evo capacity classes and other categories as well.
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Evolution is an extremely popular class & belongs in the classic titles. Without evolution the riders numbers would have been ordinary at best. It's up to the hosting clubs as to how they run the age groups & it's been done successfully both ways in years past. The hosting club decided to do all powers age groups in this instance, in attempt to award the largest number of Australian titles they possibly could. Of all the classes at the event, only 4 did not reach the required competitor numbers to attain title status. This would have been different had there been age group capacity classes. I'm an average rider & rode a 350cc bike in evolution 50-59 all powers, finished 6th overall out of 24. I went past bigger capacity bikes and am sure their were smaller capacity bikes ahead of me. I also rode a 400cc bike in pre'75 50-59 and had a couple of good battles with a guy on a Honda CR125M. Engine size doesn't really matter & if you got a place, you know you earned it. It's impossible to keep everyone happy, perhaps BMCC will adopt the age group/capacity class way for 2019.
K
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" K " I noticed you know you came 6th,
is the complete results available anywhere so those that made up the numbers can see where they finished up?
cheers
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Evolution class has to stay in the Classic era. It was a master stroke including it there. It has guaranteed the survival of that era. I would not be surprised one bit if they get 200 entrants for the 2019 Classic Nats.
He’ll of a lot more difference between a Evo ( Classic) bike to a Pre 85 ( post Classic ) than there is from a Pre 78 bike to a Evo bike. A couple of inches taller being the only difference.
In 2014 at the Port Augusta Nats two guys on Pre 78 125 bikes scored second and third fastest lap times over the entire weekend. Was no electronic timing these Nats but I’m pretty sure that another two guys in Pre 78 125 would have podiumed in any of the Evo 250/500 races. People aren’t faster because they have more horsepower. Most would be slower because of it.
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I have a copy of the final results Noel & they have been posted on some FB pages, however I've had trouble trying to post them myself. Shoot me your email address & I can forward it to you.
K
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I have put all of the results into excel but don't know how to load into this forum. If you have FB access, I can put it onto the OzVMX page
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That would be appreciated
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#1 Run classic and post classic national championships as one.
#2 Run signon,scrutineering, (practise % class's) on the Thursday - demographically we all have to travel.(known fact)
#3 delete class's that havent run 8 bikes for the last 8 years.(until better stats come forward in entries)
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#1- Run Classic / Post Classic together
#2- Get rid of stand alone age racing ( score separately in capacity races )
Sign on, scrutineering and practice on Friday
Classic Saturday - 33/39 races
Post Classic Sunday - 27 races
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2019 Classic Nats
9/10/11 August
Queensland ( Harrisville SEQ )
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2019 Classic Nats
9/10/11 August
Queensland ( Harrisville SEQ )
Has this been changed? The original advertising was listed as early September
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2019 Classic Nats
9/10/11 August
Queensland ( Harrisville SEQ )
Has this been changed? The original advertising was listed as early September
Yes it has been moved to the weekend after the Conondale Classic 2,3&4 August. so that means anyone who wants to do both only has fours days in between. Mon, Tues, Wed and Thursday. The club apparently asked MA to change it.
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“ The club apparently asked MA to change it “
1- BMCC asked MA to bring it forward three weeks from their original advertised date?
2- BMCC asked MA to put it back on their original advertised date?
3- Whoever is running Conondale Classic asked MA to change the date?
Because it makes no sense at all to run two big VMX events less than one week apart within two hours drive of each other.
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“ The club apparently asked MA to change it “
1- BMCC asked MA to bring it forward three weeks from their original advertised date?
2- BMCC asked MA to put it back on their original advertised date?
3- Whoever is running Conondale Classic asked MA to change the date?
Because it makes no sense at all to run two big VMX events less than one week apart within two hours drive of each other.
The Australian Championship has precedents