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Marque Remarks => British (BSA, Greeves, Triumph etc) => Topic started by: grouty on March 09, 2018, 10:33:21 am

Title: New (old) Project
Post by: grouty on March 09, 2018, 10:33:21 am: This all started some 10 years ago.
Who can guess what this is going to be .....
(except Alison ..... )

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Title: Re: New (old) Project
Post by: Mick D on March 09, 2018, 12:53:23 pm: Top shock mounts rearward,
Chain adjustment at s/arm pivot,
Oil tank in backbone 4/stroke,
Engine cradle mounts looks like it would house a BSA engine?
Long backbone,

Could it be a very early BSA/CCM?
Title: Re: New (old) Project
Post by: Rosco86 on March 09, 2018, 03:26:41 pm: Looks like a 1973 CCM frame to me Grouty!
Title: Re: New (old) Project
Post by: geoff on March 09, 2018, 05:08:17 pm: One word Clewsstroka!
Title: Re: New (old) Project
Post by: grouty on March 09, 2018, 06:52:45 pm: Prize goes to Rosco :) Geoff, close, but not that close. There are slight differences between the Stroka frames and the early CCM ones.
Title: Re: New (old) Project
Post by: grouty on March 09, 2018, 06:58:36 pm: (https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/jgfM4CO4WrbnifSJy4pHzN1WvAtTkhLfR--UlbvL2T_Vy-5Y5X2rNk-hi_F5FBzsj7eQN7iYIb55IC3qGHealNtCPRF0WTgWILcS_qg0R0eZPNuZAsRAWnVXj10Eed77GTZII44RFRzbvRDL7P-D9ZOYYvdCkkap2Frtb6UB26EQPIoua-vM7OYl26ia4roHuBtjqYk6Qk0Or4BCQcFTgYe9e01IxfOYo4fNNNsgSJl2e28mjNbYRjW00RAfL4QCcvKnbbfhyUtB_DXKUvUiqfYvlatHIG2lx-OHxWYy_s7fdneU3IzJWhNOmi4oBv4OWHkuryMKZ08hG_SR2nK4kx_BmQ3H0C9e3WF_zGqXy0OeOFutKkdIeePOmkPZswok5Hb3jkOSbB178sC0qsQ14_tjKDQRBixD0Jf-NlR5ssc9MWR3Isi0jbRFXg6sk9xVpMSOHSSXD-3NMxJPGC7OvU7HpB08XAKNL-jk_5vUXKS5ruZJhEClpqWtNE3pvH5_aalvJkMS8J8C4SaVkGxGBGClm-5ppZ7-dPKz1Syip_o92XmoQ6kdJwW32XKJ8KY7KmZtSfnJvn74ogno9eaYjjniUbjnt3vEGGjSLJIrjPg--rpV4BAL9j1J3oI5_2rLWYtZgfwuq0Q8vyWGHob3YO1co7dupEc=w640-h480-no)

Frame done.
Engine parts ready for surgery.
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Title: Re: New (old) Project
Post by: Butcher on March 09, 2018, 08:26:51 pm: who did the frame?
Title: Re: New (old) Project
Post by: grouty on March 09, 2018, 09:30:53 pm: The frame is by Mark Cook at PES here in the UK.
I wanted to preserve my original 73 Bob Wright bike so I hatched a plan to build an exact replica. I took my original frame to Mark who copied it. He did vow he would never make a std 73 frame again ! It was a right PITA. Mark's usual 73 frames are of the later 73 "SP" type.
Title: Re: New (old) Project
Post by: grouty on March 09, 2018, 09:33:51 pm: The start of the billet crank ....

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Title: Re: New (old) Project
Post by: Rosco86 on March 09, 2018, 11:25:37 pm: Going to be a beaut Grouty. I’m starting on a replica of the BSA speedway bike, Nigel Boocock tested. Have a CCM motor that a mate used in our Junior MX sidecars back in the day. 500cc or under. He won many Victorian State titles on it and placed in the Aus titles. The gearbox always blew so he carved it off and put 4 studs to run an A10 gearbox. So the motor is very close to how the speedway motor looked. Going to put it in a jawa frame until I can get my hands on a Rod North frame.
Title: Re: New (old) Project
Post by: grouty on March 10, 2018, 12:54:08 am: Can't wait to see the pictures of your build Rosco. Don't be shy with the camera ;)
Title: Re: New (old) Project
Post by: grouty on March 10, 2018, 04:50:30 am: Crank assembly done and ready to be fitted.

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Title: Re: New (old) Project
Post by: 80-85 husky on March 10, 2018, 12:55:55 pm: will be a change from the auto ol mate ;D
Title: Re: New (old) Project
Post by: VMX247 on March 10, 2018, 11:27:44 pm: This is way better than...... mine ;D
Title: Re: New (old) Project
Post by: Butcher on March 11, 2018, 08:17:12 pm: does anyone paint the CCM frames in a resto, or is that a criminal act?
Title: Re: New (old) Project
Post by: grouty on March 11, 2018, 09:25:47 pm: I think the factory pained some of Vic Eastwoods frames in about 75 / 76. Mainly because he kept wanting them altered ! The very last production run of frames in the early 80's were also painted, red I think, to save money.

Other than that .... yep, it's a criminal act :D
Title: Re: New (old) Project
Post by: grouty on March 12, 2018, 02:56:10 am: The engine took a while, but so worth it in the end.
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..... and the magic blue button :-)

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Title: Re: New (old) Project
Post by: grouty on March 15, 2018, 08:31:15 am: The dry build started before I had the engine finished.

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The fork sliders are genuine BSA B50 items as per the original. We honed them out about 8 thou so we could use a pair of 35mm tubes. These were from an old set of Betor forks. Re hard chromed and ground to size. The fork drains were ground off, welded and re-drilled at the rear of the slider as per original. All the external lugs were ground off with the exception of the brake anchor. Then many hours of fettling and polishing. The internals are Betor damper rods and springs. The fork yokes are a billet part made to look like they are from a casting with the "CCM" logo on the top raised.
Title: Re: New (old) Project
Post by: 80-85 husky on March 15, 2018, 11:15:25 am: dont ever take it near dirt..EVER! take it straight to the Guggenheim....its a work of art
Title: Re: New (old) Project
Post by: grouty on March 15, 2018, 09:32:20 pm: Sorry to disappoint ..... it WILL be getting dirty on Easter Sunday :)
I had better hurry up and bring this thread up to date.

Couldn't resist a family photo -
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Title: Re: New (old) Project
Post by: grouty on March 15, 2018, 09:44:18 pm: With the engine in the frame, it was just a case of laser aligning the chain run and carefully measuring for the mounting spacers and rear brackets.

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Once I was happy with that, the exhaust was fabricated by Colin Hickie (Hickie Racing) here in the UK. I wanted it done in 18 swg steel and chromed as per the original. It would have been far cheaper to have had it in stainless, but that was just wrong.

The picture is before they were sent for chroming -
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...... and now back from chrome
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Title: Re: New (old) Project
Post by: Rosco86 on March 15, 2018, 11:51:28 pm: Hi Grouty, what type of ignition are you running?
Title: Re: New (old) Project
Post by: grouty on March 16, 2018, 12:57:55 am: Rosco, I am running the new Interspan Clubman system. I am using the one I bought last year for the original bike. I wouldn't use any other ignition on a CCM :)
Title: Re: New (old) Project
Post by: grouty on March 16, 2018, 03:43:11 am: Once I was happy with the dry build, it was time to take it all apart and do it for real.
The frame was made by Mark 10 years ago, so I hoped it had not gone rusty inside. As it turned out the only rust was a very light surface dusting and a bit of mill scale. Most likely always been there.
My favorite rust remover (you would never catch me drinking the crap) .....

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Title: Re: New (old) Project
Post by: 80-85 husky on March 16, 2018, 08:30:12 am: the black asprin :D
Title: Re: New (old) Project
Post by: grouty on March 16, 2018, 11:05:04 am: I filled the frame to the top with said "rust remover". Just for good measure I gave it a good shake and listened for any hissing. Thankfully nothing. That's the frame pressure tested then ;D
I drained that, and re-filled with neat petrol. Gave this a good swilling, and repeated.
I mixed a very strong solution of petrol/Castrol R40 and continued to fill and drain.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/bpY3wqReTcQAiNQ4YYoLktt4XxYngKCElXEM_tdBorB6ABv7qugIoHxga3ZFlCk7SruIuKjfP1ayliuo2rgRUf1lqZyD8Td6YcZGqyFvT58Yf2F5btNlJuYnpnjaJkRn8W_qbBJAB1C-CgnnJliqjS7n6GKV3oh0oq-oiKe_h53kHJSl93V1A1GkwrjIS00VFjY_42Q375LdHxSpZqY0SwfLAnSYExbEe563ughW0y-BW3nUgtOHkPkWkX8hOjER0iNi9r3PTQxHEtt2vGVdhuWgpYlswQV9NAFQqI8Ezyjq5fKFfxBSYU4mGYx_XUXJOnLXhE2pWtzbSDoaniMmNN9x0MQK-m2MS5fn9UQbWpytDM3N0Fq1srlDbJBNxOejhuP2I9kiVZ6hwcXXEFv-0NO5D-cXanFwsbELSQ3y32tXFK3zXKK9udLHXjVn_0-ulonjBhZB6Fb2JPfAwbfgHEEFSWvZxi9Jpxu4Dvf1w-rR9eaZNhOjBq_kf_yATWYiaXwhW3F7Uc35bcH5lNB_U4d188bl4ra5cl_jBAVWU9uJB6n9gSTGmU5qyB_g0J2b61O3QzSfUZHobaWa02tEbc0TvQvor75WwYsDg5WosgvG6--De1Y6yabE5CLRHjEjCfCtlumf57nqTGS2yUCMP3kn_Nx2IK_4=w358-h637-no)

Each time pouring the mix through my "Mr Funnel" to clear any debris. This whole process went on every evening for a week. Usually until the fumes became too much !

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The first few fill and shake rotations went from this .....

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To a clear mix.
Not a job I would wish to repeat in a hurry !
Title: Re: New (old) Project
Post by: grouty on March 23, 2018, 03:01:53 am: Back wheel and swingarm in place ....
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/uggypP3q1UCXknoTx3jtm79tdTB2HTlQLfuCR4klDoNqFrd9Y24UdVXHgHvGEvqhAEelPrA80H6qdWPQily6d0Cmo8DDMlPG7ZG1Mr9-SOqrKwmti5YYMlUTZVWvAsVDM1NyJ2cAf-bGUuDMAEiBAS5YuxkgUakmdtwzDIUqoGIWdVwXBHn1VK0blRjjy4iw_kgcUR5V8HdeuZosQTyE58jF5Er2MoxXmXVQ-alWtoCra32y9oft2aezA7MtAxYxmvQbPfJOxQ98N1PBAmOxm9e-zMeQTYXSLyeZHtzLnfdnVINlujKLc9voaUeD_kxphu8gcwmmZC00qM1iH48QakfFW1chNVGcB7hhmWyUphSLjav8BUVQN00VnerKMzRqCvAzN2T65kTsWIN3DKSfba_BRHTAFqW76ta-_OuFsoI-F8wRI56QGMT8wPrPKNkSvyUET3b6aah7ejJt1hGtKQxwEG4zYz7YY6VBZaY9I6chbcp551ddRTjqQdR3b_evVGFthoJm0o8V9W-8WrdXuNMqxAC_qaZqFUXOn45cSsChd_r7XwgO-RAY06WspaJCun7UZt38c0CwaFeQGlEfk2_kBy2DZlueo7WDHnBJlU79wBruPfyLx3_dfx-X1pzPdY4SgxcPvFxKCBzJk-WJcVL-z_nO5-YD=w1008-h566-no)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/RYP0BoFmWv8nZ7IgiDLVXK6IAw3B95H9wJSC6PhVk5Ua3ZjJEhrsxan45OODGdrhOA21-YlXT7m1E5E98CJRj-ugS70Pu6lHg1e6-LLeX1GGiglkrr7mgAmv1bk00FBAndQI9sgHZOoUosL22_98hz1OJXoAjqFHParh9m5I7e8ggxNmkLYckf8KMdNI_608sjWBzMJONJRYFzGnmbiQOVKN6-DjG42x4kqXppwpzgtlCnXOE9xQU0uqH84fBOSuiJjHyiC8mscYsBk0JMPqaDYRBmUJS2gee_mj680p3wcKeMNcgg_40hkxHB-slL2H_7eBxlA03E5Mw3-pMM0JER-QcUFu-e-X7ft1_SH3troqZVmbIyaQ60vIGP2mWB5WqEesAklMQ9Bt_MFOOPdqDs2RuYXIzWWGdv0Sb1EMdws9kaUJpzUUjTqx12yDXPEO6YL1uD6EdPyUZANWD3I2Vs_vxlZMNVLF_4RhWc74azw7_pgt5kJElWqz-mcVnEmuFLRU72__UH0b0AewDP6IkOtliyJGxGbpiuTXlTWcd9NbT6QZpExT3U6Y6iZbwfQvOWZQuKiyeV4MYdbRaeoHFz4gHCS74MZZMqsspyXSsIxRsw0c4OF-xjStqXSmpGhifOgyosIn32944i5JoQmOEzgHJuZe6G23=w1008-h566-no)

Forks and yokes done. The handlebar clamps are just cheap Chinese rubbish for the moment.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/k5ydtYVAprzkVB03B1RiV4GNP0UfrUbtNHxmS4g6LEvTA60aB465WC2XC_LC9ZzHxPSDS_gncEYGsFG8b4-RVEtEd3_ltBKa6pf7V_1bK5FQ5ijGxQ9rPf2JyTB60rfkrBmWKsGvcGtfqpAELePfiK82qsbBm6RLKtGB2pMd--oBzbVf-QLmaCFGn30un2VBM66UpLnhsRMtxQPQwe3aB6MU3Wj_n7deib8rXvyRjkcWySONbr-yJ1wT4Ir3t99jRLyJWRNmrDp_-WgeiWJj5T9zVNKAPkWYQq52eiEU2Bs_e9fJKe2pxjYRRXrQzahf632-glMM_CozmQfprvbZjmlDbVv8aJ9J-e9t2aO4JNOoCDrOHNNPW_grrGbavP3yrRteKyip4kx8MAZSSig3xayZCzX1ohBDg5x3oZsPbB3JzJj-clHyR8MQYVyS3hz_YaBf4jxrxOVxtche-ehHhDLrujL1jOP_U7tBipJ8zfoOy7rpjo8BIik4cb9PHh8QoFfxkLTv68WLoBJcysa4GanpkUHmPDj57xrSZMGFlj2hSp_fnr_hSw9sB5me8f-NCMr_QgVIDd-2eThRaAP8A-D8H8rBko7-2VHZAmDGMrdIdAJ3QKKSAZCtE-Qibn3EI1shsmpwFhRg-vdZbSKxna4hBDR8LvEC=w318-h566-no)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/H2IMHpnnIrEqg-YtBYJY4JJ2QgwwYrf9--90WM_VQy5L80jGur7a9AIMQWIbEhx1jiU7NPhpF8emnKZMRQgUe1_G0WO1bXCK9kMODPdhT9Dvdw0kgfHrPFdvUJNFfsZYjxbPXSHksVjtCO5E7e8ht2AEJjN5kfExOmN9vauHPNNy-TEylEsboM3y2As7RgsEN0-fM5rl4-XZceckekBo-4JAKHQDSAcNi-PzBO3veXTEO1C5ssNf7EGpZEF8SMCakagLwQ3jDx7lHuGmfBg65Cu-g8OGSpu84ut0Z2VWZcQgf99cx_j7vbcOjfKtRJkwL_J7twIEsHTf182ag4KnhEc1AbUiOKafNshz7O3NvrE3pTynV5_eC6g3RjFzd3JEz9-QeCDAqgIDEJJdMfTEFWT_2v3PZt2FsrSKjpPJMBCHW4wxkohfsl98A9bW4ZMQI1cS6Z7NszG0ZKHQ8B6EU5sl1SqbQ8xtdUBRhiU_1MKNXnZU6eQbqnrOLV44NU7_UENlrmB52e9Xs7DQMBiUlUlmior4X9KsQzgs9Pmi302_eymkC39unvJDUfoVcRdIr7CO1fds1Nxm_8IoS56jdAnG9RBVSlU4c2H-8DooSLm-Upfh3koYRP_X7dFp6J-Qbke_08a-kIgpCGibub2BdX7TL7mP59Yk=w318-h566-no)
Title: Re: New (old) Project
Post by: grouty on March 23, 2018, 10:58:54 am: Front wheel fitted (not without a bit of head scratching !). All lines up perfectly now.
Air box was trimmed to fit. The clearance between airbox, frame and exhaust is just perfect.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/sAEdTMWiKl0nkgYhHcooSNSlf2uBWNk9mD4VcHkpf4hfGdJpk-L3Ay340uB1-eDymnsd9rw5WJMHoaJJOgL2Ao6iOEu6K3fxmVTfWwDbHnUuxk2vN7ssd4gEQIVhDf5DPqrEaeELGgwjEiada4itk5-rLWfI1xb4okzN_glEdrYpod8sQvPwFspW9lsd62_-PvWklFQtJPJiIIu_5KGZ6nBcYiqAAgGCP2hxIMVxj3uaAYrOl_b3JbTpmD6RSTC7Z5WdHo7wV2TkwrcWC5I_lINgiaV8KjlnWqN8BOrTs3QzT2mmhPcuxCVgZEWAzmL9C6hgKsN9SdRBj4LggPuuS_Kyf2o20UUdJSyP8j90nPBfuJGyXO5hHHTwEeROgQ2jltz-rcZ5oKR90n_xB8jo8kY4Ow4kJ8MWYf32MlqI8A5HADICFjW3q23I4_DDXabigZ2qNKLF_12YdPJ4yOrC2U6caPjLY7Ho3tQc54Ny3a_gEKHDFGPDLjtIrE0kBgTApo8BK1Na-4_1DNyWW76heNPtCOciTQ1gwdMf_DBOb9z8EYK7Ou4omsfXMsuOPsIcak-WJz84Zm9pj4iH8biWKKrkS1jc_8hcyyAcpzbOcBpkyCoJwhjOXjsh2i313bNOHAlZdj8xuHjGxj0seS-UxgyWL7FPyS3_=w1134-h637-no)

Anita at PES made me a beautiful pair of bar clamps so I could get rid of the Chinese rubbish.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/FpyTuewWV4Bgcd_LC4ogKhsGxps58RJJ1kDsnaFYY2fYZSpugPaJz2hLlPdbL_OHvBu6HQ07IENoFfspnaStQQWc_DplJSNQXiFF-Jva4qeh07zh3tF3gHWeza3OPBDB4fLBJqO1chcMjS30ZZC118Xr7BFR_xNRmEV0K2lte163tt7P9s6DIk_5dysqrUc8Tk_p3AgmNQm2dCuXYMrhxNuWnSdjFcLi31zVMqVVmCXnOKIvJW74nfEfOrLiZn_79HjOe2PUA2JbVJrI64cUDy04zut5q1zxWNPFnDkkif2fvKJYu4ZpjlkcfAeeOtqYlB7r-7Z1Iwtgt4wl-NrFL9HvX2hYK92JzIcLLdCgTJmbwSnvzDzuBI2KVuLpMgalUwRCGVp5xrucF4mDCfj-WIADusbCducL-iEZ2G4cH8WlubRbhAITQefuj1cCVxtQvGwIl_f9g4uZmz0wR-6-bJpNN0us9AzQaD7BLdkiUg8Qru98wPGFu6gYOSMFs2s26dsD5A9PFtPampONP4w60VQWOn3FgsKw1L4KYcuA5qM8azW05ElmdH46JwS1MkTefYzfQJCE596gVx72_PTMmrFzVdDzjNxkXOCeg5iOss6ibmmsVFFGOS560dTB4hkdwNIjWOl4AGq2mbfW0UIueVBKWk1O_Jiz=w1134-h637-no)

New Dellorto 34mm carb. The fitting is still a bit of a pig, but I have eventually got the knack of getting it in there !

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New GENUINE Gunner Gasser throttle and Magura levers.

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Title: Re: New (old) Project
Post by: 80-85 husky on March 23, 2018, 06:10:14 pm: i cant believe you could think about getting that dirty >:(
Title: Re: New (old) Project
Post by: grouty on March 23, 2018, 06:44:48 pm: Ha .... the other one almost looked that nice !
Farleigh Castle 2007 (it rained a bit !)

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Title: Re: New (old) Project
Post by: shelpi on March 24, 2018, 03:13:21 pm: sounds great but not getting the picture literaly, well done!
Title: Re: New (old) Project
Post by: grouty on March 25, 2018, 12:02:20 am: I can see a dirty CCM. Can anyone else see it ?
Title: Re: New (old) Project
Post by: djr on March 25, 2018, 12:26:33 am: Quote from: grouty on March 25, 2018, 12:02:20 am
I can see a dirty CCM. Can anyone else see it ?
sorry, cant see that one
can see all others
Title: Re: New (old) Project
Post by: grouty on March 25, 2018, 03:52:03 am: Ok ...... let's try again.

This is the original one at Farleigh Castle back in 2007.

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Title: Re: New (old) Project
Post by: 80-85 husky on March 25, 2018, 09:30:22 am: :o :o :o
Title: Re: New (old) Project
Post by: Butcher on March 25, 2018, 09:15:43 pm: what oil do you run in the engine/frame and chaincase?
Title: Re: New (old) Project
Post by: grouty on March 26, 2018, 09:43:59 am: I run R40 for all of it. I change the oils after every race meeting.
It's the only oil I have found that will stand the heat. (not wishing to start another oil debate !)
Title: Re: New (old) Project
Post by: grouty on March 26, 2018, 09:51:30 am: A bit of beating the crap out of a piece of aluminium ......

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Title: Re: New (old) Project
Post by: Hoony on March 26, 2018, 04:48:44 pm: Quote from: grouty on March 26, 2018, 09:43:59 am
I run R40 for all of it. I change the oils after every race meeting.
It's the only oil I have found that will stand the heat. (not wishing to start another oil debate !)

is that castrol castor oil ?
i used it in my weslake 500 speedway. it can "pit" engine internals if sitting for time.
Title: Re: New (old) Project
Post by: geoff on March 26, 2018, 05:05:03 pm: "is that castrol castor oil ?
i used it in my weslake 500 speedway. it can "pit" engine internals if sitting for time."

I have used castor based R40 for many years and provided its changed on a regular basis gives no trouble. I think you might find that methanol fuel is the problem being gyroscopic and causes water formation and rust if the oil is left over a long period.
I only use AVGAS these days but always flushed the fuel tank with petrol when using methanol and dropped the oil after each meeting.
Title: Re: New (old) Project
Post by: 80-85 husky on March 26, 2018, 05:50:13 pm: hygroscopic is term you want ...gyroscopic has a "gearloose" .....(joke for baby boomers) 8)
Title: Re: New (old) Project
Post by: geoff on March 26, 2018, 10:14:21 pm: It's my dyslexic digit, it should be as you know hydroscopic. It happens with arthritic fingers and single digit keyboard skills
Title: Re: New (old) Project
Post by: grouty on March 26, 2018, 11:54:40 pm: Well .... other than bolting the sump plate back on, it's done.
I have had a good 15 minute ride around a friends field, and all seems fine. I have changed all the oils and the spin on filter. No horrors found. I cut the filter open just to look in there too. Easter Sunday will be the first race meeting for it, so we'll see what happens. I intend to take it easy .... at first ;)

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Title: Re: New (old) Project
Post by: PEZBerq on March 27, 2018, 08:02:27 am: Looks lovely grouty. May I enquire what the sheet of newspaper on the floor is for?
Title: Re: New (old) Project
Post by: 80-85 husky on March 27, 2018, 09:22:16 am: std on all pommy bikes ;D
Title: Re: New (old) Project
Post by: Hoony on March 27, 2018, 07:19:13 pm: Quote from: 80-85 husky on March 27, 2018, 09:22:16 am
std on all pommy bikes ;D

yep the BSA cases are are a total loss system over time
Title: Re: New (old) Project
Post by: grouty on March 27, 2018, 08:35:13 pm: ;D ... ha !
The real answer is to catch the drips from the overflow tube after I have run it up.

..... and, no. It does not leak oil, neither does the original one. The only one I've had that leaked oil was the Matchless 500. They have the worlds best primary case seal ...... not :)
Title: Re: New (old) Project
Post by: huskibul on March 28, 2018, 08:46:33 am: Great pair of clews grouty well done ! would luv to hear the pair of them on song together - sweet music !! just wondering what sealant you used on cases especially centrecase (no gasket)- cheers
Title: Re: New (old) Project
Post by: grouty on March 28, 2018, 09:51:58 am: Just best quality silicone and very carefully matched cases. All courtesy of Mark and Anita at PES.
The chances of both of them running together at the moment is slim as I have pinched the Interspan box from the original. If I can afford another box, and persuade Fred to make it, then it may happen.
Title: Re: New (old) Project
Post by: bazza on March 28, 2018, 06:53:48 pm: good luck with Fred or his brother making one any time soon
Title: Re: New (old) Project
Post by: Hoony on March 28, 2018, 07:03:28 pm: Quote from: grouty on March 28, 2018, 09:51:58 am
Just best quality silicone and very carefully matched cases. All courtesy of Mark and Anita at PES.
The chances of both of them running together at the moment is slim as I have pinched the Interspan box from the original. If I can afford another box, and persuade Fred to make it, then it may happen.

whats an interspan magic box worth these days?
i had to buy one for my weslake 25 years ago and remember it being very expensive then.
Title: Re: New (old) Project
Post by: grouty on June 14, 2018, 01:34:49 am: Finally got to race the CCM on Sunday. Bloody perfect. Started 1st kick and didn't miss a beat all day.
Got some brilliant starts thanks to the bike, results are thanks to the rider ::) 6th - 7th - 6th
Had a huge stupid grin on my face all day.

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.... no ... the grey haired old man is not me .... they only ride Maico's ;)

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Title: Re: New (old) Project
Post by: bazza on June 14, 2018, 07:08:13 pm: Well done, bet the smile was huge. Did fred make an electric box or did you use your old one?
Title: Re: New (old) Project
Post by: evo550 on June 14, 2018, 07:28:58 pm: Quote from: Hoony on March 26, 2018, 04:48:44 pm
Quote from: grouty on March 26, 2018, 09:43:59 am
I run R40 for all of it. I change the oils after every race meeting.
It's the only oil I have found that will stand the heat. (not wishing to start another oil debate !)

is that castrol castor oil ?
i used it in my weslake 500 speedway. it can "pit" engine internals if sitting for time.

All the castor oils are hydroscopic, R30 (The 2 stroke oil) is quite bad for it.
Title: Re: New (old) Project
Post by: Butcher on June 14, 2018, 09:07:36 pm: sometimes the pommies just get it right.....
Title: Re: New (old) Project
Post by: grouty on June 15, 2018, 01:17:24 am: Quote from: bazza on June 14, 2018, 07:08:13 pm
Well done, bet the smile was huge. Did fred make an electric box or did you use your old one?

I have used the box from the original one. It was new about a year ago, so should be good for a while.
The only other thing I "borrowed" from the other one was the kick start. The cotter pin type CCM lever is an extinct species.
Title: Re: New (old) Project
Post by: Momus on June 15, 2018, 02:34:43 am: Quote from: grouty on June 15, 2018, 01:17:24 am
Quote from: bazza on June 14, 2018, 07:08:13 pm
Well done, bet the smile was huge. Did fred make an electric box or did you use your old one?

I have used the box from the original one. It was new about a year ago, so should be good for a while.
The only other thing I "borrowed" from the other one was the kick start. The cotter pin type CCM lever is an extinct species.

But at thrice the price of anything else @ comment #54
Title: Re: New (old) Project
Post by: shelpi on September 10, 2018, 05:20:24 pm: Well done
Title: Re: New (old) Project
Post by: 80-85 husky on September 10, 2018, 07:44:23 pm: saw one of these today in fact...
Title: Re: New (old) Project
Post by: grouty on September 11, 2018, 04:47:11 pm: Well, I hope you bought it then :)
Title: Re: New (old) Project
Post by: 80-85 husky on September 15, 2018, 10:10:13 am: owner had a firm grip on it...wasnt going anywhere >:(