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Title: Yamaha DS6
Post by: albrid-3 on May 18, 2014, 02:51:41 pm
(http://i943.photobucket.com/albums/ad275/albrid3/DS6Ignition001.jpg) (http://s943.photobucket.com/user/albrid3/media/DS6Ignition001.jpg.html)

Need some help, does anybody know how to remove this ignition system, I have taken two screws out and the centre bolt, what else do I need to do.  the engine is a yamaha DS6 twin.
thank you.
Title: Re: Yamaha DS6
Post by: Lozza on May 18, 2014, 03:28:48 pm
Taken the screws at 4 and 10 o'clock out?
Title: Re: Yamaha DS6
Post by: OverTheHill on May 18, 2014, 05:05:59 pm
haven't worked on one since they were new, but, sounds like you've undone the two stator screws plus the bolt so did the points cam come off? [out], if not, then maybe a light tap to free it up. Once cam is removed then the stator [held by the two long screws] should come away with minimal effort. Stator's probably located by a peg or pin just to get it in the right place for the screws to locate. [think that's right]. By the way, the armature will still be stuck on it's taper to the crank--]tryin ta think back] probably a longish bolt with an equally long unthreaded piece slightly smaller than the thread sticking off end of the bolt which goes right down to the end of the hole--something like that lol.
Title: Re: Yamaha DS6
Post by: OverTheHill on May 18, 2014, 05:11:20 pm
forgot--armature carbon brushes will need to be pulled back & let the brush springs sit against their sides to hold them there. That's if it's a brush type [whadaya call it] dc system instead of an ordinary alternator [no brushes], like my LS2 100 twin.
Title: Re: Yamaha DS6
Post by: albrid-3 on May 18, 2014, 05:25:03 pm
I will give it a try, I have bought a PVL system for it. Thank you.
Title: Re: Yamaha DS6
Post by: oldfart on May 18, 2014, 05:28:46 pm
Is the sprocket nut welded on  ????
Title: Re: Yamaha DS6
Post by: OverTheHill on May 18, 2014, 05:29:08 pm
http://pdn1.vnexttech.com/yam/mcy/1970/ds6c_ds6b/d_c_generator/assembly_files/10/2_1.png
not sure if this link will work but shows the plate that the centre bolt goes through coming off just as 'the plate' minus the points cam and looks like the cam is part of the armature.
Title: Re: Yamaha DS6
Post by: albrid-3 on May 18, 2014, 05:51:49 pm
(http://i943.photobucket.com/albums/ad275/albrid3/AscotScrambler1963.jpg) (http://s943.photobucket.com/user/albrid3/media/AscotScrambler1963.jpg.html)

This is the machine that I am building.
Title: Re: Yamaha DS6
Post by: Hoony on May 18, 2014, 06:42:04 pm
Nice Dave....what year & Capacity are they?
Title: Re: Yamaha DS6
Post by: albrid-3 on May 18, 2014, 07:42:10 pm
(http://i943.photobucket.com/albums/ad275/albrid3/AscotScrambler1963.jpg) (http://s943.photobucket.com/user/albrid3/media/AscotScrambler1963.jpg.html)

This is the machine that I am building.
Hoony, YDS2 is 1964-65 model.
Title: Re: Yamaha DS6
Post by: Iain Cameron on May 18, 2014, 07:51:57 pm
Also called the Ascot for sale in the US
Title: Re: Yamaha DS6
Post by: OverTheHill on May 18, 2014, 09:51:34 pm
now i'm confused [make that old n confused] looks like YDS2/3? no worries, like to hear how she goes when finished. Think DS6 had clutch on the gearbox mainshaft not the crank plus sort of squarish cylinder finning, sort of a TZ or TR roadracer for-runner--road version [someone will correct me]. Thought they were great bikes [& great times] Watching MOTO GP live on 'free view' tv, woohoo.
Title: Re: Yamaha DS6
Post by: albrid-3 on May 19, 2014, 04:29:27 am
yes, your right.
Title: Re: Yamaha DS6
Post by: albrid-3 on May 19, 2014, 09:45:38 pm
(http://i943.photobucket.com/albums/ad275/albrid3/rotor002.jpg) (http://s943.photobucket.com/user/albrid3/media/rotor002.jpg.html)

I got the outer off, whats the best way to take this off without damaging it
Title: Re: Yamaha DS6
Post by: Iain Cameron on May 19, 2014, 10:29:46 pm
Dave is there a thread inside the shaft , don't Quote me but I seem to remember that there was a bolt that went in but was too big to fit into the crank but as you wound it in it pushed the flywheel off (like a flywheel pusher . Iain . ps the same princible  was used on the DT125 elec start too
Title: Re: Yamaha DS6
Post by: albrid-3 on May 19, 2014, 10:36:55 pm
Thanks Iain I will check it out.
Title: Re: Yamaha DS6
Post by: yamaico on May 19, 2014, 10:42:54 pm
Dave, from memory you use one of the engine mounting bolts. See if you can find one that screws into the thread of the rotor which will be bigger than the thread in the end of the crank. Once you have it screwed in and have a bit of weight on it give the head of the bolt a sharp hit with a copper hammer and it should pop off. If it's tight just leave it with weight on it and give it a hit every time you walk past it - it'll come off eventually,
Pete.
Title: Re: Yamaha DS6
Post by: albrid-3 on May 19, 2014, 11:20:04 pm
I tried it but nothing happen, i will persist with it. Thanks for your help.
Title: Re: Yamaha DS6
Post by: SON on May 19, 2014, 11:38:40 pm
Try loading the bolt with a large spanner as you give it a good tap