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Marketplace => eBay Finds => Topic started by: mainline on March 03, 2015, 07:04:12 pm
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Nice patina
http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/221705300305?_mwBanner=1
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nice rare and at current exchange rates about 23,600 oz dollars plus freight plus gst this end, shit.
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Nice looking bike but you just never know what you get with these "top shelf" examples of bikes from the past.
The presence of what looks like gasket goo oozing out around the cam shaft cover doesn't help, tells me that workmanship on assembly may have taken a back seat with this bike.
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agree with pmc57. for that many dollars you can build nice replica with brand new GMC frame+swing arm and your own choice of motor, wheels, forks etc.
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I wonder if that's a genuine Pro Fab swingarm? My Pro Fab HL had a different swingarm - axle plate kicked up and the shock mounts were about in the middle not at the end. maybe they changed the design in later runs? Or maybe that's a very early version? Certainly the ProTec 600 used the same style arm as mine did.
(http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm102/JILLYLANE1967/Hallman%20pro-fab%20Aberg%20Replica%202009%202010/protec500_2_lge1.jpg)
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I wonder if that's a genuine Pro Fab swingarm? My Pro Fab HL had a different swingarm - axle plate kicked up and the shock mounts were about in the middle not at the end. maybe they changed the design in later runs? Or maybe that's a very early version? Certainly the ProTec 600 used the same style arm as mine did.
(http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm102/JILLYLANE1967/Hallman%20pro-fab%20Aberg%20Replica%202009%202010/protec500_2_lge1.jpg)
I think the different swingarm was an option, the arm on your bike Graeme was probably the most common, it's the same as the one Aberg is on in the Profab brochure but the arm on the UK bike looks very much like the arm sitting loose in the Profab brochure.
The frame on the UK bike has all the indications of being a Profab frame
I would think a Profab frame in the UK is probably rare as would a NVT frame be in the States
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a393/gmcloa/GMC%20parts/Hallman-1C.jpg) (http://s15.photobucket.com/user/gmcloa/media/GMC%20parts/Hallman-1C.jpg.html)
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Some early HL's had laydown shocks like that one. MXA had pics of them back in the day
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The pic GMC posted is from the 79 Hallman catalogue
There certainly was not just one or 2 types of HL's. They varied depending on if it was an early or later version and the US ones were pretty much 'kit' bikes and probably no 2 would be the same.
This one would be 78ish
(https://hjvw0q.bn1302.livefilestore.com/y2pxSZxhsrscNMl6NP0NCILJaHliqJU_4vRhT7h3qUGo7YM6qoiWZsb3DhcSk4w9RMMmfWHuRc9kAcNn6RszuqkWx1p9hBXmKqALydvFSCXTssdhzGCsRlpiG3yDz30O8hj/HL0033.JPG?psid=1)
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(https://hjvw0q.bn1302.livefilestore.com/y2pxSZxhsrscNMl6NP0NCILJaHliqJU_4vRhT7h3qUGo7YM6qoiWZsb3DhcSk4w9RMMmfWHuRc9kAcNn6RszuqkWx1p9hBXmKqALydvFSCXTssdhzGCsRlpiG3yDz30O8hj/HL0033.JPG?psid=1)
How is the size of that back tyre ???
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Yeah probably 17 rim with a big 5.50 tyre. A few of the old catalogues i got rave on about how it was the hot new set up at the time.
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Yes the 17" rim was one of the extra's that the brochure recommended
BTW, it's the 77 brochure
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a393/gmcloa/GMC%20parts/Hallman-2C.jpg) (http://s15.photobucket.com/user/gmcloa/media/GMC%20parts/Hallman-2C.jpg.html)
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That is the same page as what is in the 79 catalogue i have. Nothing in 81 catalogue though as i guess they were old news then.
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BFUSOPOPOS. Just my opinion.
K
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BFUSOPOPOS. Just my opinion.
K
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Go on, Please explain . Are you trying to say you don't like HL500's ? :D
Personally I wouldn't mind one , they are the only 4 stroke I find interesting , plus they are rare & mostly handmade.
BUT I can see why some people don't like them - just like CCM's they were never a World beater & people ask silly money for them
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BFUSOPOPOS. Just my opinion.
K
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Go on, Please explain . Are you trying to say you don't like HL500's ? :D
Personally I wouldn't mind one , they are the only 4 stroke I find interesting , plus they are rare & mostly handmade.
BUT I can see why some people don't like them - just like CCM's they were never a World beater & people ask silly money for them
Couple of points
No I don't like them , I liked the original that Aberg raced but the jacked up abominations that were later models and the copies of those you see today you can keep ;)
The original was a world beater it won a GP leg with Aberg riding it .
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As much as I love the HL's as my handle suggests and I have a GMC framed example, I would be hunting a nice CCM for that money.
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https://sites.google.com/site/vmxwestaustralia/for-sale-1/bikes/ccm-580
give Graham a call!!lol
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Grahams bike is a good one - I have followed it once or twice and shall never be the same ;D
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I just love the way it sits down when he gives it a big handful and throws the contents of the corner at the bike behind!!
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Is this one of those 'what is a genuine HL discussions' as looks like the seller has some issue about the NVT bikes...... I don't think being an early laid down shock frame kit makes it any more special ( at least not 12000 squid special) than say a later NVT bike, which was actual complete bike. Plus it would look much more pukka in red and white not yellow.
So not my dream HL .... make mine the Pro Tec HL600 or Aberg's 3 valve head bike
(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg71/marcFX_photo/HL500_profab_750.jpg)
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Perhaps someone can enlighten me :-\. What's the deal with the insistence on the exhaust exiting on the left hand side of the bike? Everyone seems to go to a lot of trouble getting the exhaust to clear the front guard - why not just bring it out the right hand side? Is this purely an exercise in imitating the aesthetics of the original machine, or is there another reason, like fouling the carbie/airbox? I have a Husky frame and a TT motor (apologies to Big K) but wouldn't mind knowing why before I start.
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Do it your way Pete, gota love a Rebel!! ;) ;) ;) ;)
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Do it your way Pete, gota love a Rebel!! ;) ;) ;) ;)
The Pro Tec 600 has exhaust on the right side so you have the option of both versions without a drama... not sure why it is on the left as even on that side you have to fit the airbox in around it
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Do it your way Pete, gota love a Rebel!! ;) ;) ;) ;)
Good onya Mike, I'll do it ;DDo it your way Pete, gota love a Rebel!! ;) ;) ;) ;)
The Pro Tec 600 has exhaust on the right side so you have the option of both versions without a drama... not sure why it is on the left as even on that side you have to fit the airbox in around it
Thanks Marc, I guess I should have done some more research...
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There’s pro’s & con’s to the exhaust on either side.
Inlet on the motor is to the right so carby and airbox are more to the right.
Right hand side the pipe has to sit low to fit under the airbox and then turn upwards as early as possible to clear the tyre at full compression.
Left hand style (which Aberg used) pipe is able to sit higher at the rear as it doesn’t need to fit under the airbox so it exits around the shock higher giving more wheel clearance.
Left hand system has smaller muffler but has tailpipe behind the muffler which helps sound levels.
Right hand system has more room for conventional type muffler.
What ever floats your boat.
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a393/gmcloa/products/HL%20right%20hand%20exhaust%20side_zpsgnzy18mb.jpg) (http://s15.photobucket.com/user/gmcloa/media/products/HL%20right%20hand%20exhaust%20side_zpsgnzy18mb.jpg.html)
78 NVT (UK) models had left hand system
79 NVT (UK) models had right hand system
Early Profabs seemed to have left hand systems
Later Profabs seemed to have righthand systems
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Thanks for the detailed reply Geoff. I now understand the pros and cons of both, and have decided to build a low pipe ;D. Only joking, will probably go with the right hand pipe, or the left hand pipe or toss a coin ;)
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I would go with whatever way feels comfortable......NVT bike is to the right, GMC hangs to the left and has less bends in it ;)
Finally it is kit bike and that is the joy of it all that no two are the same and there is no real 'right' solution.
(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg71/marcFX_photo/1979-HL500-01_zps0b20db55.jpg)
(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg71/marcFX_photo/IMG_3451.jpg)
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Perhaps someone can enlighten me :-\. What's the deal with the insistence on the exhaust exiting on the left hand side of the bike? Everyone seems to go to a lot of trouble getting the exhaust to clear the front guard - why not just bring it out the right hand side? Is this purely an exercise in imitating the aesthetics of the original machine, or is there another reason, like fouling the carbie/airbox? I have a Husky frame and a TT motor (apologies to Big K) but wouldn't mind knowing why before I start.
Don't worry about BigK Pete. He'll eventually realise that those sewing machines he so fervently defends are much better with a big Jap thumper in the frame. Apart from offending Mick, I'm sure that whatever you build will be one very well put together machine.
Personally, I'd go with the right exit pipe simply because of the less bends needed.
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I would go with whatever way feels comfortable......NVT bike is to the right, GMC hangs to the left and has less bends in it ;)
Finally it is kit bike and that is the joy of it all that no two are the same and there is no real 'right' solution.
Thanks for digging those photos out Marc. You're right about no real right solution, it just had me wondering. Geoff's pipe looks so good, but the other one tucks in nicely as well.
Don't worry about BigK Pete. He'll eventually realise that those sewing machines he so fervently defends are much better with a big Jap thumper in the frame. Apart from offending Mick, I'm sure that whatever you build will be one very well put together machine.
Personally, I'd go with the right exit pipe simply because of the less bends needed.
Well Mark, I didn't break up a bike to get the frame, so hopefully BigK will take that into account ;D. I will probably go with the right hand side, a la B50. Might even graft an XL500 head on and go with a pipe each side ::)
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You have a fixation with pipes. I stopped short of saying fetish ;D
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You have a fixation with pipes. I stopped short of saying fetish ;D
Thanks Ted, it's only a fixation at the moment, but I'm getting worried...
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If it has a HL blender, who cares where the pipe goes!!! ;D ;D ;D
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Don't worry about BigK Pete. He'll eventually realise that those sewing machines he so fervently defends are much better with a big Jap thumper in the frame. Apart from offending Mick, I'm sure that whatever you build will be one very well put together machine.
Personally, I'd go with the right exit pipe simply because of the less bends needed.
Well Mark, I didn't break up a bike to get the frame, so hopefully BigK will take that into account ;D. I will probably go with the right hand side, a la B50. Might even graft an XL500 head on and go with a pipe each side ::)
A better idea than using a Yamaha motor would be to use a mighty Honda XR500 motor. Not only will it upset BigK even more, but you will have to change your username to HonHuski ;D ;D
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I just don't understand why anyone would want to make a Husky, fat, heavy & slow? Each to their own though. Some people like fat women, so I guess it's sort of normal.
K
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Personally, I'd go with the right exit pipe simply because of the less bends needed.
It's actually much the same number of bends for either side
3 x 90's + 3 x 45's
Vs
1 x 180 = 2 x 90's + 2 x 20's
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I just don't understand why anyone would want to make a Husky, fat, heavy & slow? Each to their own though. Some people like fat women, so I guess it's sort of normal.
K
Firstly in fixes Husqvarna’s engineering mistake of putting the kick start on the wrong side of the bike thus making the riding of the husky a much more enjoyable experience.
Secondly the other common mod is the fitting of Yamaha wheels so it will also have better brakes.
Thirdly the fitting of the Yamaha fuel tank and seat make it much more comfortable to ride.
Lastly the addition of Yamaha stickers also means you don’t have to throw a tarp over the bike when you’re out in public
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How about someone putting a Husky engine ,tank wheels brakes ext ext in/on a Yamaha mx and then having a track compero ? :D
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Husky engines don't belong in farm bikes Tim.
K
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Husky engines don't belong in farm bikes Tim.
K
Not while there's lawnmowers chainsaws and sewing machines that need motivation ;D
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Do you prefer motorized pianos Mainline? 8)
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I just don't understand why anyone would want to make a Husky, fat, heavy & slow? Each to their own though. Some people like fat women, so I guess it's sort of normal.
K
I'd rather have a fat, heavy and slow Husky that goes and can be made to roost with a bit of encouragement! And it will give me all the love I need without any grief. Give me a low maintenance chubby girl over a super model any day. It's a bit like eating fruit and vegies. We know we have to eat the stuff but it doesn't have the same appeal as a nice juicy hamburger ;)
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I just don't understand why anyone would want to make a Husky, fat, heavy & slow? Each to their own though. Some people like fat women, so I guess it's sort of normal.
K
I'd rather have a fat, heavy and slow Husky that goes and can be made to roost with a bit of encouragement! And it will give me all the love I need without any grief. Give me a low maintenance chubby girl over a super model any day. It's a bit like eating fruit and vegies. We know we have to eat the stuff but it doesn't have the same appeal as a nice juicy hamburger ;)
[/quotes I second that ;)
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Do you prefer motorized pianos Mainline? 8)
C'mon now Steve, you tinkled the ivories out at Harrisville and loved it. Then again you did have sun-stroke. :o
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Hey there is nothing wrong with Huskies ... this one is really nice.
(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg71/marcFX_photo/PROJECT011.jpg)
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Hey there is nothing wrong with Huskies ... this one is really nice.
(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg71/marcFX_photo/PROJECT011.jpg)
That is VERY nice :)
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Is that a Honda lump I see in that lovely frame? 8) Very nice
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Yum ! :D is yours Marc?
Look Husky VMXers basically all I have seen look great , be they OEM or non stock. Would have any one of them today with out any regrets :D