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Marque Remarks => Spaniards (Bultaco, Ossa, Montesa etc) => Topic started by: TTezza on November 14, 2016, 08:16:58 pm

Title: Not VMX, Bultaco TSS long shot
Post by: TTezza on November 14, 2016, 08:16:58 pm
Hoping for a bit of luck, just picked up this TSS roller, it's all Bultaco. Would like to find a 360 or 250 Pursang, Bandito etc motor to drop in it.
 This is what I got

(https://s13.postimg.org/jfpvr78g7/image.jpg)

And this is how I'd like it to end up looking

(https://s11.postimg.org/n3kh477dv/image.jpg)

If anyone has something that might work and they would be interested in selling please message me, thanks for looking, Terry.
Ps, already thrown the front mudguard before anyone comments
Title: Re: Not VMX, Bultaco TSS long shot
Post by: Moto on November 14, 2016, 09:04:07 pm
Hi,
If it is a frame number 29xxx it is a very rare bike with less than fifty made if my memory is correct.
The correct engine is a 350 TSS which is based on the Bandito / Montadero engine(centre port 360 engine)
Australia got very few of these bikes,so this bike has a high value.Good find.
Title: Re: Not VMX, Bultaco TSS long shot
Post by: TTezza on November 14, 2016, 09:20:14 pm
Thanks Moto, Bandito motor would be pretty scarce as well, but will keep my fingers crossed
Title: Re: Not VMX, Bultaco TSS long shot
Post by: jimson on November 14, 2016, 09:31:32 pm
I'm pretty sure I saw one of these at macklyn motorcycles in Miranda back in the early 80s, I thought it was cool then & still do, great looking bike you've got there good luck with it. Jimson
Title: Re: Not VMX, Bultaco TSS long shot
Post by: Moto on November 14, 2016, 09:49:49 pm
Contact Bultaco parts Australia,I am sure that Peter could source you an engine eventually.
Title: Re: Not VMX, Bultaco TSS long shot
Post by: TTezza on November 14, 2016, 09:50:36 pm
Thanks Jimson & Moto
Title: Re: Not VMX, Bultaco TSS long shot
Post by: jimg1au on November 14, 2016, 10:48:44 pm
there is an early 250 motor on ebay but i am sure you know that
Title: Re: Not VMX, Bultaco TSS long shot
Post by: TTezza on November 14, 2016, 11:08:38 pm
Thanks Jim, seen it, had a hard life by the looks of it.  :(
Title: Re: Not VMX, Bultaco TSS long shot
Post by: Moto on November 15, 2016, 09:10:20 am
That is my engine on ebay,It is not what you want for that frame.
Title: Re: Not VMX, Bultaco TSS long shot
Post by: Mick D on November 15, 2016, 10:18:46 am
What an awesome find Tezza.
Moto's comments about the the Bandito motors brings back some memories.

I may have been about 10/11 when I had a double on the back of a Bandito, on the old straight line dump road.
Although I had just experienced the surge of a rotary valve Kawa Bushwacker,,, nothing could prepare me for the
brute acceleration of the big Bandito engine 8) Hooked on two strokes for life, I put a bandito brochure on the wall and
Stared at it for years.
I finally rocked up at Stormy Normie's with cash to buy one. Too late, too much time had passed.
So I caught the bus to Islington motorcycles and bought a new Maico of a guy called Terry S, instead.
So many memories 8) ;D

Cool find, good on you. 
 
Title: Re: Not VMX, Bultaco TSS long shot
Post by: TTezza on November 15, 2016, 05:37:11 pm
Thanks Mick and Moto   :)
Title: Re: Not VMX, Bultaco TSS long shot
Post by: TTezza on December 04, 2016, 07:10:28 pm
Still hoping there's a Pursang, Bandito, Montadero etc motor out there somewhere, meanwhile rubbing it hard hoping a genie appears  :)

(https://s12.postimg.org/x91mi5p6l/image.jpg)
Title: Re: Not VMX, Bultaco TSS long shot
Post by: Moto on December 04, 2016, 09:11:26 pm
Hi Tez,
    What do you plan on doing with the bike? There is a lot if work to do without the engine if you are doing a  resto.An engine will turn up eventually.Keep looking.





Title: Re: Not VMX, Bultaco TSS long shot
Post by: TTezza on December 04, 2016, 09:31:45 pm
Moto,
      Restore it, already picked up the correct fairing and inner guard (thanks Mick), got the paint, going to spray tank, seat, fairing etc while on hols in two weeks. When I get onto a motor I can weld in the mounts to suit then blast and powdercoat the frame, polish the alloy, new brakes, fork seals and tyres, do the shocks and then hopefully take it for a run, oh and also a smiths tacho would be good  :).  Sounds easy haha
 Also forgot pipe and controls, be nice whenever it's finished I'm hoping
 
Title: Re: Not VMX, Bultaco TSS long shot
Post by: matcho mick on December 05, 2016, 05:54:52 pm
so which way did the inner rear go?,taper up,or down Tezza  :P
Title: Re: Not VMX, Bultaco TSS long shot
Post by: TTezza on December 06, 2016, 12:04:06 am
Skinny at the top, fat at the bottom, just like you said ????
Title: Re: Not VMX, Bultaco TSS long shot
Post by: TTezza on December 19, 2016, 12:10:37 pm
Just found out it is a November 1967 model 41 water cooled 250 TSS. One for the bully brains trust. I have a set of mark 3 pursang cases, will mark 10 internals fit inside these cases??
Title: Re: Not VMX, Bultaco TSS long shot
Post by: Moto on December 19, 2016, 06:32:41 pm
No.
    Mk10 have a different size output shaft(bigger)and just about everything else is different.
Title: Re: Not VMX, Bultaco TSS long shot
Post by: TTezza on December 19, 2016, 06:59:11 pm
Thanks Moto, wanted the old numbers with new internals.
Title: Re: Not VMX, Bultaco TSS long shot
Post by: bultacopursang on December 27, 2016, 03:51:12 pm
Where are you located?
Title: Re: Not VMX, Bultaco TSS long shot
Post by: TTezza on December 27, 2016, 07:40:20 pm
Hi BP, Newcastle NSW, if you have anything that can help I'm happy to pay the freight etc.
Title: Re: Not VMX, Bultaco TSS long shot
Post by: shelpi on December 28, 2016, 10:23:58 am
Excellent, all the best on your quest
Title: Re: Not VMX, Bultaco TSS long shot
Post by: TTezza on December 31, 2016, 11:55:07 am
Just picked up a bottom end, radiator, temp gauge, coil, pipe and bits all new unused. Only need a watercooled 250 head and barrel and it's good to go. Getting a bit excited about this project now.

(https://s29.postimg.org/d40yn51yv/image.jpg)
Title: Re: Not VMX, Bultaco TSS long shot
Post by: Moto on December 31, 2016, 03:39:15 pm
Well done,that is a very rare motor,especially if it has the gearbox.There have been TSS parts on eBay lately.There is a guy in the USA that has a big collection of TSS's,Donald McCullough is his name,try some forums for his email.I had his email but it is not current.
Title: Re: Not VMX, Bultaco TSS long shot
Post by: TTezza on December 31, 2016, 04:15:48 pm
Moto,
      Thanks, have been talking with Don, nice bloke, lots of info. Bottom end is complete and never used (NOS), same as the radiator. Was very lucky to get onto it, 20 minutes away from home. Watercooled head and barrel will be the last bits to find, then I can build it up. Hopefully another bully saved. ????
Title: Re: Not VMX, Bultaco TSS long shot
Post by: shelpi on January 01, 2017, 12:18:44 pm
Good stuff,
Title: Re: Not VMX, Bultaco TSS long shot
Post by: farmer58za on March 21, 2017, 07:07:11 pm
PM sent
Regards
David

Hoping for a bit of luck, just picked up this TSS roller, it's all Bultaco. Would like to find a 360 or 250 Pursang, Bandito etc motor to drop in it.
 This is what I got

(https://s13.postimg.org/jfpvr78g7/image.jpg)

And this is how I'd like it to end up looking

(https://s11.postimg.org/n3kh477dv/image.jpg)

If anyone has something that might work and they would be interested in selling please message me, thanks for looking, Terry.
Ps, already thrown the front mudguard before anyone comments
Title: Re: Not VMX, Bultaco TSS long shot
Post by: Murph on March 22, 2017, 08:51:05 am
You could try Kevin Breedon in the UK.  He has been racing TSS's for years and I bet he could help with the parts you need.

http://www.kevinbreedonracing.co.uk/
Title: Re: Not VMX, Bultaco TSS long shot
Post by: TTezza on March 22, 2017, 06:03:46 pm
Thanks David, reply sent.

Thanks Murph, I will try Kevin and see if he can help, these watercooled parts seem to be a very rare item, only need a head and barrel to finish this bike.
Title: Re: Not VMX, Bultaco TSS long shot
Post by: 80-85 husky on March 22, 2017, 08:51:50 pm
water cooled bulty eh? any pics of one?
Title: Re: Not VMX, Bultaco TSS long shot
Post by: TTezza on March 22, 2017, 09:12:15 pm
(https://s2.postimg.org/b2dj3ui6x/image.jpg)

(https://s23.postimg.org/gcj8bop23/image.jpg)

If anyone is using a head and barrel for one of these as a doorstop I would be interested in talking with you  :)
Title: Re: Not VMX, Bultaco TSS long shot
Post by: 80-85 husky on March 23, 2017, 08:10:59 am
just as I thought, never seen one...cool!
Title: Re: Not VMX, Bultaco TSS long shot
Post by: matcho mick on March 23, 2017, 11:37:34 am
gotta love the spaniards,external gearchange centralising spring,monobloc with later GP's 501 floatbowl,can just see an oldani front hub,(rivetted spoke flange),surprise no sump on the tank either,got the ignition system sitting there instead,thermo cooling system = long warm ups,Richard M in sth oz uses a kettle element to preheat before race,maybe get in contact with him Tezza?,one of the bully mafia,John Imrie should have contacts, :P
Title: Re: Not VMX, Bultaco TSS long shot
Post by: TTezza on March 23, 2017, 08:44:18 pm
Mick,
      Thanks for your support and appreciation of the finer points of the Spanish machines, Spain is pretty close to Italy.....  :)

Been talking with John, going down for a visit after Easter to see him.
You will have to introduce me to Richard M.

Talking with Kevin Breedon in the UK (thanks Murph) he has directed me back to a contact in Spain. Wish I was getting frequent flyers for all the miles my emails are covering.
Title: Re: Not VMX, Bultaco TSS long shot
Post by: TTezza on March 23, 2017, 08:50:23 pm
Husky, another shot for you

(https://s24.postimg.org/luk8tirrp/image.jpg)
Title: Re: Not VMX, Bultaco TSS long shot
Post by: 80-85 husky on March 24, 2017, 07:44:49 pm
imagine 200+kms /hr on those spindly looking wheels :o
Title: Re: Not VMX, Bultaco TSS long shot
Post by: shelpi on March 26, 2017, 10:37:08 am
Excellent
Title: Re: Not VMX, Bultaco TSS long shot
Post by: TTezza on May 24, 2017, 07:01:17 pm
Guys FYI,
            Had a guy contact me through an American VMX site in response to an add I put in for a head and barrel for the TSS. Knew it was a scam but I thought I would share it with you. Asked him for photos and the engine number to make sure it was for the correct model. He tried hard.

(https://s4.postimg.org/mggjbpah9/image.jpg)

(https://s17.postimg.org/w3b5qmcjz/image.jpg)

(https://s28.postimg.org/fv4upczxp/image.jpg)

This one has the engine number, BSA C15T 748MOE, and a photo of his TSS. Love to know where he got the picture from?

(https://s16.postimg.org/mg57twidx/image.jpg)
Title: Re: Not VMX, Bultaco TSS long shot
Post by: TTezza on May 24, 2017, 07:03:59 pm
P.S: Still looking for a water cooled or air cooled TSS head and barrel  :)
Title: Re: Not VMX, Bultaco TSS long shot
Post by: bultacopursang on June 16, 2017, 09:40:41 pm
MeTTise head lol
Try ajr in spain
Title: Re: Not VMX, Bultaco TSS long shot
Post by: 80-85 husky on June 17, 2017, 08:24:00 am
see the trade me article..
Title: Re: Not VMX, Bultaco TSS long shot
Post by: TTezza on June 17, 2017, 04:17:22 pm
Thanks Husky, spoke with Ginger several months ago, he hasn't any parts to help me. Nice collection of Bultaco's racers he is selling, good time to win Lotto  :)
Title: Re: Not VMX, Bultaco TSS long shot
Post by: 80-85 husky on June 17, 2017, 06:44:54 pm
good time to win Lotto

absolutely ::)
Title: Re: Not VMX, Bultaco TSS long shot
Post by: TTezza on September 21, 2017, 07:26:16 pm
Got me a head and barrel, only taken 9 months, now the only thing missing is a top cover

(https://s26.postimg.org/x7mxo24tl/image.jpg)

(https://s26.postimg.org/5lk63dlgp/image.jpg)

Top cover looks like this
(https://s26.postimg.org/jj7e5spux/image.jpg)

If anyone finds one let me know ???? ???? ????
Title: Re: Not VMX, Bultaco TSS long shot
Post by: jimson on November 11, 2019, 08:10:19 pm
(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c315/jimson13566/20191109_122928_zpsbm8qdg5l.jpg) (http://s30.photobucket.com/user/jimson13566/media/20191109_122928_zpsbm8qdg5l.jpg.html)
I saw this at a tiddlers rally on the weekend and thought of this thread. jimson
Title: Re: Not VMX, Bultaco TSS long shot
Post by: matcho mick on November 14, 2019, 07:14:16 pm
bully factory metralla touring fairing  8)  :P