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Title: Parts Washer solvent question
Post by: MX? on August 02, 2014, 09:14:59 am
So I've gone and bought a small parts washer from Repco, I'm sure I read a post here ages ago about using kero as the solvent? but can't seem to find it now.
Actual approved solvent is "Water /Household detergent" but I doubt that's going to clean much.
What does the panel say?
Title: Re: Parts Washer question
Post by: sleepy on August 02, 2014, 09:33:22 am
I use this stuff.
http://www.blackwoods.com.au/part/03187388/cleaner-parts-wash-solvent-septone-20lt

Water and detergent!!! Yuk.
Title: Re: Parts Washer solvent question
Post by: MX? on August 02, 2014, 09:46:27 am
Does it last in the tank OK...or "evaporate into dryness"  as the brochure says.  ;D
Title: Re: Parts Washer solvent question
Post by: 80-85 husky on August 02, 2014, 09:47:33 am
kero is acceptable.... works well and washes clean
Title: Re: Parts Washer solvent question
Post by: sleepy on August 02, 2014, 10:05:50 am
Does it last in the tank OK...or "evaporate into dryness"  as the brochure says.  ;D
Yes it does last well. The claim that it evaporates into dryness is a bit of a stretch as it takes quite some time. I normally blow it of with air and then let the parts sit for a while if not in a hurry or hose them with water then air blower dry them after the solvent wash.

Kero is a lot harder on the skin and is a lot more flammable than the septone stuff but probably cheaper. I have seen guy's use petrol in them but they are nuts.
Title: Re: Parts Washer solvent question
Post by: pancho on August 02, 2014, 11:06:28 am
Does it last in the tank OK...or "evaporate into dryness"  as the brochure says.  ;D
Yes it does last well. The claim that it evaporates into dryness is a bit of a stretch as it takes quite some time. I normally blow it of with air and then let the parts sit for a while if not in a hurry or hose them with water then air blower dry them after the solvent wash.

Kero is a lot harder on the skin and is a lot more flammable than the septone stuff but probably cheaper. I have seen guy's use petrol in them but they are nuts.
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Kero is rough on the skin. Check the price of the Proper cleaner fluid, it's about the same price as kero.Some blokes are happy with diesel but I dont like it. Even its not much cheaper than the trade stuff, which I'm sure you can get from Repco in 20L. containers or from fuel depots. I haven't checked Super-con. cheers
Title: Re: Parts Washer solvent question
Post by: KTM47 on August 02, 2014, 01:49:03 pm
Shell have a kero that they say is for parts washers.  I think it is called narrow cut or something like that.  Moto National sell it they are the Shell Advance M/C oil distributor.  Check their website.  http://www.motonational.com.au/ (http://www.motonational.com.au/)

The other choice is some from Hare and Forbes http://www.machineryhouse.com.au/Home (http://www.machineryhouse.com.au/Home)
They have a water based solvent for parts washers.
Title: Re: Parts Washer solvent question
Post by: pmc57 on August 02, 2014, 04:34:42 pm
This place also has the Septone product plus heaps of other stuff. Located in Brisbane, Toowoomba, West Sydney and Bathurst
 https://www.bolt.com.au/high-five-20l-p-3823.html
Title: Re: Parts Washer solvent question
Post by: marshallmech on August 02, 2014, 09:54:06 pm
Kero is actually abrasive the best and the worst is petrol
Title: Re: Parts Washer solvent question
Post by: marshallmech on August 02, 2014, 09:56:09 pm
Colt fire arms use heated petrol as the final wash of there guns prior to blueing as it removes all trace of oil grime etc
Title: Re: Parts Washer solvent question
Post by: MX? on August 02, 2014, 10:04:04 pm
Thanks all...after much consternation I went with good ole Kero. :o
Title: Re: Parts Washer solvent question
Post by: BAHNZY on August 02, 2014, 10:36:38 pm
For what it's worth....
If the container has a drain in the bottom, place a couple of Lt's of water in the drum with the kero making sure it's below the pump pick up and leave it for a couple of days. As water is heavier than kero and it doesn't mix with the kero, it will separate and the crap that is held in the kero will fall out of suspension and sit in the water, not in your kero and the kero will last a last longer and stay cleaner. As there is a drain, you can drain the water off with the crap and dispose in a much more environmentally better means. The main trick with a bike parts cleaner is to not use it to clean your air filters. Oil filter oil contaminates parts washers in no time at all.
Title: Re: Parts Washer solvent question
Post by: MX? on August 02, 2014, 10:57:02 pm
For what it's worth....
If the container has a drain in the bottom, place a couple of Lt's of water in the drum with the kero making sure it's below the pump pick up and leave it for a couple of days. As water is heavier than kero and it doesn't mix with the kero, it will separate and the crap that is held in the kero will fall out of suspension and sit in the water, not in your kero and the kero will last a last longer and stay cleaner. As there is a drain, you can drain the water off with the crap and dispose in a much more environmentally better means. The main trick with a bike parts cleaner is to not use it to clean your air filters. Oil filter oil contaminates parts washers in no time at all.
Sounds like a good idea...will try that.
Title: Re: Parts Washer solvent question
Post by: 80-85 husky on August 03, 2014, 08:45:25 am
I worked at Wayne Leonards in qland years ago and they had a 44 drum setup like that. full of water but with a foot of kero on top and colander set up so it sat in the kero and as you washed all the poo sank into the water. every so often they would siphon out the kero and water into a new drum and send the full one to the tip (long time ago...no recyclers)
Title: Re: Parts Washer solvent question
Post by: Ted on August 03, 2014, 08:55:14 am
Thanks all...after much consternation I went with good ole Kero. :o

You did go with odorless kero didn't you?
Title: Re: Parts Washer solvent question
Post by: MX? on August 03, 2014, 09:29:54 am
Ummmm, no?
I got "Blue liquid with a mild odour "  ::)
Title: Re: Parts Washer solvent question
Post by: Ted on August 03, 2014, 09:32:08 am
Ventilate your shed then.
Title: Re: Parts Washer solvent question
Post by: MX? on August 03, 2014, 10:07:06 am
You think it'll be that bad?
I haven't opened the drum yet....might get a price on the odorless first perhaps?
Title: Re: Parts Washer solvent question
Post by: Ted on August 03, 2014, 10:58:30 am
I use Solvent d80 mixed 50/50 with water. Lasts forever, extremely high flashpoint, if any and does the job easy.

I wouldn't use straight Kerosine in my shed. It stinks and is dangerous.

Whatever you use, never top it up with petrol.