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Clubroom => General Discussion => Topic started by: albrid-3 on August 16, 2014, 03:07:00 pm
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I would like your input which bike would be a good choice to buy, and what to look for.
What is your choice and why.
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It comes down to the colour you like? Its hard to go wrong with any of them. I have owned and raced all of them except the PE.
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I've got an original bore PE175N and it's a cracking bike. I've also got an IT200N and it's also awesome. And I have an XR200 which is slower to ride but more fun. I've had KDX200 but not a fan of the green although the new owner raced it as recently as last weekend at the Conondale Classic and she loves it
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So get any of them or one of each :)
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Dave,
I would go for any of them except the XR because I prefer 2 strokes.
My decision would be based on availability of parts, which from my experience is as follows:
Suzuki PE's // Good Availability
Yamaha IT's // Limited Availability
Kawasaki KDX's // Seriously Limited Availability
When I ride there is a sea of blue with a scattering of everything else, would be good to see some more yellow and green in the mix, so for me it would have to be a Suzuki PE175, due to the fact that Suzuki still has lots of parts available.
Cheers
Jock
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I want a bike thats going to be reliable, i was also thinking of a PE 250, I like light weight bikes, I am not interested in race vinduro, just take my time and have some fun and enjoy the day.
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XR200. Cheap to buy, new parts easy to get, tons of used parts. Easy to ride, faster than you think. Veri exempt all years.
Look for streched noisy cam chains (only fit quality DID cam chains), oil burning and slipping kickstart gears.
Easily up graded to disk brake front ends.
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Buy my awesome old original PE175 then Dave :)
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I've owned PE175T, raced a KDX175, my pick now would be a PE175Z floater. The PE engines are strong & bullet-proof.
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Thats interesting jock on the IT/KDX limited availability what is your reason for that considering most vinduros r made up of ITs and quite a few KDX just on general parts or engine parts ? just considering an IT myself
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My preference is IT.
My current collection and still race bikes
IT175H
IT200L
IT250N
However nothing wrong with Suzuki PE's, good to see PE's getting a good wrap :)
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Buy my awesome old original PE175 then Dave :)
What price are you asking and what condition is it in.
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Thats interesting jock on the IT/KDX limited availability what is your reason for that considering most vinduros r made up of ITs and quite a few KDX just on general parts or engine parts ? just considering an IT myself
Mainly referring to vintage parts that are still available NEW from the manufacturer.
A lot of Yamaha IT parts are NLA (no longer available), same deal with the Kawasaki stuff, getting a bit thin on the ground. I have friends that have all makes and models at various stages of resto and out of all of the manufacturers that they buy parts from the one that they comment on as having good parts availability is Suzuki.
If you're willing to take good second hand parts then you can usually find someone wrecking out a parts bike, however sometimes you need NEW and sometimes new just isn't an option due to the manufacturer discontinuing the one little thing that you really, really need!
I've owned PE175T, raced a KDX175, my pick now would be a PE175Z floater. The PE engines are strong & bullet-proof.
I've always had a soft spot for these.
Great looking bike!
(http://pureenduro.free.fr/Div/PUB1/pub%20pe%20175%20Z%201/1982%20PE175Z_1.JPG)
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Cheers
Jock
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KDX200 and IT200 are MILES ahead of the rest (to ride).
KDX has the better motor and better handling, the IT has better brakes and suspension.
Good genuine plastics (particularly sidecovers) are the only bit of unobtanium for the KDX200A/B that I know of. DC's replicas are fine for a ride bike.
The two-valve XR200 is the only other one I'd consider, as per Dirtpilot's post.
Also add the aircooled KDX250 to the list - way better bike than the PE250.
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KDX200 and IT200 are MILES ahead of the rest (to ride).
KDX has the better motor and better handling, the IT has better brakes and suspension.
Good genuine plastics (particularly sidecovers) are the only bit of unobtanium for the KDX200A/B that I know of. DC's replicas are fine for a ride bike.
The two-valve XR200 is the only other one I'd consider, as per Dirtpilot's post.
Also add the aircooled KDX250 to the list - way better bike than the PE250.
I see you have a soft spot for GREEN Nathan! :)
How many beers did you sink after the 4DAY?
(http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r259/vmx247/nathans_zps27a2fdae.jpg)
Mighty effort that.
Cheers
Jock
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so, is pre 90 excepted now in the vinduro here in victoria
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so, is pre 90 excepted now in the vinduro here in victoria
Generally speaking, in VIC pre 90 is not accepted.
And.... we don't want to start a 'Pre-90' debate in this thread. Do we?
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Cookardinia Vinduro is in NSW, Holbrook (not far from VIC but still NSW), the format that has been decided is:
'25 Years or Older'
That means that this year you could enter with your 1989 model bike.
Cheers
Jock
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Buy my awesome old original PE175 then Dave :)
What price are you asking and what condition is it in.
Sent you a message in response to yours Dave :)
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so, is pre 90 excepted now in the vinduro here in victoria
This was one of the issues that was brought up at VERi's AGM at Harrow.
It was put to the members and it was very close to unanimous that VERi stay with Pre 85
There are some later models that are eligible and these have been listed on our website to try and make it clear for everyone.
Competitive Vinduro's was also put to the vote and it was also close to unanimous that VERi events stay non competitive.
Didn't you have a really nice IT 200 a couple of years ago Dave?
Why did you get rid of that one?
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XR200. Cheap to buy, new parts easy to get, tons of used parts. Easy to ride, faster than you think. Veri exempt all years.
Look for streched noisy cam chains (only fit quality DID cam chains), oil burning and slipping kickstart gears.
Easily up graded to disk brake front ends.
From all reports I've heard that the XR200's are a good option, but.... I just can't do the 4-stroke thing.
I've ridden one, it was good fun (just hold it flat stick the whole way round) but I long for the 2-stroke power delivery.
For all the XR lovers out there...
(http://i718.photobucket.com/albums/ww184/xr650r5/IMG-11.jpg)
(http://davesbikebrochures.weebly.com/uploads/4/8/4/5/4845046/495413_orig.jpg)
Pic courtesy of Dave's Bike Brochures: http://davesbikebrochures.weebly.com/
(http://davesbikebrochures.weebly.com/uploads/4/8/4/5/4845046/9733476_orig.jpg)
Pic courtesy of Dave's Bike Brochures: http://davesbikebrochures.weebly.com/
(http://davesbikebrochures.weebly.com/uploads/4/8/4/5/4845046/5382131_orig.jpg)
Pic courtesy of Dave's Bike Brochures: http://davesbikebrochures.weebly.com/
(http://davesbikebrochures.weebly.com/uploads/4/8/4/5/4845046/4384620_orig.jpg)
Pic courtesy of Dave's Bike Brochures: http://davesbikebrochures.weebly.com/
(http://davesbikebrochures.weebly.com/uploads/4/8/4/5/4845046/8323651_orig.jpg)
Pic courtesy of Dave's Bike Brochures: http://davesbikebrochures.weebly.com/
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Cheers
Jock
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I was just asking about pre 90, the ruling has been voted, end of story, pre 90 is not an issue, back to the thread, and the question that I have been asking, and the input has been rewarding.
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Dave, back in late 80s I had an XT250 the wolf in the street year model ( I know not a world beater) my mate had an XR200 around the same year as mine, both bikes had some work done, and weren't slowish. Side by side off the mark I would keep with him til middle of 4th, and he'd start pulling away. I never had a ride on his bike, tho. So can't compare.
I once took my IT490 to get serviced, and the mechanic there said he used to pit for a rider who raced the IT200, and told me to ditch the beast, and try to get one. Said it was a well balanced bike, with usable power, handled well, and I would not be disappointed. He also said the KDX200 was a choice bike as well.
I didn't know you could get PE parts, especially 175 parts, so readily. A few people who I know whom have owned them, reckoned it was a struggle for parts.
Good luck whichever you go Dave.
Cheers, Mark.