OzVMX Forum
Clubroom => Vinduro => Topic started by: oz555ktm on November 08, 2014, 02:10:22 pm
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VTR
Coming Soon
January 2015
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vintage Trail rides ?
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make sum events up north NSW please
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Down south , would also be tasty
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VTR
Coming Soon
January 2015
Thanks for that all the info on VTR soon .
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SOUNDS INTERESTING 8)
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The mind BOGGLES ..
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Sounds good :D :D :D :D
Don't keep us waiting too long Dennis!
Cheers
Jock
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make sum events up north NSW please
Down south , would also be tasty
If you know of a property chase it up the more members do this the more places we can go and not wear out the same ones all the time , I'm currently chasing up two down south cheers Ek
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GREAT CALL ECK COULD NOT AGREE MORE
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I think North south and in the Middle would be good ...
and I think around 6 Vinduro / rides would be good
But Hay what do you Think ...???
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VERi Trail Rides????
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NO
Definitely not affiliated with VERi 8)
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NO
Definitely not affiliated with VERi 8)
That's good. We can only afford to register our trailers, not our bikes 8)
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Old Enduro Bikes??? ;)
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Red plate rego , unregistered vehicle permits , rec. rego = 80 km loops.
$70.00 red plate rego = free trail riding all year on your vintage trail/enduro bike(In Vic)
Rule of thumb for course setting in reasonable to rugged terrain. Two men 50 k's per day for initial set out . Then one lap to finalized the signage etc.
Should not require many bodies to set courses.
No need to go cutting trails in spots not required or that require large amounts of remedial work to allow safe passage. Minor chain sawing of fallen objects is all that should be required.
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Of the 80 klm loop, how much of it, on average, is transport sections?
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In the true terms of a transport section to the start of section one and from the end of section three to the parc . approx 10km
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VERi Trail Rides????
Hi I would like to clear up VTR
has No ties to the VERi club ..
But is very happy to work along side of ..
VTR is a New Club Ran by a old team to bring Vinduros / Trail Rides N.S.W ..
more soon as info can be release..
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VERi Trail Rides????
Hi I would like to clear up VTR
has No ties to the VERi club ..
VTRis a New Club Ran by a old team of works to bring Vinduros N.S.W ..
more soon as info can be release
Ahh, I see...a break away club from Heaven...Why? Is there a need? A point of difference? (you're going to run pre2000 events?) (you're going to ban old sh$t carts from entering?)
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Well Wayne I think you got it wrong..
I bleave vTr is Not going Pre 2000 or Pre 90
I bleave vTr will be trying to get Old Blokes and Older Bike out and having some Fun ....
in a safe fun environment .
Wayne you Have been to sume Vinduro in N.S.W and I Bleave you had a Lot of Fun on the Husky .
I think the Old Team will do as or Better in 2015 under vTr
and I would like to see you in 2015
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Well Wayne I think you got it wrong..
I bleave VTr is Not going Pre 2000 or Pre 90
I bleave vTr will be trying to get Old Blokes and Older Bike out and having some Fun ....
in a safe fun environment
Enjoy!
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Hey Gadge
They will provide many places to let the robots loose on the unsuspecting public. Rumour has it that a fringe member of the wild bunch has scored himself an automatic
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It all sounds good :) . Hard not to have fun fanging about on a crusty old XR200. I'm in!
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... vTr is Not going Pre 2000 or Pre 90
I bleave vTr will be trying to get Old Blokes and Older Bike out and having some Fun ....
So vTr is a dummy-spit over Heaven going to Pre-90?
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Why would you assume that Nath. I'm hearing you are moving to Qld seeing as Pre 95 is in for next year 8)
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a typical simplistic arrogance ::),the seeds of VTR were planted a whole lot earlier than the current resulting pre 90 vote swing, not everyone listens to the same drumbeat :P
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Nathan Thats is a Bit unfair of a statment ...
about vTr and a Motor Cross Club
vTr is about a Fun safe place to ride your old bike at a vinduro or trail bike ride with Like minded Riders .
vTr is New direction letting riders have a change to ride in a NON RACE event ..
Ride old Bike .talk old Bike talk .No Racing
This May Not sute You and That fine ..
you dont join a Tennis Club to play Foot Ball ! !
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Your such a shit stirrer Nathan! ;) VINDURO is the next big thing, its great to see its picking up in other states. Don't think it has anything to do with pre 90 or HEAVEN.
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We just healed a big divide, and then BAM! It's ripped open again. For what gain?
Heaven has been a strong supporter for non-competitive Vinduros in its name, despite the club's obvious focus on competitive VMX.
To create a Vinduro/Vintage trail riding club that excludes Pre-90 bikes a week after Heaven voted to include Pre-90 can only lead to one conclusion...
If it really is about keeping space between VMX racing and Vinduro not-racing, then fair enough.
But there's zero reason to exclude Pre-90 bikes, and plenty of reasons to include them.
Old bikes are old. We are doomed to mediocrity for as long as we keep segregating old bike enthusiasts from other old bike enthusiasts.
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We just healed a big divide, and then BAM! It's ripped open again. For what gain?
Heaven has been a strong supporter for non-competitive Vinduros in its name, despite the club's obvious focus on competitive VMX.
To create a Vinduro/Vintage trail riding club that excludes Pre-90 bikes a week after Heaven voted to include Pre-90 can only lead to one conclusion...
If it really is about keeping space between VMX racing and Vinduro not-racing, then fair enough.
But there's zero reason to exclude Pre-90 bikes, and plenty of reasons to include them.
Old bikes are old. We are doomed to mediocrity for as long as we keep segregating old bike enthusiasts from other old bike enthusiasts.
I thought that you would have welcomed this with open arms.
Now you can prove to the world that Pre 90, and Pre 90 alone will take VMX to the next level without the burden of old some older bikes getting in the way. Ask yourself this, If Pre 90 is the answer to obvious dwindling attendances then why has QVMX gone Pre 95.
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I've never said that Pre-90 was a magic bullet - but it is an important part of the puzzle.
The world is moving at a much faster rate than our sport.
VMX began when the newest bikes were 13 years old, but now we're arguing that 25 year old bikes are too new...
By doing so, we've made our sport expensive and elitist. Where VMX used to have simplicity and affordability as two big strengths, we now represent very poor value for money - you can buy a good 5 year old bike for considerably less money than a decent VMX bike costs, and the modern will be a LOT cheaper and less time consuming to own.
Nobody wants to see the older classes die, and to suggest that they do is completely wrong.
While we keep finding excuses to drag the chain, the sport continues to languish in the doldrums. Heaven's move to Pre-90 is a clear step forward for the club and for the sport - a burden lifted.
Here's a question I've asked many times, but am yet to hear an answer to: How do other people riding around on old bikes negatively impact anyone's enjoyment of riding around on their old bike?
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Nathan you all way do.This ... I will Not Feed you ..Because That what you want A SHIT fight true ....
if you have a Bone to pick with Me ...Then Do it NOT on a FORUM you know my number or better still
come on over ..That would be Better ....
All I will Say To you is
1st you are Wrong ..
2nd You (Nathan ) if you want to play Tennis then Please Join a Tennis Club .
if you want to Play Football then Please Join a Football club
Yes thay are Both Ball Sports I Know ..
3rd for you (Nathan ) Don't Join your local Yass Tennis Club and Then say to all the Old boys
at the Tennis Club ..Who Just love to Play Tennis the way thay like to do it . ....
We need to Play Foot ball because I think is good for all you Old Tennis Players.
It is what you Tennis Players Need .
It will Fun Playing Tennis with FootBall Players on the same Court.
all the Fast running and the Big Hits its all good for you Old Bloke you know .
This is What Tennis Need Its the future .
you see some time as you get Older you don't want this Shit ..
We want thing to Just stay the same ..
You know same old dirt same old Fun .
some time Bloke don't want to Get with the Time thay just want to Things stay the same ..
some time We just want to Live our Life the way we want ...
The way it use to Be back in the Day.
No Not the way You want..
So Nathan We Old Bloke Dont Need Saving We Don't Need another Hero . .
If You Dont Like DON'T JOIN ..
I will Not Make You...I will Not Tell You To ...
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Dennis and Greg have the runs on the board and have run all the Vinduros on behalf of Heaven for the last couple of years very successfully.
And as usual they have now put there hand up to start there own club they have suggested that it will be pre 85 thats there choice if you dont like the rules dont join. But those of us that do get off our arses and do something are tiring of the fence sitters throwing stones when it is not what they want to hear.If you think pre 90 or 95 is the future go for it. And just for record I am not against pre 90
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I agree with Dennis guys,as he said wen all facts about the club come out.Have a look if you don't think it your cuppa tea don't join,Heaven is a good club glad a decion was made about per 90 .Now let's all do wat each of us want and feel is right for us and get on with having FUN, If clubs don't have rules we all go ride in bush and take our chance with cops ect ect..... No one can decide ,only the individual...
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Dennis and Greg have the runs on the board and have run all the Vinduros on behalf of Heaven for the last couple of years very successfully.
And as usual they have now put there hand up to start there own club they have suggested that it will be pre 85 thats there choice if you dont like the rules dont join. But those of us that do get off our arses and do something are tiring of the fence sitters throwing stones when it is not what they want to hear.If you think pre 90 or 95 is the future go for it. And just for record I am not against pre 90
Dead right Steve. Achievers do. Whingers just fuc...king whinge.
What do you want from the public Nathan. Is it not enough that they give you a job. Do you also want them to organise your sporting activities for you the way you want them. When was the last time you attended a working bee at Heaven or turned up two days early and helped set up a Vinduro loop? Be grateful that there are people like Greg, Dennis, Steve, Shoey etc giving up their own time so the rest of us can have a bit of fun.
And just for the record I'm not against Pre 90 either.
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vTr sounds like a great idea. I wish you well with it Dennis.
HEAVEN is moving with the times and I expect will successfully translate all that's good about vintage motocross and racing into a new era with appeal to a new generation of old dirt bike fans.
But HEAVEN should never be seen as the only game in town - it can't possibly cover every aspect of old dirt bike fun.
vTr will be a successful addition to the scene - not an alternative, but a complementary option for those who want to ride to a different beat sometimes. Keeping to Pre 85 and a less competitive style will appeal to many for whom the more serious race formats just don't quite tick the boxes.
This means that if you wish, you can rock up to a HEAVEN round on your 89 YZ250 and flog yourself silly on a great motocross track like Lakes, and then haul out the PE175 for a fun weekend of low key bush bashing.
How can that not be something to like? Between HEAVEN's progressive decisions and vTrs appeal to a more traditional demographic, riders in southern NSW are simply spoiled for choice!
So, let's keep this thread sympathetic to this ideal and focus on the positives of this new development. Fair warning - I'll wield the editorial axe heavily if discussion wanders off into negative territory. I will simply delete any post from here on in that isn't about the positives of this new club.
If you want to debate the deeper issue, please start a separate thread.
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This is all good, a group of enthusiastic people who put in a great deal of their time and effort to assist others in the enjoyment of their pre-85 enduro legal bikes. I will be more than happy to sign up and attend some of the events as often as I can in 2015.
I am not meaning to stir the pot and I ask these two questions without any malice or disrespect;
1) Will the Heaven club also be organising Vinduros, and if so, for pre-90?
2) What is the main reason that pre-85 is the preferred cutoff, is it tech based? I recall that the Veri club went the same way.
I don't have a pre-90 bike and have no intention in getting one, the PE250Z is all I need, just asking that's all.
Rob
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Graeme ,Steve and Others Thank you for your support..
And This is going to sound Very Strange ... But Thank You Nathan
so Far 32 People E-Mailing Me with Support off this Forum ..after Nathans Post .....
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This is all good, a group of enthusiastic people who put in a great deal of their time and effort to assist others in the enjoyment of their pre-85 enduro legal bikes. I will be more than happy to sign up and attend some of the events as often as I can in 2015.
I am not meaning to stir the pot and I ask these two questions without any malice or disrespect;
1) Will the Heaven club also be organising Vinduros, and if so, for pre-90?
2) What is the main reason that pre-85 is the preferred cutoff, is it tech based? I recall that the Veri club went the same way.
I don't have a pre-90 bike and have no intention in getting one, the PE250Z is all I need, just asking that's all.
Rob
Thanks Rob see they are Good Questions
Unofficial This has Not been Set is Stone and I Believe this is How it will Go.
No Up Side Down Forks ...No Rear Disc Brakes From the Factory when Made ..No Mods to Fit ..Class.
And NO BUTS MUST have a Head Light a Proper Head Light Old style and it Dose not Need to Work
I Bleave VTR
Wiil Go Down the same Line a The VERi Club Have a Look at the Link
http://www.verivinduro.com.au/32/veri-motorcycle-eligibility/
But Please Year and allowed Bikes I will have to Get Back To You all .
Why Do I say this Honda Xr 200 are the same to 1990 What a Pre 90 Bike ( Nathan )
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Actually a Pre 95....shock horror
Unfortunately ol mate has gone off half cocked again ;)
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My point is that "we" keep making divisions where none need to exist. WHY?!
How do other people riding around on old bikes negatively impact anyone's enjoyment of riding around on their old bike?
We are far too small a pastime to be able to indulge in constant internal apartheid and segregation.
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OK People let's get it out their sorry Dennis,PRE 86 bikes but if they don't have a rear disc brake or upside down forks you will get further consideration,as Dennis said you must have a headlight complete with a lense..a piece of perspex will do and no it not have to work and a taillight ? ..their will be no exception if you don't meet these requirements....well you won't be able to ride at VTR... A few simple rule for a heap of fun we think...We have a heap more exciting news soon OK..Everyone can make up their own minds on wat to do we encourage people to join both clubs and double the fun and fun is all we ask you to have and we will do our best to help you do just that.....email or ring one of us if ya want more info we will be more than HAPPY to talk to you........CHEERS GREG H.......
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F&^k some of you guys give Nathan a hard time.
If everyone in the room is in agreement, then there is only one person thinking.
Surely even the most one eyed supporter of the soon to be announced vTr club could see the timing if not related to the Heaven pre90 vote, then is very very poor. reasonable?
This whole 'if your not with us, you must be against us' mentality is a little bit silly don't you think? Can't someone state their opinion? Perhaps you were too busy loading the guns that you couldn't hear the disappointment in the type?
I have an 84, 87 & 88 model vintage collection. My 88 model has upside down forks, so its a no go at your 'vintage trail rides' but it's fine for CD, so that's ok.
I raced a few modern enduro events this year and to my surprise everyone uses the moms ! How easy is that. Std disclaimer at riders briefing, quick and easy. I don't need to be nice to people when I pass them and they don't need to be nice when they pass me. Just ride as fast as you want to;- gold. I'll race a few selected 'Enduro' and 'Vinduro' meetings next year as well, with the occasional 'vintage trail ride'.
Signed
Disappointed Punter
Oh and before the 'you don't contribute' crowd chime in, I have worked at a couple of Enduro events this year.
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Well xc83 you have bike for each event so your good to go.vinduro is none competitive as you no so ride as little or as much as you want -
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Thanks Wayne.
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VERi = Pre-85 with reasonably generous carry-overs.
vTr = roughly Pre-86 with some technical allowances.
EBT Mick's proposed race series = Pre-91 and Pre-01.
Heaven = Pre-90.
Cookardinia = rolling 25 year cut-off (so Pre-91 in 2015).
VMX in the MoMs = Pre-90.
What a bloody maze of random eligibilty requirements!
People- especially people who are new to the sport and are not sure of themselves - like logic and simplicity, and that list is neither simple nor logical.
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My point is that "we" keep making divisions where none need to exist. WHY?!
How do other people riding around on old bikes negatively impact anyone's enjoyment of riding around on their old bike?
We are far too small a pastime to be able to indulge in constant internal apartheid and segregation.
In answer to your question Nathan, the impact is none. No one gives a toss when you're out on the trail as to who's riding what. People are there to ride the event and have fun.
I have also been a strong advocate for Pre-90 Vinduro's. To me Australia produced some great enduro riders in the 80's. That means from 1980-89! Guys like Brooke Flanagan, Pelle Granquist
Brett & Craig Smith, I could rattle off more but as a young bloke growing up these blokes and their MACHINES is what I looked up to. For me I can't just draw the line at Pre 85 without acknowledging what came after.
When organising the Cookardinia Vinduro this year we decided to go with the rolling 25 years. I adopted a similar idea from the VJMC (Vintage Japanese Motorcycling Club) who run with bikes older than 15 years, I quote " To foster the preservation, restoration, riding and enjoyment of ownership of Japanese motorcycles"
What a great philosophy. Obviously they have seen the need and forsight to preserve these bikes before they are lost. It also encourages new members to the club. This is no different in the dirt bike scene. Have a look on Ebay, bike sales, trading post and see how many dirt bikes from 85-90 are on there. Not many why? Because they've had the a#se flogged out of them and have been wrecked out.
I've seen people's responses on this forum in regards to the Pre-90 debate and one comment that really sat uneasy with me was " everyone will just bring their pre-90 bike in favour of a pre-85 bike"
Boy was that bloke wrong ;D Of the 90 odd entrants at Cookardinia I had probably 6 guys on Pre-90 bikes, and yes Nathan was one onboard his KDX, Wayne on his 87 Husky, our MCA sponsor on an 89 KX500 and a couple others on KTM's. Did people care NO, did the locals gather up pitch forks and protest NO
What it did do however was allow more entries and also give guys the option of bringing more than one bike. As I do the registrations for Cooka I noticed the average age of most of the riders was 45-50 years old, so I understand that the bikes that these guys grew up with were from the 70's & 80's and they can relate to them. But what does the future hold for these blokes and their bikes?
Their bodies are getting older and Pre-85 bikes are getting harder to get parts. So when do you draw the line and say I just can't afford to abuse a pre-85 model bike anymore.
I love all dirt bikes but we need to keep Vinduro alive and growing and inject new blood each year, so I'll continue Cookardinia with the same format. I don't believe non-competitive Vinduro events need so many rules, keep it simple. I'll support Dennis and VTR the best I can, he's doing good things for the sport, I just hope the organisation as a whole body listen to peoples ideas and suggestions before they set any rules in stone.
Cheers Brooksie
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I'm sure you VTR chaps will put on some ripper events. Got any event locations in mind yet?
(http://www.leguidevert.com/_lgv/img_forum/2007/08/a80818_1.jpg)
Pic from leguidevert.com
Tex
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Plenty
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From someone who has worked with Dennis on VINDURO in NSW I would like to thank him for all that he has done to get VINDURO going in the state of NSW, he has put a lot of work into it (with the generous help of others) and I wish him and his fellow Vindurist's all the best with their new club.
Whatever format, guidelines etc that they decide to go with they will have my support 100%.
One thing I have learnt in recent times is that there is absolutely no point in being negative, so from me, from here on in it's all about POSITIVITY.
Way to go Dennis and crew! Let the good times roll.
(http://www.vinduro.com.au/wp/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/cookardinia_360_vinduro.jpg)
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Cheers
Jock Davidson
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He is a top bloke
But that cant be a picture of him
1 / its a KTM and its running
2/ its doing a wheelie , so that must be photo shopped
3/ his jersey isn't ripped
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He is a top bloke
But that cant be a picture of him
1 / its a KTM and its running
2/ its doing a wheelie , so that must be photo shopped
3/ his jersey isn't ripped
Shoey, look closer at his elbow.... ;)
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Photo shop again 8)
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He is a top bloke
But that cant be a picture of him
It'd be more convincing for me if the bike and Dennis were underwater and upside down.
Plenty
Great! I'd better start planting seeds in the mind of the "leader of the opposition" about potential weekend getaway destinations in NSW. ;)
Tex
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He is a top bloke
But that cant be a picture of him
1 / its a KTM and its running
2/ its doing a wheelie , so that must be photo shopped
3/ HERjersey isn't ripped
Fixed ;D ;)
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Maybe Captains Flat and Nimmitabel or Bairdwood good location for the Vic fellas to travel too ;)
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Braidwood.......get off the piss Ek
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He is a top bloke
But that cant be a picture of him
1 / its a KTM and its running
2/ its doing a wheelie , so that must be photo shopped
3/ his jersey isn't ripped
Rob, Dennis's ripped blue jersey is part of Myers folklore. Get him to tell you why 8)
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VTR. Pre 86 or no rear disc or upside down forks.must have a headlight working or not .Now I am only a dumb truck driver but that is no great list of requirements..If like I said you don't like wat were doing or how were doing it then don't join us ...Problem solved for everyone..Guys their is now a pre 90 club which as far as I no has been going for a couple of years anyway,its just moved.And should be good.Pick wat suits ya and do it all will be happy.
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I dont really care if it's Pre 90 or not , If Dennis and his merry men put on an advent I will go. If they do the work they can make the rules. If that rubs you then the simple answer is YOU do the work and run things your way.
Have anyone considered handicapping by bike age? Like to get Gold on a 89 model you must do 20 laps. Pre 78 12 laps etc?
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Is there going to be powered tent sites at vTr meets?
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Teddsky
i know the story about the jersey
Pre 86 is fab.
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On ya Vanoffal. It's gonna be great. Vic and NSW on the same page. Happy days
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Good luck with your events sounds great, would be great to come have a ride..
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VTR. Pre 86
Coooooooooool 8)
Head down arse up all day, getting ready for next year. Just so happened picked a couple of Maicos up
from storage today,,,,a 81 GS250 and a 85 GS250
(http://i677.photobucket.com/albums/vv132/mc125mick/20141112_192712_zpswpui5cks.jpg~original)
How's that for chance,,,,,happy days,,,great days indeed 8)
This particular second one was campained in the four day, supplied and sponsored by Ross King Maico.
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Great! I'd better start planting seeds in the mind of the "leader of the opposition" about potential weekend getaway destinations in NSW. ;)
Tex
We might need to start a car poolimg schedule between us Vic blokes Tex.
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Geezus MickyD, are you forging compliance plates now?.....that looks a bit "fresh" mate.....are you gonna put them up for sale?....Teddy's mate Roger Rogerson will be able to help you out......good luck with the venture. I might have to bring the PE250B down and round up Teddy on his it. ;D
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Narrrrh, I don't think you can, they are raised characters, sort of like English braille, stamped from behind with special special unavailable to the public type shit.
As fresh as the day it was fitted in 1985, see the low volume statement on it. And you would have to know the one off secret government allocated codes. Good luck if you guessed it wrong ::)
This bike needs a lot of attention, but none the less it is one very special machine.
One of only a hundred factory specials.
This one has its own interesting and unique intended purpose and history :)
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Actually this bike still has the last rego label fitted to it.
Its rego was continuously maintained until the engine shit itself in 2007.
The usual story. It shit itself because it had just been miss serviced by an uneducated self proclaimed guru.
Some mothers do have em.
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Nice plate there Mick. Can you show us the rest of the bike.
If it was used in the 4 Day was it owned by Mitch Heffernan. He was a heavy campaigner with Maico. Pretty sure he test rode a few Maico's for T&T magazine and Revs at the time.
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Nice plate there Mick. Can you show us the rest of the bike.
If it was used in the 4 Day was it owned by Mitch Heffernan. He was a heavy campaigner with Maico. Pretty sure he test rode a few Maico's for T&T magazine and Revs at the time.
Yeap you got it right Brooksie.
It was reportedly originally intended for GB, but Bombardier had him tied and were being a bunch of pricks.
Just transported it to the workshop today, not sure when I will be back there with several bikes ahead of it.
Just bought a heap of stuff of ebay for it in the past two hours.
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I will probably be scorned and frowned upon,,,,, ::) but,,
I don't like the silver frames they changed to,,,,I prefer to do it like the earlier red frames to match the plastics
Repainting frame will lose the history and providence of the four day number engraving history etc,,,
but its not for selling,,,,, its a life-fer until forced from my possession.
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OK, so I had a good conversation with Dennis last night.
I'm happy to say that I was wrong WRT his motives.
To hugely simplify it, he explained that the main motivation is to supply events that are even more casual/less competitive than 'normal' Vinduros.
I have issues with some of the ways they're trying to achieve that goal, but they also have some very good ideas (including one that I reckon will nail the goal, all by itself).
We agreed to disagree on a whole bunch of stuff, but the main thing that pissed me off isn't a significant factor.
So... While I would dearly love to see the entire old-dirt-bike world have consistent, inclusive eligibility, I think that vTr will have a worthwhile place in that world.
Good luck with the venture. :)
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Yeah I was disappointed that my newish 89 KDX200 is welcome in Heaven but out in this new vTr thing,,,But
I will quite smilingly and simply go with the flow, Dennis and Holmesy bust their asses to always give us vintage trail riders a great event.
I hope all their out of pocket expenses are well and truly covered, they dam well should be.
The time they donate to us, is phenomenal.
They barely ride, if at all. Instead they work their guts out to make sure all is well for us.
They have spoilt us rotten.
I always feel guilty at the amount of work they and some others do for the hoard.
I am working hard now on being more organised for next year, so I can get there a day early and possible help out.
Well that's the plan Stan.
What they have already given us is way beyond any dream that I thought would ever happen 8)
Thanks to some top Blokes.
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http://thumbs1.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/mo8xAkDsaglcaDo5CZ6RVPg.jpg
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News travels fast 8)
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Nathan you bet me to the post on posting ..
We had a Good chat for 98mins and both said what we felt and why , I was glad that Nathan had seen what We are
trying to do is a more Social ride Non competitive riding of Old Bike for Mr Norm average ...
Most Clubs its all about RACING ..and its Hard for mr Norm Average to come along feel apart of it .
No one wants to get Killed or worse get hurt . we all need to go Home to Family and go to work to Pay the the Bills .
vTr will not suit every one ..and I I know this...
I did have one e-mail for some one .( I thank you for that ) He dose not like a few
things and this is find ... Its about Choice .. If you Dont Like it Dont Join us ...
We will not force you to ..
I now under stand that Holbrook , two other Club will be doing Vinduro Too ...
and Do Not forget VERi in vic will be running some top Vinduro too
and if you want to RACE you can all ways Do a Modern Enduro ....
so Plenty of Choice
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Have ya's advertised yet for someone who can spell ;D ;D ;D
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Spell denying Mick...and it isn't deigning ;D
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That's the best you can do ;D :P
You got nuthin,
Anyhow shouldn't you be getting ready for next year or something,
Like trying to do some push-ups,,sorry I meant push-up ;D
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Starting tomorrow. But the downside of it all is there will be no electric chilly bin on my trailer :'(
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Good on ya Ted, I stopped the grog after the last heaven meeting.
A bit difficult at first, but I am starting to feel pretty good now.
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Have anyone considered handicapping by bike age? Like to get Gold on a 89 model you must do 20 laps. Pre 78 12 laps etc?
I’m struggling to keep up with pre 78s now.
Vinduro has grown in NSW and the people that we have been attracting to the sport are a great bunch.
The only problem for me is that I like to get to every NSW Vinduro each year so now that Dennis Greg and others are organizing more events its getting a bit harder to get so many permission notes off the Mrs.
I like the way that Vinduro has been aimed at enjoyment and mate-ship, I'm not there to race, just like the bulk of the riders are there to have a good time. Its REC licensed. No need to bring the race face, there is plenty of "real race" off road events that cater for the competitive nature where riders can try their skills against others that are equally willing to kick their arses back.
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Exactly. Tymes