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Title: 2015 pre 78 Nats
Post by: Iain Cameron on August 24, 2014, 03:22:00 pm
Any hints on which state they are in .
Title: Re: 2015 pre 78 Nats
Post by: albrid-3 on August 24, 2014, 04:07:23 pm
I HAVE HEARD QLD.
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Post by: VMX Andrew on August 24, 2014, 07:58:04 pm
Raymond Terrace NSW  ;)
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Post by: albrid-3 on August 24, 2014, 09:35:31 pm
BARRABOOL VICTORIA
Title: Re: 2015 pre 78 Nats
Post by: VMX247 on August 25, 2014, 01:13:22 pm
Yes Victoria be nice tourist visit.. it a long haul & $$ to Qld every second year or so !!   :)

Title: Re: 2015 pre 78 Nats
Post by: 211 on August 25, 2014, 09:32:31 pm
I guess someone just needs to have a go and run it, my guess is WA but they seem to be a tad out of sorts at the moment; 16 and 17 look like they are already taken.................
Victoria would be good, NSW even better.
Title: Re: 2015 pre 78 Nats
Post by: Simo63 on August 25, 2014, 09:34:41 pm
I guess someone just needs to have a go and run it, my guess is WA but they seem to be a tad out of sorts at the moment; 16 and 17 look like they are already taken.................
Victoria would be good, NSW even better.

I've hear WA from another source already as well ... so my money's on WA
Title: Re: 2015 pre 78 Nats
Post by: GD66 on August 25, 2014, 10:16:49 pm
The issue with WA is that the club there has a staunch, died-in-the-wool, everyone-can-get-stuffed Pre-75 or death attitude which is the first line of their constitution and engenders a strong line of defiance amongst a significant percentage of their members.
The relatively minor relaxation of this stance to include the pre-78 fields meets icy condemnation and little reception, so unless there's a significant alteration to this attitude, the pre-78 nats won't be getting allocated to WA anytime soon... 8)
Title: Re: 2015 pre 78 Nats
Post by: Slakewell on August 26, 2014, 07:00:44 am
IMO NSW really dosent have any where to run it at present , Vic might not have enough people interested.
Title: Re: 2015 pre 78 Nats
Post by: 211 on August 26, 2014, 07:05:44 am
The issue with WA is that the club there has a staunch, died-in-the-wool, everyone-can-get-stuffed Pre-75 or death attitude which is the first line of their constitution and engenders a strong line of defiance amongst a significant percentage of their members.
The relatively minor relaxation of this stance to include the pre-78 fields meets icy condemnation and little reception, so unless there's a significant alteration to this attitude, the pre-78 nats won't be getting allocated to WA anytime soon... 8)
More than one club in Perth though - the question is about the support of the one that could run it. Seems to me to be a fractured state of affairs in WA at present when once it was the example for us all.
I hold a strong view that if we are a true national sport then the location of the Nationals has to move from state to state however there is a reluctance to run it.
There are options if WA chooses not to have a go, for a bunch of guys that put in an amazing effort to attend long distances away it would be a shame to not have it in their back yard.
Title: Re: 2015 pre 78 Nats
Post by: KTM47 on August 26, 2014, 09:01:32 am
IMO NSW really dosent have any where to run it at present , Vic might not have enough people interested.

I'm sure there are venues in NSW to run the Classic MX Champs.  Someone just needs to look further than around Sydney.  NSW does not stand for Newcastle, Sydney, Woolongong.  I also believe the venue used has to be true Natural Terrain.  There were some good venues used for the Thumper Nats and the AMCROSS series has some as well. 
Title: Re: 2015 pre 78 Nats
Post by: KTM47 on August 26, 2014, 09:04:20 am
There has been a lot of posts now RE the 2015 Classic MX Champs, but what about the

POST CLASSIC MX CHAMPS ?
Title: Re: 2015 pre 78 Nats
Post by: BA #63 on August 26, 2014, 09:16:02 am
whoever gets it needs our support we need to be more positive towards the organizers SA have had it twice in three years which is good because it fair distance for east and west but if you want to add sidecars you must go west its been eight years since our last national event i am sure they can also accommodate for the pre 78 bikes WA is part of Australia so come over ;) ;)   
Title: Re: 2015 pre 78 Nats
Post by: Tossa on August 26, 2014, 09:27:18 am
The issue with WA is that the club there has a staunch, died-in-the-wool, everyone-can-get-stuffed Pre-75 or death attitude which is the first line of their constitution and engenders a strong line of defiance amongst a significant percentage of their members.
The relatively minor relaxation of this stance to include the pre-78 fields meets icy condemnation and little reception, so unless there's a significant alteration to this attitude, the pre-78 nats won't be getting allocated to WA anytime soon... 8)
More than one club in Perth though - the question is about the support of the one that could run it. Seems to me to be a fractured state of affairs in WA at present when once it was the example for us all.
I hold a strong view that if we are a true national sport then the location of the Nationals has to move from state to state however there is a reluctance to run it.
There are options if WA chooses not to have a go, for a bunch of guys that put in an amazing effort to attend long distances away it would be a shame to not have it in their back yard.


All true and as Dave knows from our conversations at the NATS.  But the information we were given prior to leaving for the Nats was the BSA Harley Club are putting in a bid to hold the event at the Noble Falls track (70kms from Perth) in September.  That's all the information we have and seeing as I have just landed back in the state I cannot confirm any thing else

Barry
Title: Re: 2015 pre 78 Nats
Post by: BA #63 on August 26, 2014, 09:29:55 am
if anyone can find out its you tossa
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Post by: Tossa on August 26, 2014, 10:03:35 am
if anyone can find out its you tossa

That came from the VMX club.  I asked what we could tell anyone if they inquired.  Anyway I want to have words with you, you bought an MX360A from SA when I was about to sell mine, damn!!lol
Title: Re: 2015 pre 78 Nats
Post by: Richo52 on August 26, 2014, 10:11:44 am
BSA club are certainly putting in a bid and I will definetly support that!!!!
Title: Re: 2015 pre 78 Nats
Post by: Freakshow on August 29, 2014, 02:08:41 pm
whoever gets it needs our support we need to be more positive towards the organizers SA have had it twice in three years which is good because it fair distance for east and west but if you want to add sidecars you must go west its been eight years since our last national event i am sure they can also accommodate for the pre 78 bikes WA is part of Australia so come over ;) ;)   

ummm not sure that's right CB was in 2011 so that would be 2 in 4 years... and prior to that it was like iPt Pirie in the 90s I think.....
Title: Re: 2015 pre 78 Nats
Post by: Freakshow on August 29, 2014, 02:10:40 pm
there are plenty or places in VIC and NSW that could and would host something.  its up to clubs and promototers if they want to follow them through.
Im prity sure I could get one up in VIC without much effort, so anyone could.   but you would have to let them run it.
Title: Re: 2015 pre 78 Nats
Post by: FourstrokeForever on August 29, 2014, 02:20:34 pm
There is really only one died in the wool pre78 club in Victoria. That's the Classic Scramble Club
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Post by: Ted on August 29, 2014, 02:59:02 pm
Is the BSA Harley Club a VMX club?
Title: Re: 2015 pre 78 Nats
Post by: Tossa on August 29, 2014, 03:11:18 pm
runs a regular pre85 class within the club
Title: Re: 2015 pre 78 Nats
Post by: albrid-3 on September 01, 2014, 10:10:39 pm
There is really only one died in the wool pre78 club in Victoria. That's the Classic Scramble Club

I think that will change soon.
Title: Re: 2015 pre 78 Nats
Post by: Slakewell on September 02, 2014, 07:04:42 am
Well if you can name one up and running track in NSW were you can hold the Pre 78 Nats I like to know were it is?
Title: Re: 2015 pre 78 Nats
Post by: Branchy on September 02, 2014, 08:09:54 am
from what i have seen heaven vmx nails it all the time all sorts of tracks all over the place , i salute you guys from heaven  8)
Title: Re: 2015 pre 78 Nats
Post by: Shaun G on September 02, 2014, 08:14:53 am
Absolutely HEAVEN could nail this.

Off the top of my head tracks could be;

Appin
Raymond Terrace
Cessnock
Maitland

Grass tracks that could be used include

Dargle
Portland
Picton
The one that Panorama club uses near Bathurst. Avonlea?

I'm sure there are others.

It would only take some determined organisers and some lateral thinking to run this in NSW.

Cheers
Shaun

Title: Re: 2015 pre 78 Nats
Post by: Slakewell on September 02, 2014, 08:46:13 am
The infrastructer needed for nats is different than that of club day.
Camping for one thing is needed so good showers and Toilets on site food etc.
The last time I went to Raymond Terrace it had jumps that scared the modern A graders. So the track owners have to be prepared for changes.
All problems can be solved if the club has the right driving force.
So were in NSW has a great track that suits Pre 78 has all the infrastructer and a great club to support it?

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Post by: 211 on September 02, 2014, 05:48:42 pm
be good to see NSW have a go - what about those Inverell meetings we had in the mid 90s - would be a great location......
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Post by: Ted on September 02, 2014, 05:57:13 pm
The infrastructer needed for nats is different than that of club day.
Camping for one thing is needed so good showers and Toilets on site food etc.
The last time I went to Raymond Terrace it had jumps that scared the modern A graders. So the track owners have to be prepared for changes.
All problems can be solved if the club has the right driving force.
So were in NSW has a great track that suits Pre 78 has all the infrastructer and a great club to support it?

Didn't your Pre 75 KTM run at the front of the pack at the first MR VMX at Raymond Terrace a couple of years ago Mick.

Pre 75 and Pre 80 bikes were all competing that day. I thought it was a great venue for VMX. Plenty of camping area, good pits, central location.

Title: Re: 2015 pre 78 Nats
Post by: SON on September 02, 2014, 07:22:48 pm
Nerong Ride Park
Wait until you see this venue
Title: Re: 2015 pre 78 Nats
Post by: Brian Watson on September 02, 2014, 08:35:01 pm
Don't forget that pre '78 also includes pre 60 - pre 75..we saw at Pt Augusta that the track wasn't really suited to pre 60.. it was vhard work on a 300lb british  monster...
Title: Re: 2015 pre 78 Nats
Post by: Ted on September 02, 2014, 08:42:26 pm
You guys deserve a medal. No mean feat getting around that track on them bikes. Very impressive.
Title: Re: 2015 pre 78 Nats
Post by: albrid-3 on September 02, 2014, 09:17:56 pm
Pre 78 National, the people who are preparing these tracks are not taking in consideration the pre 65-60, it should be in the constitution that Australia Vintage national Titles
should be natural terrain tracks only. and are to be know higher that 1mm. 
Title: Re: 2015 pre 78 Nats
Post by: supersenior 50 on September 02, 2014, 09:27:58 pm
The concrete freeway has bumps higher than 1mm
Title: Re: 2015 pre 78 Nats
Post by: Ted on September 02, 2014, 09:28:51 pm
 ;D
Title: Re: 2015 pre 78 Nats
Post by: albrid-3 on September 02, 2014, 10:09:01 pm
1m.1.5m they weren`t much higher than that back in the 60`s and 70`s.
Title: Re: 2015 pre 78 Nats
Post by: BA #63 on September 02, 2014, 11:53:56 pm
if you going to have mx titles with no jumps might as well call it flat track titles we don't need doubles and triples Crystal brook good example of great track 
Title: Re: 2015 pre 78 Nats
Post by: Slakewell on September 03, 2014, 07:09:45 am
be good to see NSW have a go - what about those Inverell meetings we had in the mid 90s - would be a great location......

Dave, Inverell does have a great location at Copetom dam that could meet the high standards needed. It can get very dusty with no rain thou. The big problem here is the club which is more or less now run for mini bikes. It's perfect grass track type terrian and a few jumps can be added NP. 
Title: Re: 2015 pre 78 Nats
Post by: Rossvickicampbell on September 03, 2014, 08:46:12 am
Narrogin - WA  :'(
Title: Re: 2015 pre 78 Nats
Post by: Slakewell on September 03, 2014, 10:04:55 am
Didn't your Pre 75 KTM run at the front of the pack at the first MR VMX at Raymond Terrace a couple of years ago Mick.

Pre 75 and Pre 80 bikes were all competing that day. I thought it was a great venue for VMX. Plenty of camping area, good pits, central location.

Not my bike Ted one of the Lewis Brothers bikes. I went to the Australian title round there for modern bikes and the jumps were very huge. I guess it would come down to the club who run events there and how much they would tame down the track. The Local guy who care takes there is a VMX fan. But as Im told they get hundreds of entries there just for club days so why go to alot of trouble to run the Nats and make less money? The new track layout does get very rutted which would suck on older bikes. It maybe just a problem that moderns causes thou? 
Title: Re: 2015 pre 78 Nats
Post by: Iain Cameron on January 17, 2015, 10:20:16 pm
bump