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Clubroom => Vintage Track => Topic started by: SON on August 28, 2014, 05:59:10 am
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Tickets go on sale tomorrow for the 2015 TBC
Via the TBC website
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The days around the TBC will turn into a real Dirt Speedweek especially if all the rumours work out.
Starting the Saturday before with a Twins and Pros Practice Day at Barleigh Ranch
Saturday Night the Final Round of the OZ Speedway Titles at KURRI Speedway
Sunday will be another Pro Practice at the Gunnedah Oil Track
Wednesday will be a Flattrack meeting at Newcastle Showground under a Track Permit with no front brakes
Thursday will be the TBC Media day at Old Bar
Saturday the TBC
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Graeme, will anybody be able to participate in the side events you have mentioned above or will they be by invitation only?
Cheers
Steve
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whats TBC??? pray tell...
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Troy Bayliss classic.........that needs To Be Confirmed ;D.
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riiiiiggghhhttt got ya now....
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Graeme, will anybody be able to participate in the side events you have mentioned above or will they be by invitation only?
Cheers
Steve
Forum members will get first invite
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Nice work Graeme!
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Especially Astros and Framers and Twins of any Mutation
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How are you going with the Newcastle event?
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Ok Newcastle Showground Speedway / Flattrack is on Tuesday Night January 13th,
Vintage Dirttrack / Speedway are Demonstration races of approx 10 laps x 5 sessions
First rule overtaking around the outside only
Wanting Framer Flattrackers/ Replicas and TBC Competitors first,
PM me your details
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I'm still too injured to ride, but Mia and I will be there watching.......... 8)
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Anymore Info on classes to be run etc?
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Are the vintage bikes going to run 19" tyres in 2015?
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We just arrived back from TBC EVO had 3 rounds of riding
1st 894 Steven Freiberg
2nd 11 Darren Saxon
3rd 31 John Kittle
A hot day and very competitive riding.
Bikes looked good. Tyre changing during the day.
The track lost the oil slick surface as the day progressed.
I think that Tyre choice again proved difficult for the riders.
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I was very disappointed to miss out on having a ride again with the Evo's at TBC, and I just want to say, some, that WERE invited to ride ONLY 3 rounds, took it upon themselves to not ride in the 3rd round..............because of this Sorelegs11 was ROBBED of 1st place overall by 1 point...........NOT HAPPY JAN !!!.............to be given the PRIVILEGE !! of riding at this GREAT event should NOT be ABUSED !!! >:( >:( >:(
Congratulations to those riders that DID complete the mission, in particular...........DARREN SAXON..........well done Champion !! :D :D
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Had Peter Lees not taken himself and us 2 queenslanders out Darren would've been 4th again and 4th overall.
Realistically he was lucky to get 2nd!
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Had Peter Lees not taken himself and us 2 queenslanders out Darren would've been 4th again and 4th overall.
Realistically he was lucky to get 2nd!
Fair observation JohnnyO, and let me say now, Darren actually said that to me, however, the point I'm REALLY trying to make is, next year the Powers that Be should pick a TEAM of riders that FRONT in EVERY race and not GIVE UP because they are down on points............The Evo's is supposed to be an EXHIBITION of BIKES from the past, so ALL the riders should ride every round if their bikes a still capable of finishing 4 laps !!! 8) ;D
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True Dave, and I can tell you there are more fast Qlders very keen to get in...
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How does one get a invite to this event ? Evo class
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Dave no one from our group of riders gave up a round because they were down on points. Only body injuries and A mechanical problem. I was there.
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Had Peter Lees not taken himself and us 2 queenslanders out Darren would've been 4th again and 4th overall.
Realistically he was lucky to get 2nd!
Darren if you have read this, I recon you owe me half the prize-money! Seriously, what fantastic event. Thanks for the opportunity to ride fellows and I hope I have not ruffled any feathers. Steve and John are great blokes and looking forward to racing them again.
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Round 1 of the EVO race.
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The 3 blokes pictured above were the ones to catch all day and I could not beleive my eyes when they went down in front of me, but thats racing and I'll take the "Bradbury". ;)
Checks in the mail Peter.
Dave is spot on with the comment on riders not riding the whole 3 rounds, The points factor aside mechanical failure and injury are the only valid excuses in my opinion not to ride,as the oportunity to ride at this event is a rare one and out of respect for being offered a ride all should be on the track if possible.
Webby threw a tyre in round 1 & 2 BUT STILL fitted another in between rounds to finish the day,
On another note It may be an idea to educate the crowd on the flag system, the abuse by the crowd at flag marshals in the zone past turns 2 & 3 was a discrace with one nutjob female : ::) demanding the security on the pit gate to run out and stop the race after an accident in this area, me thiks another flag point may be a good idea, there was a set of lights but I still have not seen them.
All up its a great day of racing and the social side of it is also well worth the effort.
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Check out the crowd!
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You don't see a crowd like that at too many dirtbike races these days. I'm sure that's better than the MX Nationals...
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I go to a lot of different races through the year including mx nationals Graeme and the TBC has the biggest crowd and must now be the premier bike race meeting in Oz..
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I go to a lot of different races through the year including mx nationals Graeme and the TBC has the biggest crowd and must now be the premier bike race meeting in Oz..
That should be premier DOMESTIC bike race meeting in Australia. MotoGP, World Supers and the Speedway GP will surpass it, but Troy and the Club have done a fantastic job.
If you want to solve the problem of riders giving up and not fronting. Invite more Queenslanders, we don't give up.
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Yes that's what I meant Kev, best local meet..
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While on the TBC subject, the Classic (Evo) class could also attract internationals ie USA. I have broached the subject with Paul Covert,racer, promoter and friend from Little Rock, it could happen if we (as a group?) could raise the airfare ($1800). I have meet Dave Aldana (on any Sunday fame) several times, other names ie. Jim Monegan, Ron Long, Davey Durell, etc could be lured (one hopes) to attend. I will certainly supply the bike. I will be there in a month and will see them again, the blokes I mentioned are currently racing and will flog us senseless.
I for one was surprized how many people came up to me over the weekend for a talk about the good ol'days. The scene in the states is the same/similar as here, die-hard fanatics.
Food for thought, we could make the old bike racing get carried along with Troy's brilliant meeting.
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Well done to Steven, Darren and John for a job well done. Sorry for missing the 3rd round Darren but the tyre choice and back brake on the bike was malfunctioning. Of course I would have raced the third round even if it meant giving you the 1st place trophy ( lol ) if I could have.
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Favourite shot of the weekend. Most of my USA racing friends have been following the TBC and one rider seems keen to come over, he is a very good racer, has run with the likes of Davey Durell.
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Well done to Steven, Darren and John for a job well done. Sorry for missing the 3rd round Darren but the tyre choice and back brake on the bike was malfunctioning. Of course I would have raced the third round even if it meant giving you the 1st place trophy ( lol ) if I could have.
All is forgiven Geebob..............just to change the subject, with the renewed interest in dirt track from our Northern cousins, why don't we try and get a NSW V QLD Teams race series going........one year down here and alternate year in Qld.......just a thought. In the Golden Era, my old club Central and Taree had them.......and St George V The Rest at Griffith was popular.......Cheers......Alvin ;D
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I'd be in that
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colin
at griffith its in nsw its my fav track
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Col dosen't go so well at Griffith,looses count of the laps there ;D,(hmmm might just be a senior moment ;)), :P
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Cheeky sod. Must have been lapping you and got confused :-)
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I'm with you, Jim..........Griffith.........although I haven't ridden there since 1975........40 years..........shouldn't be a problem....... :o :o :o
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Whilst I would love to see the likes of Aldana and a few
other Americans that Pete has mentioned
competing in the Evo Class at the TBC if there
is only going to be one grid of Evo bikes I would like to
see more Aussies given the opportunity to grid
up.
To put it another way, how many of the
Evo class blokes at this years TBC would be happy
to give up there spot.
Hands up and no bullshitting.
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Whilst I would love to see the likes of Aldana and a few
other Americans that Pete has mentioned
competing in the Evo Class at the TBC if there
is only going to be one grid of Evo bikes I would like to
see more Aussies given the opportunity to grid
up.
To put it another way, how many of the
Evo class blokes at this years TBC would be happy
to give up there spot.
Hands up and no bullshitting.
I throught the same thing yesterday but throught I will get slammed for it .
We Should let the locals have a go first ;) australias
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Not me..
And I don't think we need a US legend or 2 out front on their own
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Yeah Mick 25 I thought long and hard before putting that post up and am still waiting
for the on slaught.
Not quite sure if I am getting your drift Johnny o
about a couple a couple of yanks out the front.
Peter Lee and David Gras whom have both
competed in America have been competitive
the Americans on their dung hill so I dont see that
as an issue.
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Peter said the yanks would kick our arses
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its the same as the modern stuff 3 or 4 are outstanding but our aussie guys hold there own over there
i think peter is a past no 1 plate holder and so is grassy those two kick arse were ever they ride
they are held in high regard in dirt track over in the usa
only the good short trackers turn right well most its left only
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Surprised Peter would sell his Aussie mates up the creek that quick.
Johnny as always I'm a little confused.
Those Americans that would kick our arses.
Are they the same ones that Peter has beaten
in America.
Pete, feel free to chime in any time and set the
record straight.
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Re: 2015 TBC
« Reply #29 on: January 19, 2015, 03:05:00 PM »
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While on the TBC subject, the Classic (Evo) class could also attract internationals ie USA. I have broached the subject with Paul Covert,racer, promoter and friend from Little Rock, it could happen if we (as a group?) could raise the airfare ($1800). I have meet Dave Aldana (on any Sunday fame) several times, other names ie. Jim Monegan, Ron Long, Davey Durell, etc could be lured (one hopes) to attend. I will certainly supply the bike. I will be there in a month and will see them again, the blokes I mentioned are currently racing and will flog us senseless.
I for one was surprized how many people came up to me over the weekend for a talk about the good ol'days. The scene in the states is the same/similar as here, die-hard fanatics.
Food for thought, we could make the old bike racing get carried along with Troy's brilliant meeting.
dave aldana.davey durell very good
there is someone from little rock would beat everyone for sure, nick name little JOHN from little rock JK initals,he dose win eveything he enters
these are the only names i know all the rest i know make up the feild
jim
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Ask Peter, in his last post on the previous page he says the yanks will flog us senseless
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Ask Peter, in his last post on the previous page he says the yanks will flog us senseless
Do you really think you can justify bringing international riders over for 3 races. Maybe Troy Bayliss might like the idea of boosting the Legends class with some internationals. Really if you are to bring in international riders you need another meeting for them to race at too. Maybe a Long Track somewhere.
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Thanks to the Riders that rode at TBC2015,it was a great event,and can only get better.You blokes are on the right track,thinking of inviting Dave Aldana and a couple more riders over,is a good idea.The event has an international flavour,which gets world coverage.The first article, for this year,is already in Cycle News.This type of coverage can only be achieved with an international lineup.
It would only take another 60 spectators to cover 1 rider's airfare,and I am sure that there would be plenty of people willing to assist with accommodation etc,I reckon the event would have added $600,000+to the local economy,not including entry,food,etc at the event.
There are plenty of people who would jump at the chance to meet Dave Aldana,many of us started riding around the OAS years,and a well planned programme starting on Friday,maybe a barbecue at the beach at Old Bar with all your bikes there,would be fantastic!And anyone that can grab an ear at TMCC,please get them to get a proper Public Address system,we struggled with a crap system,and bit the bullit and put in a system that covers the whole sports ground,worth every cent.
Keep the "Big" number plates(they should be on all the bikes) old age,and industrial accidents is affecting my sight,and they just look the part.
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Maybe they could go up against some aussie evo slider's - maybe watto ;D
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Great idea about more events,I am only 3 hrs from Gunnedah,and could make a road trip via the Dah on the way to Taree,even if it was only a practice,demo day on Thursday.The boys had a ride there this year, before the TBC.
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Just re read Pete's post re the American guys and yes he did
indeed say they would flog us sensless. My alologies to Johnny
o for running off at the key board. Again.
Still don't understand. Pete these guys you say that would woop
our lilly whites, are they the same ones that you beat
over their or are we talking about completely different classes.
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I don't think we need to bring any imports into the Evo class, it's a chance for the locals that that race here year round to showcase their talents and bikes on the big stage. There's already a que of locals wanting to get into the race next year and only 12 grid spots..
If you want to bring Dave Aldana or Jay Springsteen over put them in the Legends race.
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You will be entertained if you bring David Aldana out here, I am not talking about on the Track!
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I better go back to my backyard and lie low for awhile, the racing was great at the Bayliss and the old bike racing was fun. I love racing and just haven't had much opportunity this (2014) to do much, apart from Nepean and a couple of club days. Lets hope the Nationals will happen (Temora looks like the only candidate) and Nepean Charity event is always fun. Cheers.
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I don't think we need to bring any imports into the Evo class, it's a chance for the locals that that race here year round to showcase their talents and bikes on the big stage. There's already a que of locals wanting to get into the race next year and only 12 grid spots..
If you want to bring Dave Aldana or Jay Springsteen over put them in the Legends race.
I agree with JohnnyO............The TBC Evo is just an exhibition of bikes from a previous era.........with 12 only spots, lets leave it Aussie.............to help promote the OZ Classic titles, maybe the first 6 placegetters in the Oz Evo final should be seeded through to following year's TBC.......... ;D
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I don't think we need to bring any imports into the Evo class, it's a chance for the locals that that race here year round to showcase their talents and bikes on the big stage. There's already a que of locals wanting to get into the race next year and only 12 grid spots..
If you want to bring Dave Aldana or Jay Springsteen over put them in the Legends race.
I agree with JohnnyO............The TBC Evo is just an exhibition of bikes from a previous era.........with 12 only spots, lets leave it Aussie.............to help promote the OZ Classic titles, maybe the first 6 placegetters in the Oz Evo final should be seeded through to following year's TBC.......... ;D
That might be a bit hard Dave as TBC is over 40's
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I agree with JohnnyO............The TBC Evo is just an exhibition of bikes from a previous era.........with 12 only spots, lets leave it Aussie.............to help promote the OZ Classic titles, maybe the first 6 placegetters in the Oz Evo final should be seeded through to following year's TBC.......... ;D
Has the EVO class been run at the Classic DT Championships lately. It wasn't on the sup-regs for Canberra and I don't think anyone has run a Post Classic DT championship yet.
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The real era of classic DT should be Pre 75 not evo!! Let the bombardment begin ;)
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Has the EVO class been run at the Classic DT Championships lately. It wasn't on the sup-regs for Canberra and I don't think anyone has run a Post Classic DT championship yet.
Temora NSW 2013
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The real era of classic DT should be Pre 75 not evo!! Let the bombardment begin ;)
You know I'm with you Champion..........Evo's are TOO NEW !!!........... ;D ;D
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Kev, we ran an Evo class at Nudgee 2011, and pretty sure they did at Griffith
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I’d like to see the TBC to be as the MoMS. 1 x classic class and 1 x Post classic class, I’m sure some of the legends would fill the spots on 500 2 strokes. Vintage riders with 2 bikes could get 2 rides, throw a couple of yanks into the mix. All on sticky 19"s.
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From the few demonstration rides Springsteen and Chris Carr did in the US last year, they showed they still have good pace. Would be great to see a few US guys from an earlier era come an have a crack. It's not just 3 races either, there is the week leading up to the event that helps promote dirt track not only nationally but internationally!
Personally I would like to have a chat face to face with Davey Durelle.
Cheers,
Steve
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The real era of classic DT should be Pre 75 not evo!! Let the bombardment begin ;)
Looks like I will have to get some action going on the rd350 project so we can throw some dirt on them bulcato's. ;)
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Has the EVO class been run at the Classic DT Championships lately. It wasn't on the sup-regs for Canberra and I don't think anyone has run a Post Classic DT championship yet.
Temora NSW 2013
Yes you are right. The 2014 MOMS lists EVO class Champions. So somehow it was let slip through. I know Canberra didn't have them on the sup-regs last year.
As for the TBC it should remain EVO (why change!!!!)
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Most will probably disagree but I would like to see Framer Flattrackers at the TBC, than old Motocrossers with 21" fronts,
Astros and Champions would add to the TBC, I don't think the current bikes do!
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Yep. And chuck in a couple of the American's.
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Or let the old bikes run 19s like they used to...
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Or let the old bikes run 19s like they used to...
To my knowledge they can run whatever wheel & tyre size they want too.
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Or let the old bikes run 19s like they used to...
To my knowledge they can run whatever wheel & tyre size they want too.
The TBC Evo Exhibition Class has been run under OEM wheel size rule for the last two years. The first year also included a "control tyre".
FWIW I would like to see either a Framers Class (if we could get enough out there) or alternatively a Pre '90 on oil set up class which could also include sliders just like BITD. Both of these depict different era's/styles of dirt track with the framers obviously giving us an American flavour and the big bore 2 strokes on wets depicting Aussie DT in the eighties.
Just my $0.02
Cheers
Shaun
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It'd be great to use the TBC to showcase the older bikes, but is there room for Evo AND Pre 90 AND Framers? Personally I'd love to see a Pre 85 or 90 class on oil track setup like back in the day as you say, but would there be the interest in setting up a whole bunch of CR/KX/YZ 500s for one race a year? Would TB21 be interested in adding those classes?
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I see where the interest is in the class, but truly the organizes are trying to reward the riders that support "evo"(I assume) racing by rewarding the "evo" racers. The 19'' wheel does not suit all tracks but if we get on the bandwagon I think riders will be surprized how good they are. The event probably is too big already and the Classics are lucky to be included in the program (bloody fantastic event). Personally I would love to see a US rider race the old bikes and will give one my bike to one to ride. One rider has shown interest. It would only add to the spectacle and promote Classic racing. Still surprized how many spectators photographed my bike.
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It'd be great to use the TBC to showcase the older bikes, but is there room for Evo AND Pre 90 AND Framers? Personally I'd love to see a Pre 85 or 90 class on oil track setup like back in the day as you say, but would there be the interest in setting up a whole bunch of CR/KX/YZ 500s for one race a year? Would TB21 be interested in adding those classes?
No there would no chance of running two exhibition classes. I think though that 500 2T's set up for oil with perhaps some legends involved such as Kev Horton, Chris Watson, Gally etc would be awesome to watch.
I've got a 88 YZ490 that I'd be happy to loan to Casso if he was keen. And with a year to get ready setup shouldn't be a problem ;)
Cheers
Shaun
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Thanks Shaun, I will take you up on the yz490 offer. PM me.
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It would pull your arms off dude. Better stick to the Taco's ;D
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I agree Shaun, it'd be great to see a class like that. It would be somewhat comparable to the actual TBC races - similar setup etc, just showing the differences over 20-30 years. Imagine the Legends on Pre 90 bikes with the right setup?
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I spoke to Troy about the classes last year at the Brisbane Ekka meeting we rode. He said he was thinking of adding a pre 90 class and having 2 classes but for whatever reason it didn't happen.
I think it would be great alongside Evo to add the pre 90 class and allow 19" wheels, it would definitely attract a few name riders and those bikes would be awesome around there. .
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The 2015 TBC was featured on"Flat Track Radio"hosted by flat tracker Cory Texter,who also did an interview with Troy Bayliss in "Cycle World"(both can be found on the net).He spoke to Jared Mees,as well as Troy for half an hour.Jared had plenty of good things to say,he seemed surprised at the speed of all the riders,with special mention for Paul Caslick,commenting that this "old guy"was on the pace,coming 3rd in the TBC.
All good promotion for next year.I had an idea that might be worth considering,how about having some racing on Friday night,I know it would take some doing,but a lot of the spectators I spoke to,had travelled a fair way,and were staying for a couple of days anyway.I go to a few airshows,and a lot of them have practice and a twilight show on Friday,which is open to the public(I met Geoff Ballard and his wife at Omaka NZ in2013,his father was a Kittyhawk Pilot). With the coverage in the US,there is potential for spectators making the trip to Australia,and having a 2 day event may bring people over.The Airshow at Omaka goes for 3days,and attracts 35,000 spectators,to a town with 8,000 residents!
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The 2015 TBC was featured on"Flat Track Radio"hosted by flat tracker Cory Texter,who also did an interview with Troy Bayliss in "Cycle World"(both can be found on the net).He spoke to Jared Mees,as well as Troy for half an hour.Jared had plenty of good things to say,he seemed surprised at the speed of all the riders,with special mention for Paul Caslick,commenting that this "old guy"was on the pace,coming 3rd in the TBC.
All good promotion for next year.I had an idea that might be worth considering,how about having some racing on Friday night,I know it would take some doing,but a lot of the spectators I spoke to,had travelled a fair way,and were staying for a couple of days anyway.I go to a few airshows,and a lot of them have practice and a twilight show on Friday,which is open to the public(I met Geoff Ballard and his wife at Omaka NZ in2013,his father was a Kittyhawk Pilot). With the coverage in the US,there is potential for spectators making the trip to Australia,and having a 2 day event may bring people over.The Airshow at Omaka goes for 3days,and attracts 35,000 spectators,to a town with 8,000 residents!
There have been some good ideas stated here, but unless Troy himself or someone organising the meeting gets to here about these ideas, what is the point.
Linking to another event is worthwhile and could attract support from the NSW Government. Queensland has EventCorp that can support promotions, I'm sure NSW would have something similar.
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There is people on this forum that have some influence,
The idea of forums is to get some feedback on ideas
Nothing for next years TBC will happen soon
But I expect a few Internationals for next years Vintage Class
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Son is spot on. I know that there are members on this forum who are involved.
The feedback is good.
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I’d like to see the TBC to be as the MoMS. 1 x classic class and 1 x Post classic class, I’m sure some of the legends would fill the spots on 500 2 strokes. Vintage riders with 2 bikes could get 2 rides, throw a couple of yanks into the mix. All on sticky 19"s.
Whats wrong with this idea apart from the EVO’s become the disadvantaged bikes in that race like any Pre 78’s are in the current format?
If the rule book for our sport is Classic (Pre 78) and Post Classic ( Evo to Pre 90) isn’t that the logical way to grow our showing at this Pretigous event.
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All good to try and improve. Thing is, i know people who raced in Legends and the classic class this year -neither are rich enough to be buying new bikes for an event. The last thing they need is for the format to be stuffed around with and not know whats what till two months before the event. TBC seems to be the most successful DT event growing in Nationals that i know of. Looking forward to spectating next year.
Brett
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Just checking my photos ( the usual 1000) from the TBC,the "best Transporter"has to be "THE BUS",WA Rego with the extended radiator,and wired on overflow bottle,and other accessories,those blokes should have got Tony's Knighthood,just for driving it from WA!
I have a photo of it,but can't work how to put it on the forum from the I Pad,nearly ready to resort to the hammer,it used to work in the old days.
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Just checking my photos ( the usual 1000) from the TBC,the "best Transporter"has to be "THE BUS",WA Rego with the extended radiator,and wired on overflow bottle,and other accessories,those blokes should have got Tony's Knighthood,just for driving it from WA!
I have a photo of it,but can't work how to put it on the forum from the I Pad,nearly ready to resort to the hammer,it used to work in the old days.
To put photos on the forum you have to have something like a photobucket account. So you can just link to the photo on that site. The forum hasn't got enough space to up-load images to it. I think there is a section in here that can show you how to do it. Guide to posting images on forum http://forum.ozvmx.com/index.php?topic=6667.0 (http://forum.ozvmx.com/index.php?topic=6667.0)
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The Troy Bayliss Classic was featured on RPM today on ONE,will be repeated at4am tomorrow morning,so set the recorder,or watch it before you milk the cows.
Troy has hung up the WSBK leathers after the Thai round,with a 9th and 11th in very hot conditions,not a bad effort for an old bloke!