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Title: NSW enduro guns of the early 80's
Post by: 80-85 husky on May 14, 2014, 10:43:33 am: anyone know who were the experts of the time? what they rode

im thinking 1980 - 1985

Im "Shultz" about the NSW series at the time (I know nuuuthing!)

is there a source I can get summaries of the series??

cheers
Title: Re: NSW enduro guns of the early 80's
Post by: Slakewell on May 14, 2014, 11:00:04 am: Avard , Smith brothers , Hall, Flanagan ( when sober ) Lovett ( when he turned up )
Title: Re: NSW enduro guns of the early 80's
Post by: Ted on May 14, 2014, 12:01:52 pm: Cater Eldridge Ballard Haskins
Title: Re: NSW enduro guns of the early 80's
Post by: smed on May 14, 2014, 12:59:32 pm: Quote from: Slakewell on May 14, 2014, 11:00:04 am
Avard , Smith brothers , Flanagan

These guys may have been around then but were more prominent from 85ish on ;) Lovett yes :)

Old Trail & Track's & ADB's from 80-85 would be a good place to start looking,Plus what Ted said ;)
Title: Re: NSW enduro guns of the early 80's
Post by: Slakewell on May 14, 2014, 01:10:23 pm: Quote from: Ted on May 14, 2014, 12:01:52 pm
Cater Eldridge Ballard Haskins
I never considered Cater or Eldridge to be Pro's in there day and my faded memory was Ballard was in the states. Cater talked like a pro but was never anything like the pace of Ballard , Avard etc
Title: Re: NSW enduro guns of the early 80's
Post by: 80-85 husky on May 14, 2014, 02:27:07 pm: who was Mr Cunningham?
Title: Re: NSW enduro guns of the early 80's
Post by: Nathan S on May 14, 2014, 02:35:27 pm: Dave McDonnell.
Alan Spencer.
Laurie Alderton.
Hans Applegren.
Murray Watt.

Alan Cunninghan? Later won the Safari.
Title: Re: NSW enduro guns of the early 80's
Post by: Ted on May 14, 2014, 02:56:52 pm: Quote from: Slakewell on May 14, 2014, 01:10:23 pm
Quote from: Ted on May 14, 2014, 12:01:52 pm
Cater Eldridge Ballard Haskins
I never considered Cater or Eldridge to be Pro's in there day and my faded memory was Ballard was in the states. Cater talked like a pro but was never anything like the pace of Ballard , Avard etc

Chris Cater..... Good enough to be in the ISDE though....you betcha

He talked the talk alright but he also walked the walk. Australian barefoot waterski champion. Easily the best and biggest earner in his work life in the building industry. Far and away the best organiser at a bike meet. He could talk , yep, but he could also back it up.
Title: Re: NSW enduro guns of the early 80's
Post by: Slakewell on May 14, 2014, 04:14:52 pm: Ted in regards to Cater
The only thing you needed to be on the ISDE team Australia in the 80's was enough money to go. But saying that earning a finishing medal at such events is a huge thing.
He does have good origination skills but just being the loudest voice in a group of people working hard dosent make you the leader or the best person for the job. Yes I have Co run events with him. I have raced him and trail ridden with the guy. I do not seek his company or offer him beer.
Title: Re: NSW enduro guns of the early 80's
Post by: Mike52 on May 14, 2014, 04:54:40 pm: There was bunches of them came out of Northern NSW to race in Southern QLD.
Steven Grant , the KTM guys from Woolgoolga and lots more that I forget.
Names will be here.
http://forum.ozvmx.com/index.php?topic=13457.0
Title: Re: NSW enduro guns of the early 80's
Post by: smed on May 14, 2014, 05:53:34 pm: Not NSW championships as such but the 81 broken hill 4 day,with a few New South Welshmen at the pointy end :),not many finishers or not many starters :-\

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Title: Re: NSW enduro guns of the early 80's
Post by: smed on May 14, 2014, 05:57:29 pm: If B Smith 2nd in the 175 class is Brett then I stand corrected,apologies Slakey :)
Title: Re: NSW enduro guns of the early 80's
Post by: 80-85 husky on May 14, 2014, 06:11:06 pm: Got him...A Cunynghame, silver in the 350 class....that would be on the MotoVilla.... anyone know him?
Title: Re: NSW enduro guns of the early 80's
Post by: smed on May 14, 2014, 06:22:03 pm: Allan Cunynghame as Nathan said won the Safari one year, I think he owned a bike shop in Goulburn sometime in the past,maybe still does.dunno :)
Title: Re: NSW enduro guns of the early 80's
Post by: Graeme M on May 14, 2014, 06:50:00 pm: How about Honest Muzz?

Kel Wearne was around in the late 70s, though not sure how quick he was.
Title: Re: NSW enduro guns of the early 80's
Post by: oldyzman on May 14, 2014, 06:53:29 pm: I see Hans Appleglen name appeared on team Husky for the 4 day...
Brett
Title: Re: NSW enduro guns of the early 80's
Post by: 80-85 husky on May 14, 2014, 06:54:33 pm: had a few beers with honest Muz at the Condobolin enduro in 1984. The vic boys took 4 inches of rain with them and took home the teams trophy. it was a shame when he left ADB, he had a great sense of humour!!

a friend has a moto villa 350 that was supposedly Alan Cunynghame's bike, trying to track him down. Any assistance? (this is for those that only read the last posting ;D)
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Post by: jerry on May 14, 2014, 06:55:20 pm: Speaking of which is Kel still around? J
Title: Re: NSW enduro guns of the early 80's
Post by: Ted on May 14, 2014, 07:04:15 pm: Quote from: 80-85 husky on May 14, 2014, 06:54:33 pm
had a few beers with honest Muz at the Condobolin enduro in 1984. The vic boys took 4 inches of rain with them and took home the teams trophy. it was a shame when he left ADB, he had a great sense of humour!!

a friend has a moto villa 350 that was supposedly Alan Cunynghame's bike, trying to track him down. Any assistance? (this is for those that only read the last posting ;D)

Alan had a bike shop in Bathurst or Orange, can't remember. He may still be there. He used to campaign a XR 350. This is what he was riding when I used to ride with him in early eighties. He was hanging around my sister in law. Shhhh.
Title: Re: NSW enduro guns of the early 80's
Post by: JohnnyO on May 14, 2014, 07:05:46 pm: Jeff Dawson is another gun from Northern NSW.
Alan Cunyngham had a bike shop in Bathurst..
Title: Re: NSW enduro guns of the early 80's
Post by: HVA61 on May 14, 2014, 07:08:36 pm: Hans was the Husky team and geez that Chris Cater could punt a bike along and for that matter still can. Outstanding alround sportsman and top bloke that one.

Is anyone aware that Hans Appleglen just completed the London to Sydney marathon in his vintage volvo. Finished well with his brother as navigator. Another top fellow who is still very fast on a dirt bike.
Title: Re: NSW enduro guns of the early 80's
Post by: dalesween on May 14, 2014, 07:14:25 pm: Murray Tainton?

cheers Dale.
Title: Re: NSW enduro guns of the early 80's
Post by: Nathan S on May 14, 2014, 07:18:36 pm: Murray was always a Victorian?!
Title: Re: NSW enduro guns of the early 80's
Post by: Ekka on May 14, 2014, 07:41:56 pm: Mike Sheaer is another one husky rider
Title: Re: NSW enduro guns of the early 80's
Post by: Nathan S on May 14, 2014, 07:57:21 pm: Quote from: HVA61 on May 14, 2014, 07:08:36 pm
Is anyone aware that Hans Appleglen just completed the London to Sydney marathon in his vintage volvo. Finished well with his brother as navigator. Another top fellow who is still very fast on a dirt bike.

Missed that - but am impressed.
I had a very, very small part in John Henderson's prep.
Title: Re: NSW enduro guns of the early 80's
Post by: HVA61 on May 15, 2014, 06:55:54 am: My business partner Rossco is mates with Hendo through the rally club and our company Engineered Environments was one of the Team Hendo Volvo sponsors for the LTSM.
Title: Re: NSW enduro guns of the early 80's
Post by: 80-85 husky on May 15, 2014, 10:34:56 am: picked this up of the net
500 cc Class
350 Kothe, Uwe DDR VEB Motorradwerke/ MZ T,F Zschopau
351 Schutz, Werner D Maico Werke Maico T,F
352 Croci, Gianangelo I KTM T,F
353 Rossel, Manfred D ADAC Nurnberg I Maico C
354 Zloch, Stanislav CS Jawa T,F
355 Kampflein, Erich D DMV Fankfurt II KTM C
356 Stodulka, Jiri CS Jawa T,F
357 Love, Howard ZA Kawasaki
358 de Petri, Alessandro I Puch F
359 Stech mann, Werner D ADAC Hamburg Yamaha C
360 Kalberer, Walter CH KTM Schweiz KTM T
361 Mas, Carlos E Montesa V,F
362 Williams, Ken GB Bultaco C
363 Cunynghame, Allan AUS Can Am T
364 Kunel, Peter D ADAC Nurnberg II KTM C
365 Andreini, Guglielmo I SWM T,F
366 Sutton, Frank CDN Can Am F
367 Gallo, Frank USA KTM T,F
368 Hallberg, Andreas S Husqvarna C
369 Alderton, Laurie AUS Maico V
370 Wuillemin, Samual CH SWM V
371 Back, Bjorn S Husqvarna C
372 Niemann, Bansch ZA Kawasaki F
373 Bakken, A.C. USA Husqvarna C
374 Pujol, Eduardo E Montesa C
375 Howe, Craig CDN Can Am F
376 Piella, Jose E SWM l;F
377 Marimon, Jorge E Montesa T,F
378 Hill, Jeff USA KTM F
379 Schroyen, Pierre B KTM T
380 Schramm, S NL SWM F
381 Rottigni, Pierluigi I SWM C
382 Dwinger, Jens D ADAC Kiel Husqvarna C
383 Reese, Denny USA Yamaha C
384 Moreno, Guilermo E SWM T,F
385 Gronberg, Per S Maico T
386 Moreno, Augusto E SWM C
387 Edlung, Dag S Husqvarna V
388 Fishback, Jim USA Yamaha F
389 Watt, Jan ZA Kawasaki F
390 Laureati, Pierluigi I KTM C
391 Osterberg, Ingemar S Husqvarna C
392 Pujol, Jose E Bultaco T
393 May, John Hnery GB KTM T
394 Riudalbas, Juan E Bultaco V
395 Thomsson, Tommy S Laverda C
396 Kauler, Jaroslav CS Ruda Hvezda, Prag Jawa C
397 Hamilton, Jim CDN Yamaha T
398 Jansson, Tommy S HV A C
399 Flodberg, Anders S Maico V
400 McKee, Robert GB Can Am C
401 Cranke, Carl USA SWM F
402 Lindbom, Bosse S Husqvarna F
403 Lebsinger, Hans A KTM T
404 Goddard, Edward James AUS Can Am V
405 Edmond, Garry USA Suzuki F
406 Bures, Ramon E Montesa <;:
407 Brick, Calan GB Maico C
408 Hay, Trevor GB KTM C
409 Burleson, Richard USA Husqvarna T,F
410 Auge, Luis E Bultaco C
411 Cukavai:, Walter CDN Can Am T
412 Pokorny,Miroslav CS Jawa V,F
413 Zell, Nils-Erik S Husqvarna T
414 Glavitza, Erich A KTM V
415 Scheffler, Jens DDRVEB Motorradwerke/ MZ T,F Tschopau
416 Erlandson, Hakan S Husqvarna F
417 Gil, Fernando E Montesa C
418 Jarledal, Per Olof S Husqvarna C
419 Ayers, John USA Maico F
420 Larsson, Lars MEX Husqvarna C
421 Skoldhammer, Ken. ZA Kawasaki F
422 Capper, David GB Can Am C
423 Farmer, Bruce AUS KTM C
424 Browning,ArthurKen. GB KTM T
425 Vanwatermeulen, Steve USA Maico F
426 Kennedy, Craig CDN Husqvarna V
427 Jansson, Torbjorn S Husqvarna T
428 Pohl, Hans-Werner D ADAC Koln SWM C
429 Promberger, Rudolf A KTM T
430 Marsinach, Antonio E Montesa V,F
431 Roessler, Larry USA Husqvarna T,F
432 yon Rotz, John CH KTM C
433 Fox, Douglas GB Maico C
434 Laber, Karl-Heinz 0 ADAC Karlsruhe Maico C
435 Knight, John GB KTM T
436 Markowitz, Max USA SWM
437 Fisher, Lance AUS KTM C
438 Watt, Murray AUS Husqvarna F
Title: Re: NSW enduro guns of the early 80's
Post by: HeavenVMX on May 15, 2014, 12:20:57 pm: The list is an interesting mix of bikes must have been late 70s (1978-1980) with Bultaco still in there I guess.
18 KTM
16 Husky
10 SWM
10 Maico
7 Can Am
6 Montesa
4 Bultaco, Yamaha, Kawsaki & Jawa
2 MZ
1 Suzuki, Laverda, Puch, HV?

NO Honda??

AND YES I am bored to spend the time counting ;D
Title: Re: NSW enduro guns of the early 80's
Post by: GMC on May 15, 2014, 12:27:15 pm: I was noticing the US entries, what event was it John?
Title: Re: NSW enduro guns of the early 80's
Post by: oldyzman on May 15, 2014, 05:03:49 pm: Funny thing,
My mums friends husband came to our riding ranch a few years back for a bit of a put around, Mum said he was an oil distributor for bikes, he had this squeeky clean husky with moose tubes. Had a good afternoon. Anyway we found out later who he was, the guy turned out to be Hans Appleglen.
Brett
Title: Re: NSW enduro guns of the early 80's
Post by: VMX Andrew on May 15, 2014, 05:28:29 pm: Alan West rings a bell.
Pretty sure he owned a Honda dealership in Coffs Harbour too.
Quote from: JohnnyO on May 14, 2014, 07:05:46 pm
Jeff Dawson is another gun from Northern NSW.
Raced against this dude at a local Pony express in 1990 a he blew everyone into the weeds.
Title: Re: NSW enduro guns of the early 80's
Post by: 80-85 husky on May 15, 2014, 06:41:33 pm: JD was a gun, no boubt adout that
Title: Re: NSW enduro guns of the early 80's
Post by: JohnnyO on May 15, 2014, 08:24:55 pm: Quote from: VMX Andrew on May 15, 2014, 05:28:29 pm
Alan West rings a bell.
Pretty sure he owned a Honda dealership in Coffs Harbour too.
Quote from: JohnnyO on May 14, 2014, 07:05:46 pm
Jeff Dawson is another gun from Northern NSW.
Raced against this dude at a local Pony express in 1990 a he blew everyone into the weeds.
Jeff is still fast now!
Alan West rode a trick C&J Honda back in the early 80's..
Title: Re: NSW enduro guns of the early 80's
Post by: TooFastTim on May 16, 2014, 07:12:18 am: Quote from: 80-85 husky on May 15, 2014, 10:34:56 am
picked this up of the net
357 Love, Howard ZA Kawasaki

Now that's an interesting one (off topic here). A while ago I managed to become one with a tree at high speed. When in hospital I had a physio who was an absolute dish named Collette Love, anyway she treated me very well. Beers with mates in hospital was ok) but she treated the bloke next to me like crap. He'd had a road bike crash when pissed and asked about her attitude to him and me. She said that I was enjoying a healthy outdoor sport when I had an accident. No different from a rugby player. Whereas my neighbour was a wat. She also said her dad rode enduros. You've just filled in the missing piece. Thanks.
Title: Re: NSW enduro guns of the early 80's
Post by: Mike52 on May 16, 2014, 07:27:12 am: Check the names here and check the DNF's. Many names on here that you would recognize today.
Note that Gavin McLeod came 2nd in the under 250's on a XR200. Insane.
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Title: Re: NSW enduro guns of the early 80's
Post by: Slakewell on May 16, 2014, 07:57:19 am: Wow what a cool list see lots of names on there old team mates and guys I rode with thanks for the post.
Title: Re: NSW enduro guns of the early 80's
Post by: 80-85 husky on May 17, 2014, 11:27:06 am: That is a who who allright... cheers