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Clubroom => General Discussion => Topic started by: Paul552 on January 19, 2015, 08:52:26 pm
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I thought this might help divert from the endless eligibility debates. :)
http://www.foxsports.com/motor/story/supercross-chad-reed-disqualified-for-retaliating-against-trey-canard-011815
Take note of @crtwotwo's tweets at the bottom.
It seems both reed and rc complain about consistency in rulings/rules
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Wonder what Bradshaw got for this cracker
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sdqPgXgRxkY
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Not a particular Reed fan, although I respect his skill on a dirtbike:
I don't see that as being worthy of a black flag. Canard's move was more dangerous. Reed's move was aggressive, but not a deliberate take out and Canard could have avoided crashing.
Reed probably deserved a reprimand, but it should have been decided after the race - taking him off the track mid race, means weighing up all the evidence, passing judgement and handing out the penalty in a matter of seconds, without any possibility of recourse if the judgement turns out to be not perfectly correct.
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And rightly so .... Chad was black flagged for taking matters into his own hands.
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Mike Alessi trying to put Brock Tickle in hospital
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=df1x-leTu4g
No black flag here?
Consistency ?
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Big Chad fan. He deserved the black.
That love tap will be more good cement for the legend.
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Ah chad was just trying to get the same gap set as before the hit he took. LOL
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Troy was faster would of over taken him anyway if you going to cut someone off don't do it so blatantly
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Chad is clearly struggling with the lack of form. sorry consistent form.. when he gets in the groove he is still fast
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Trey Canard made a mistake, but it was just that a mistake (a racing incident)
Chad's action was blatant retaliation and not in a corner. It was also right in front of the officials.
Had Chad got going first or Trey not been going slower when he took off it would not have happened. Chad could have gone past Trey and pulled away easily, but he choose to run him off the track while he was straightening himself out.
Had it occurred with them both at speed later in the lap in a corner I'm sure he would not have been black flagged.
Blatant retaliation is not going to be ignored. Also the officials (FIM and AMA) got to see it live and then a replay (on a big screen) straight away. They also apparently didn't want it to escalate more during the race so choose to stop Chad.
I do feel sorry for Chad it was just one of those situations. I hope he can get over it and concentrate on racing.
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Go Chad, looks like the season is over
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Still at least he is Australian made, just not sure if he is Halal approved ::)
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Canards pass was never on (not on that particular corner) Chad, with the possibility of his best result this season going out the door simply had a moment of insanity. Should he have done it..no. Was it amusing to watch..yes ;D
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Chad's line going towards the corner would have taken him to the outside berm, leaving room for Trey to take him on the inside quite legitimately. Chad, having been around the traps for 'a bit', tried to fend this off by cutting to the inside over the jump just before the corner. Pileup unavoidable as a result, but to me, no-one was to blame, given the above, so Chad was out of line (metaphorically). Mind you, I'm sure he thought he'd just give Trey a small fright and a minor bobble, not a stack.
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From where I was sitting (in front of the TV), there was no way known that Trey was going to make that corner without taking both himself and Chad down. He had a major brain fart....simple as that. And i really think that Chad did the same thing, no doubt induced by the serious neck/back injury he sustained in 2013 and what could of happened to him again. Trey should of been penalised for dangerous conduct endangering life and Chad should of been let to ride on and given an extra point for taking out his foe..... Nah, trey is a good guy from what I can tell and I doubt he was intentionally trying to take Chad out. It was a pretty ordinary move though.
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I thought the rule book stated the onus 'was on the overtaking rider', so Trey was in the wrong initially. Chad hit him with a deliberate move when Trey had one hand off the bars adjusting his goggles, so he was probably going to crash no matter how hard or soft he hit him. Stupid rush of blood by Chad. Followed by rush of blood by AMA guy, who had better be consistent for the rest of the year or there will be tears. Chad deserved a penalty after the race (as had been the case with Alessi - presentence set). I was at A1 and there were some of the meanest block pass/take outs I've seen.
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I was at A1 and there were some of the meanest block pass/take outs I've seen.
Unfortunately there is a shitty element of 'roller ball' about MX these days, at some point it became OK to block pass, ride people off and then it all grew up from that.
What happened to good sportsmanship, would you have seen McGrath, Emig et al pulling this shit ? ... Chad really let himself down
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I thought the rule book stated the onus 'was on the overtaking rider', so Trey was in the wrong initially. Chad hit him with a deliberate move when Trey had one hand off the bars adjusting his goggles, so he was probably going to crash no matter how hard or soft he hit him. Stupid rush of blood by Chad. Followed by rush of blood by AMA guy, who had better be consistent for the rest of the year or there will be tears. Chad deserved a penalty after the race (as had been the case with Alessi - presentence set). I was at A1 and there were some of the meanest block pass/take outs I've seen.
+1
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To 'block pass' is pretty bloody easy to do to get past a rider. To leave racing room is more difficult and shows much more sportsmanship. I think its caused by these shitty tracks full of jumps and one lines with nowhere to pass.
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To 'block pass' is pretty bloody easy to do to get past a rider. To leave racing room is more difficult and shows much more sportsmanship. I think its caused by these shitty tracks full of jumps and one lines with nowhere to pass.
Agreed... Lose at least some of the 180 degree corners and give some room for real racing.
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That Moron Canard was out of order , what else was Chad to do. Only thing he did wrong was made it to obvious.
If that idiot had landed right on top of Chad and put him out for the season or worse >:(
It was not a racing incident the fukwit had nowhere to go , why wasn't he penalised ::)
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Apparently Cooper Webb was having a go too ,but missed a blackflag day. :-[
meanwhile at arena cross.
(http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r259/vmx247/10307181_10153478945910278_7351192425112776145_n_zpsa081d0ee.jpg) (http://s146.photobucket.com/user/vmx247/media/10307181_10153478945910278_7351192425112776145_n_zpsa081d0ee.jpg.html)
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In my eyes Reed put the bloke move on.... look at 6sec Chad has inside run full well knowing Canard is up his Rs 7 secs he has switched to inside .... at a much slower speed.
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There is a lot of block passing in SX (and MX) but what Chad did was probably a spur of the moment move that was a blatant get square. Circumstances meant that Trey (not Troy) was just in front of him when they took off again and he was going slower. Chad caught him and could have gone past easily and pulled away, instead he decided to bump him. Whether or not he intended to knock him off the track only Chad knows, but because Trey wasn't holding on with both hands he went off the track and crashed again.
It was the FIM official who gave the penalty but there was an AMA official beside him. They both agreed, on what to do based on seeing it live right in front of them and seeing a replay straight away.
What Chad did was not a block pass it was a blatant get square.