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Clubroom => General Discussion => Topic started by: micko on November 05, 2015, 10:01:59 pm
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These bikes are for sale in WA, any info on the history of these bikes.
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Hey Micko are they the A model or B model?
A is a twinshock
B is monoshock
regards Richo
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YZ A's
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As Ross says "A" twin shock
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BUY them!!!!!
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I have just completed buying a pair of B model monoshock 250 and 360 :-) Well happy !
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Pretty sure the 360 was a Vintage Iron resto that GE bought in the very early 90s.
No idea about the 250.
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Is there a name and phone number for the person who has them? Thanks
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Both in my shop...
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So where's the shop price or photos or are they not for sale (made of unoptainium) the A's are harder to find than B's and made closer to works bike than B's
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check out the other thread Brent.
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check out the other thread Brent.
I give up. Which other thread?
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yeah David - can't find it either - maybe it was FB but saw them both advertised just recently - maybe old age :)
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I smell a rat if they were for sale they would be advertised properly just checking the market not a good time to sell those rare bikes especially the 360 ??? but there might be a cashed up bogan (someone Campbell $$$)
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Haha, no rat. They are for sale and have been for sale for sometime just not advertised mainstream. I just wanted to know if anyone had some history or info on them as I am have made an offer on one of them and wanted to know more about them. It wasn't a general For Sale post ???? there not showroom original, and there not perfect there as GE last raced them the 360 is even painted Horrible yellow. And yes your right, there was a post on Facebook about them being for sale, how much he wanted for them,where they are and a phone number but as usually every EXPeRt came out of the woodwork with there opinions etc so it got taken down.
If my silly offer don't get accepted I will share all the info and photos next week.
Cheers
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Well even the dick head living under a rock knows the 360 is worth upwards of $6000 I have seen them asking $20000 in the USA for real mint ones so equals around $29000aus I don't think the seller is that naïve and wants to give them away otherwise Richard would of found them the same day ;)
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And all I was asking was did anyone know there history, how threads change haha. ????
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pic taken at Ravenswood vintage titles back in 1993 , geoffs yellow YZA in background and his CZ sidepiper , he also raced a 125. g
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For those who are interested I checked out the GE YZ360 the other day and got frame and engine numbers. The chassis is a YZ250A and the engine is a YZ360B.
I believe Ray Ryan became the guardian of these bikes and several others shipped to Perth (correct me if I am wrong, its just what I have been told) and the Yamaha WA state manager bought the 2 yamaha's, motor been sealed and not started since who knows.
I emailed Rick Doughty of Vintage Iron in the US, he tells me this was his own personal race bike in the early nineties and he it sold to GE shortly after as they were great friends.
As I am not buying it (I bought the 74 YZ250A) :) so I thought I would share the info with you all and hopefully it goes to someone that appreciates it as a race bike.
Below is the email reply from Rick Doughty.
Hi Mick,
That is the YZ360 that was previously mine before selling it to Geoff.
I let Geoff race that bike here in the US and he fell in love with it.
As I recall Geoff Ballard also raced it the same weekend and murdered the field of competitors.
It is a great bike.
You are correct that it is a 250 chassis with a ’75 360 motor. The only difference on the ’75 360 motor was the way the head fins were trimmed. Other than that, it is the same spec as a true ’74 YZ360 (which there was only 535 of worldwide)
Not sure what else I can tell you but I can assure that Geoff and I would both prefer to see it back on the track making people smile.
All the best,
Rick
On Nov 9, 2015, at 9:38 PM
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The bike is at Causeway Kawasaki in Perth WA and has been sitting there in the showroom next door for the last 3 months.
Contact Norm Larkin on 0402 684097 or the shop (08) 9362 3266
He's open to reasonable offers,
ps; it is the same one as in the photo posted by g465b. If anyone needs any photos I can send them to your email as I don't have photo bucket or I can send them to a photo bucket guru to post.
Cheers
Micko
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so if a YZB motor it has a YZA or aftermarket exhaust. Micko - did they say how much for this one?
cheers
Rossco
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Engine number says it's a 'B' motor, not sure about the pipe. I believe from one of Firko's post afew years ago the motor was built by Bill West ex factory mechanic in the U.S. Give Norm a ring about the price.
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Good find hope someone buys the 360 if you going to race it who cares if it is a b motor we need more people riding here in WA all looks pretty much original from what I can see put an A head on same bike almost get a lot of looks in the pits
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so if a YZB motor it has a YZA or aftermarket exhaust. Micko - did they say how much for this one?
cheers
Rossco
My understanding is that the A & B models share the same crank, cases & barrel so they are the same motor except for the engine number.
Therefore the 'A' pipe will work the same on either motor but the 'A' pipe would have needed to be used to fit the 'A' frame.
Also for more trivia, the 250 and 360 'A' chambers are very similar except the 360 has a slightly longer header
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The "360A" is a nice bike though without a 360A stamped frame and indeed the 360A motor it is not in fact a YZ 360A,rather a replica and as such is not as valuable or sought after as the original machine.Great replica however :-)
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I agree Richard - bit of a bitsa?
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Yes Rosco at least its all pre 75 YZ ;-)
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But a fantastic race bike ????
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Chassis a bit short for all that power.......the 250A are very twitchy with a much smaller engine.I was building the same bike as Eldridges a few years ago and canned it for the same reason.I had a 250A frame and 360B motor :-)
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The A had more light weight parts over the B. Reliability was better with the B with the beefier parts.
Shift drum and gears has more holes on the A.
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I been told the pipe is a Vintage Iron unit, the 250 has the same pipe.
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Shit Micko you have half a dozen old bikes already......you hve the bug haha ;-)
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Chassis a bit short for all that power.......the 250A are very twitchy with a much smaller engine.I was building the same bike as Eldridges a few years ago and canned it for the same reason.I had a 250A frame and 360B motor :-)
Am I missing something?
performance wise it would have been exactly the same as a 360 A
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I been told the pipe is a Vintage Iron unit, the 250 has the same pipe.
They look like standard Yamaha pipes to me.
Typically pressed halves from Japan
Also I haven't noticed the cable mount near the carby on any aftermarket pipes except my own
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Am I missing something?
This is where I'd like to point out my new-found maturity that allows me to not answer with phrases like "sex appeal", "IQ points" or "a running bike".
You're welcome.
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Yes I've been missing the sharp wit of the forum...
and still missing it 8)
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Indeed. I should stop holding myself back.
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no Nathan - don't go there - the new Nathan is preferable ;D ha ha ha!!!
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I ain't no expert that's why I post on here ???? a close up of the 250 pipe
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And another
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That's not a stock pipe.
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:)
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Yes that 250 pipe is aftermarket for sure.
The jury is still out on the 360 pipe though as it has a Yamaha look about it.
Do you have any closeups of it?