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Title: Maxima Racing Oils & BOLT ~ 2014 Australian Post Classic Championships
Post by: supersenior 50 on February 25, 2014, 10:47:45 pm
Sup regs out, entries being accepted, rules as per 2014 MOMs.
Directly related posts only please.
Title: Re: 2014 Post Classic National Championship fact thread
Post by: DR500 on February 25, 2014, 11:00:01 pm
Can you get a day licence or do you need a full MA licence for this event?
Title: Re:2014 Maxima/BOLT Australian Post Classic Motocross Championships fact thread
Post by: Mod1 on February 25, 2014, 11:19:33 pm
https://www.nominate.com.au/mcycle/event.asp?event=419&eventlist=12


Anyone interested in sponsoring a class or the event can email me on   qvmxmarketing@hotmail.com or ring me on  0412 747 729. As a sponsor you will get a great position in the pit's, a special sponsors polo shirt, advertising in the program, name on posters and the commentator will splash your name/business over the track on the race days.....you'll also be helping our sport/hobby by making this, the still first ever Post Classic Nat's a great success.....and it will be. Anyone who wants to have a trade stand can contact me also. Hope to see you all there.
Some classes are already spoken for....many thanks....
EVO 125  Ted Brack....Linsdale Trust....Dry wall fixings......ph  0407 004 473   a great bloke
EVO 250   on hold....a maybe
EVO 500
PRE85 125
PRE85 250 JP Coaching 
PRE85 500
PRE90 125
PRE90 250 CD Escavationns   Craig Wills  0409 494 421
PRE90 500
WOMEN up to PRE90  Currumbin Garden Centre....Steve Row....ph    07 55256588
SIDECARS
EVO AGE GROUP
16 to 29
30 to 39
40 to 49
50 to 59
60 to 69
Super Seniors [hero's] Eagle Boy's Nambour and Eagle Boy's Pacific Paradise....Craig Simpson.
Once again, many thanks.


For anyone entering if you wish to get your own transponder this is a link to Mylaps http://www.mylaps.com/en/products/mx-flex-transponder/77 (http://www.mylaps.com/en/products/mx-flex-transponder/77).  If you have your own transponder you can get extra brackets and use the one transponder for more than one bike.  However if you do that, the responsibility for changing the transponder between machines rests with you only.
If you are hiring the transponder/s you must hire one for each class entered.  $15.00 each class.
Please note entry is $150.00 plus $5.00 / rider for scoring, plus $15.00 for hire of transponder.  Total $170.00.  For each extra class it is $20.00 plus $15.00 for extra transponder.  Total $35.00.  If you have your own transponder you save $15.00 for each class.  Your own transponder is registered to you and permits you to access extra information from Mylaps.
Kevin



The correct name of the Championships is
2014 Maxima/BOLT Australian Post Classic Motocross Championships
Please support the sponsors who support us.  Maxima Racing Oils and BOLT Motorcycle Hardware.
www.stevecramerproducts.com.au (http://www.stevecramerproducts.com.au)
www.proaccessories.com.au/ (http://www.proaccessories.com.au/)
Thanks Steve, Andrew and Greg



I am pleased to advise everyone that the Sup regs for the
2014 Post Classic Motocross Championships FRIDAY 25 APRIL - SUNDAY 27 APRIL 2014
can be found on our club website www.qvmx.com.au
Regards Brian Fox
Secretary QVMX


http://www.boltmotorcyclehardware.com/distributors/
Title: Re: 2014 Post Classic National Championship fact thread
Post by: Davey Crocket on February 26, 2014, 12:18:12 am
DR500, you need to apply to get an "open" 1 day licence (it will last for the weekend) at least 3 weeks prior.....do it mate, it will be a hell of a meeting to attend, lots of guy's that where the Aussie champs back in the day are racing this event.....if you didn't get to race them in the late 70's and through the 1980's, well, here's your chance. We had a club day there [ECHO Valley] last September and there wasn't a face without a smile on it  :).....When you see 40 500cc 2 strokes racing to that first corner you will have goose bumps. I hope to see you there...cheers John.
edited
Title: Re: 2014 Post Classic National Championship fact thread
Post by: Davey Crocket on February 26, 2014, 12:23:28 am
Can we change the heading please so the naming right's sponsors get some credit.
"The Maxima Racing Oils and <BOLT> 2014 Australian Post Classic Championships".....cheers
Done
Title: Re: Maxima Racing Oils & BOLT ~ 2014 Australian Post Classic Championships
Post by: foxy999 on February 26, 2014, 07:32:34 am
QVMX advise the Eligibility Scrutineer for the 2014 Post Classic Motocross Championship is David Tanner. For any further information regarding this event please head to our website www.qvmx.com.au contact details regarding your Eligibility queries are on the web site. Questions regarding bikes and eligibility will be kept off the forum for clarity and will be answered in a timely manner.

 
References and comments regarding 2014 Post Classic Motocross Championship on this forum are not necessarily endorsed by QVMX unless posted by the Club Secretary.

Entry forms can be also accessed via our website.
 
Regards

Brian Fox
Secretary QVMX
Title: Re: Maxima Racing Oils & BOLT ~ 2014 Australian Post Classic Championships
Post by: VMX247 on February 27, 2014, 01:59:00 pm
(http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r259/vmx247/CCI26022014_00000_zps9692faf6.jpg) (http://s146.photobucket.com/user/vmx247/media/CCI26022014_00000_zps9692faf6.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Maxima Racing Oils & BOLT ~ 2014 Australian Post Classic Championships
Post by: KTM47 on March 05, 2014, 03:31:23 pm
Please Note:  Anyone wanting to enter using a $77.00 Senior One Meeting Licence.  Please contact your State Controlling Body ASAP.  These licences may take longer than 21 days to arrange.
Title: Re: Maxima Racing Oils & BOLT ~ 2014 Australian Post Classic Championships
Post by: VMX247 on March 10, 2014, 08:11:34 pm
Ok the MR MX Legends and Stars Charity Dinner is over.......

8)  :D  Lets get back to racin   :D  8)
Title: Re: Maxima Racing Oils & BOLT ~ 2014 Australian Post Classic Championships
Post by: popeye on March 11, 2014, 10:43:13 am
????????????? how are the entries going, must get mine in by the way, sidecar and solo.....

MR FOX, MR TATE are we having a working bee to help sort the track out? Or is Toowoomba club doing all the work????
Title: Re: Maxima Racing Oils & BOLT ~ 2014 Australian Post Classic Championships
Post by: foxy999 on March 11, 2014, 07:20:49 pm
at this stage all under control. will be going up Easter weekend to review it all. may need some help the Friday of the event. who is sponsoring the side cars, pits with a view over the track going real quick...   8)
Title: Re: Maxima Racing Oils & BOLT ~ 2014 Australian Post Classic Championships
Post by: Ted on March 11, 2014, 07:29:06 pm
I can help Friday
Title: Re: Maxima Racing Oils & BOLT ~ 2014 Australian Post Classic Championships
Post by: foxy999 on March 11, 2014, 09:48:03 pm
All help will be greatly appreciated .
Title: Re: Maxima Racing Oils & BOLT ~ 2014 Australian Post Classic Championships
Post by: popeye on March 12, 2014, 08:02:57 am
I'm going to trail ride to the event if any one is keen, on the Friday, I will be leaving Harrisville around 7 am, no hard stuff but a good ride just the same, plenty of fuel on the way so you don't need a big range....   It will be about 130-140klms long and take around 3-4 hrs...
Title: Re: Maxima Racing Oils & BOLT ~ 2014 Australian Post Classic Championships
Post by: EML on March 17, 2014, 03:59:37 pm
seems to me we aren't paying the good people at MQ enough dough.
They take up to 3 weeks to electronically print a 1 day license and can't put the regs up on their own page.
So, using that as a yard stick, they sound like budding pollies and so must need more cash to make it swing.
WTF WTF WTF WTF WTF WTF TWF....................................................WTF WTF WTF WTF WTF WTF!!!!!
Title: Re: Maxima Racing Oils & BOLT ~ 2014 Australian Post Classic Championships
Post by: Nathan S on March 17, 2014, 04:15:39 pm
Can't you just fill out the forms and send them in regardless?

That way, when MQ finally figures it all out, they can't blame you for not applying for the licence in time...
Title: Re: Maxima Racing Oils & BOLT ~ 2014 Australian Post Classic Championships
Post by: popeye on March 17, 2014, 09:40:46 pm
Still no word on how many entries, is it not going as well as we all thought it would? What's going on? Been not much talk everybody has gone quite???????????????????????
Title: Re: Maxima Racing Oils & BOLT ~ 2014 Australian Post Classic Championships
Post by: EML on March 19, 2014, 10:16:56 am
plenty of interest on the facebook site.
Title: Re: Maxima Racing Oils & BOLT ~ 2014 Australian Post Classic Championships
Post by: JohnnyO on March 19, 2014, 11:36:21 am
Still no word on how many entries, is it not going as well as we all thought it would? What's going on? Been not much talk everybody has gone quite???????????????????????
4 weeks til entries close, what's the problem?
You know most people enter in the last week.
You won't find any talk about the Nats on here, racers don't waste their time on here anymore...
Title: Re: Maxima Racing Oils & BOLT ~ 2014 Australian Post Classic Championships
Post by: KTM47 on March 19, 2014, 05:26:41 pm
seems to me we aren't paying the good people at MQ enough dough.
They take up to 3 weeks to electronically print a 1 day license and can't put the regs up on their own page.
So, using that as a yard stick, they sound like budding pollies and so must need more cash to make it swing.
WTF WTF WTF WTF WTF WTF TWF....................................................WTF WTF WTF WTF WTF WTF!!!!!

No it does not take 3 weeks to print a SOML. However as the entries close 2 weeks before the meeting I think it would be a reasonable thing to apply for a SOML at least a week before the close of entries.  The money from the licence eventually goes to MA also.  Just one other thing if someone who obtains a SOML for the meeting, they can use the cost of that licence towards a full National Licence, if they apply for it within 30 days.
Title: Re: Maxima Racing Oils & BOLT ~ 2014 Australian Post Classic Championships
Post by: EML on March 20, 2014, 03:00:55 pm
In NZ you turn up on the day, fill in an entry, buy a lic, pay your money and go racin'... just like in the US.
Title: Re: Maxima Racing Oils & BOLT ~ 2014 Australian Post Classic Championships
Post by: William Doe on March 20, 2014, 03:34:14 pm
In NZ you turn up on the day, fill in an entry, buy a lic, pay your money and go racin'... just like in the US.

Vaughn for VMX in NZ  there is no licence required at all  :) for most Moderns yes you can buy a licence on the day $15.00 I think . Some modern events do not require a licence .

If your from overseas at a VMX im running I wont charge entry fee either , just nice to see overseas visitors  :)

Title: Re: Maxima Racing Oils & BOLT ~ 2014 Australian Post Classic Championships
Post by: Slakewell on March 20, 2014, 04:20:35 pm
Maybe someone can ring MQ and point this out to them. I found them very easy to get along with at the classic nats.
Title: Re: Maxima Racing Oils & BOLT ~ 2014 Australian Post Classic Championships
Post by: VMX247 on March 20, 2014, 05:07:38 pm
Wouldn't MA be like any other business and invoice/print off once a month or you could just ring the Race Secretary.
Title: Re: Maxima Racing Oils & BOLT ~ 2014 Australian Post Classic Championships
Post by: KTM47 on March 22, 2014, 11:26:29 am
Maybe you could just have entries on the day but. 

1. You couldn't have a printed program
2. Sorting out race order would be very difficult, (we will try to not have riders racing back to back)
3. Using transponders would be a lot harder, you need the info to set things up etc.
4. Planning everything is a lot harder if you don't know how many riders you will have.
5. How can you give sponsors full value unless all of the above are done.

Also please the meeting starts on the Friday 25 April (Anzac Day). In the fortnight before that Friday you also have Easter so that is extra working days lost.

If there is someone who can run the meeting better (next year), please apply to MA now.  I am more than willing to sit back and see someone do things better.

The view expressed above is my personnel view.

Kevin
Title: Re: Maxima Racing Oils & BOLT ~ 2014 Australian Post Classic Championships
Post by: Nathan S on March 22, 2014, 01:00:08 pm
I don't think any of the questions have been critical of the club. It's all MA guff, that I can see.

I haven't entered yet because my wife's credit card was cancelled by her bank, because they suspected fraudulent activity in 2011...
That should be sorted next week, then I will enter. :)
Title: Re: Maxima Racing Oils & BOLT ~ 2014 Australian Post Classic Championships
Post by: evo550 on March 22, 2014, 10:42:47 pm
You won't find any talk about the Nats on here, racers don't waste their time on here anymore...

That has left me speechless....
Title: Re: Maxima Racing Oils & BOLT ~ 2014 Australian Post Classic Championships
Post by: popeye on March 23, 2014, 09:34:36 am
I'm with you EVO, not called for, just after some info, loosing interest in racing very quickly, shame...
Title: Re: Maxima Racing Oils & BOLT ~ 2014 Australian Post Classic Championships
Post by: JohnnyO on March 23, 2014, 09:58:38 am
I'm with you EVO, not called for, just after some info, loosing interest in racing very quickly, shame...
So tell me where on this forum of late there has been some good discussion about the upcoming racing at Echo Valley other than the eligibility bullshit smothering the event?
There is plenty of discussion going on at QVMX events Popeye. Were you at Biddaddaba, Coles Creek or the Troy Bayliss Expo yesterday??
Title: Re: Maxima Racing Oils & BOLT ~ 2014 Australian Post Classic Championships
Post by: KTM47 on March 23, 2014, 03:33:54 pm
Thank you John I think you have hit the nail on the head.

Also I have organised a Post Classic bike/rider school at Echo Valley three weeks before the Championships. 

Please check this post for info.  http://forum.ozvmx.com/index.php?topic=33797.0 (http://forum.ozvmx.com/index.php?topic=33797.0)

If you are interested let me know or post on the above thread.

Kevin
Title: Re: Maxima Racing Oils & BOLT ~ 2014 Australian Post Classic Championships
Post by: Ted on March 23, 2014, 05:45:36 pm
Kev, I am aware scrutineering starts on the Friday, with racing Sat and Sun. Is it OK to turn up Thursday arvo for interstaters just as it was at the Wyaralong Classic Nats?
Title: Re: Maxima Racing Oils & BOLT ~ 2014 Australian Post Classic Championships
Post by: YZAT252 on March 23, 2014, 09:15:55 pm
Guys, only my second year in VMX and looking forward to this event, just have a question regarding scrutineering. I have been told that I need to have a guard between the chain and rear sprocket, others have said no, only countershaft sprocket cover is required (which I have) can someone with the correct answer confirm which is correct please? I don't want to get there and not get a start because the bike fails scrutineering, I was told at a recent ride to replace my helmet because there was a couple of marks and slight surface rust on the buckle so I expect they are going to be pretty tough on us? All comments and opinion welcome but a comment from an official would be great to put my mind at ease, thanks guys!
Title: Re: Maxima Racing Oils & BOLT ~ 2014 Australian Post Classic Championships
Post by: Ted on March 23, 2014, 09:37:09 pm
Front and rear sprocket. Rear one something similar to a modern will keep them happy.
Title: Re: Maxima Racing Oils & BOLT ~ 2014 Australian Post Classic Championships
Post by: YZAT252 on March 23, 2014, 09:41:48 pm
Thanks Ted, will have to manufacture something I guess....
Title: Re: Maxima Racing Oils & BOLT ~ 2014 Australian Post Classic Championships
Post by: foxy999 on March 23, 2014, 10:10:40 pm
QVMX advise the Eligibility Scrutineer for the 2014 Post Classic Motocross Championship is David Tanner. For any further information regarding this event please head to our website www.qvmx.com.au contact details regarding your Eligibility queries are on the web site. Questions regarding bikes and eligibility will be kept off the forum for clarity and will be answered in a timely manner.

 
References and comments regarding 2014 Post Classic Motocross Championship on this forum are not necessarily endorsed by QVMX unless posted by the Club Secretary.

Entry forms can be also accessed via our website.
 
Regards

Brian Fox
Secretary QVMX
Title: Re: Maxima Racing Oils & BOLT ~ 2014 Australian Post Classic Championships
Post by: Nathan S on March 24, 2014, 10:12:41 am
The helmet thing = grrrrr.
Small marks on the shell or damage to the gel coat should NOT be reasons for a knock back. Ditto minor surface rust on chrome plated buckles.

To knock back or hassle competitors for these things, shows a lack of knowledge of how a helmet works, and a lack of knowledge of what the actual signs of damage are.
Few scrutineers actually get to see the real signs, because it is so rare for a competitor to present such a helmet...

The old saying about "dropping a helmet onto the ground can ruin it" is 99% bullshit - unless it had a bowling ball inside it at the time. Dropping an empty helmet onto the ground presents a small risk of structural damage to the hard outer shell - structural damage to the shell can usually be seen and/or felt.

The buckle obviously does an important job. But you have to stop and ask yourself whether some surface rust on a D-ring is compromising its strength... The whole assembly is MASSIVELY stronger than the person inside it (ref Marco Simoncelli...).

There is a reason why most helmet scrutiny is nothing more than checking for a standards sticker, and obvious faults. ;)
Anything more is virtually doomed to being a witch-hunt - the real problems are hidden, so the scrutineers pick on irrelevant nonsense instead.

Checking for wear and a proper fit would be a million times more productive and relevant than complaining about chips out of the gel-coat....


Sorry for the rant, but it's been a significant irritation in the car motorsport for me for the last twenty years - the bike world had escaped most of the nonsense, but I see it creeping in.
Title: Re: Maxima Racing Oils & BOLT ~ 2014 Australian Post Classic Championships
Post by: KTM47 on March 24, 2014, 03:31:59 pm
Guys, only my second year in VMX and looking forward to this event, just have a question regarding scrutineering. I have been told that I need to have a guard between the chain and rear sprocket, others have said no, only countershaft sprocket cover is required (which I have) can someone with the correct answer confirm which is correct please? I don't want to get there and not get a start because the bike fails scrutineering, I was told at a recent ride to replace my helmet because there was a couple of marks and slight surface rust on the buckle so I expect they are going to be pretty tough on us? All comments and opinion welcome but a comment from an official would be great to put my mind at ease, thanks guys!

Subject to approval from the Club who own the track (Twmba MXC) we will be permitting competitors into the track from the Thursday.  If there is a problem with this we will let you know on this forum ASAP.  If nothing is posted it is OK.

The general scrutineering items are not handled by the Eligibility Scrutineer.  They are handled by the scrutineers, any problems will be referred to the level four chief scrutineer.

1.  All bikes and sidecars must have a front sprocket cover
2.  All bikes and sidecars must have a rear sprocket cover.  This should really be reffered to as a chain guide.  If your chain guide is like a modern bike which restricts your fingers being drawn into the rear sprocket that is what is required.
3.  If your helmet has rust on the buckle it could be knocked back.  Scratches in the paint probably won't be a problem, but if they are into the gel coat they could be knocked back.  There are several good bike shops in Toowoomba within ten minutes of the track.  Clean any rust of the buckle if it isn't into the chrome it could be ok.  Sweat contains salt which rusts chrome.  Check your helmet before you come up here.
4.  Please make sure you have your class indentification letter on your number plates.

Kevin
Title: Re: Maxima Racing Oils & BOLT ~ 2014 Australian Post Classic Championships
Post by: KTM47 on March 24, 2014, 03:36:10 pm
Thank you John I think you have hit the nail on the head.

Also I have organised a Post Classic bike/rider school at Echo Valley three weeks before the Championships. 

Please check this post for info.  http://forum.ozvmx.com/index.php?topic=33797.0 (http://forum.ozvmx.com/index.php?topic=33797.0)

If you are interested let me know or post on the above thread.

Kevin

I apologise If I am pushing this a bit.  I just need to know how many riders will attend the school.  It will determine how much track prep I arrange etc.  Just an expression of interest will give me an idea of how many.

Kevin

Title: Re: Maxima Racing Oils & BOLT ~ 2014 Australian Post Classic Championships
Post by: VMX247 on March 26, 2014, 12:13:07 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuzBzmdgDXw&sns=fb
Title: Re: Maxima Racing Oils & BOLT ~ 2014 Australian Post Classic Championships
Post by: Slakewell on March 26, 2014, 12:20:10 pm
To agree with Nathan here. But yes as a boilermaker some lite rust from sweat on the buckles is just BS, to knock back a helemet because of this shows ignorance. What training do they have to inspect your helement? If anything they a need a density prope to check if the inner helement has not been compacted.
Title: Re: Maxima Racing Oils & BOLT ~ 2014 Australian Post Classic Championships
Post by: VMX247 on March 26, 2014, 12:27:06 pm
ENTRIES CLOSE IN TWO WEEKS
Title: Re: Maxima Racing Oils & BOLT ~ 2014 Australian Post Classic Championships
Post by: popeye on March 26, 2014, 09:48:45 pm
Just watched your utube link Alison, loved it....
Title: Re: Maxima Racing Oils & BOLT ~ 2014 Australian Post Classic Championships
Post by: VMX247 on March 27, 2014, 12:12:00 pm
Just watched your utube link Alison, loved it....

Have a look at this Aussie cracker of Weipa.I think it might be Geoff Ballard at 3.21 min mark in the back of the ute with a Phil ____  ??
Terry Davis has uploaded these to youtube,wonder where he is now days  :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_t5AKZx_-o
Title: Re: Maxima Racing Oils & BOLT ~ 2014 Australian Post Classic Championships
Post by: Kenneth S (222) on April 01, 2014, 07:33:28 am
Just put my entry in. Nice easy system. Really looking forward to this one.
Title: Re: Maxima Racing Oils & BOLT ~ 2014 Australian Post Classic Championships
Post by: KTM47 on April 01, 2014, 10:24:38 am
Kev, I am aware scrutineering starts on the Friday, with racing Sat and Sun. Is it OK to turn up Thursday arvo for interstaters just as it was at the Wyaralong Classic Nats?

Toowoomba MX club are OK with camping from Thursday.
Title: Re: Maxima Racing Oils & BOLT ~ 2014 Australian Post Classic Championships
Post by: Davey Crocket on April 01, 2014, 06:49:03 pm
I would just like to thank all the sponsors, there's a huge list that I will thank after the sup reg's have closed, it's been very positive with people and businesses chipping in from all over Australia. If this is any sign of what's to come it is going to be one hell of a meeting. If you haven't entered yet then get a move on, entries close end of next week.
Title: Re: Maxima Racing Oils & BOLT ~ 2014 Australian Post Classic Championships
Post by: Ted on April 02, 2014, 08:52:27 pm

Kev, I am aware scrutineering starts on the Friday, with racing Sat and Sun. Is it OK to turn up Thursday arvo for interstaters just as it was at the Wyaralong Classic Nats?

Toowoomba MX club are OK with camping from Thursday.





Thursday it is . Thanks Kev.
Title: Re: Maxima Racing Oils & BOLT ~ 2014 Australian Post Classic Championships
Post by: YZAT252 on April 02, 2014, 09:57:41 pm
Plenty of room for camping if you arrive Friday?
Title: Re: Maxima Racing Oils & BOLT ~ 2014 Australian Post Classic Championships
Post by: Davey Crocket on April 02, 2014, 11:49:20 pm
Yes.
Title: Re: Maxima Racing Oils & BOLT ~ 2014 Australian Post Classic Championships
Post by: D project on April 03, 2014, 06:23:02 pm
Anyone from Vic heading up that could transport two bikes and gear up and back for me?
Thanks Jason.
Title: Re: Maxima Racing Oils & BOLT ~ 2014 Australian Post Classic Championships
Post by: VMX247 on April 06, 2014, 02:43:10 pm
ENTRIES CLOSE FRIDAY 11th..Lets make this happen !!
Title: Re: Maxima Racing Oils & BOLT ~ 2014 Australian Post Classic Championships
Post by: foxy999 on April 06, 2014, 07:21:42 pm
Please note that entries for the Maxima Oils <Bolt> Post Classic National Championship close on

Next Friday 11th of April and classes will be organised over that weekend so there can be no late entries.

Entries are still coming in steadily so don’t miss out on one of the best racing weekends this year in Australia.

Toowoomba has had very good rain lately so the underlying moisture will help make a perfect track.

QVMX committee have been hard at it to ensure you have a wonderful weekend.

Regards,
 
Brian Fox
QVMX Secretary
Title: Re: Maxima Racing Oils & BOLT ~ 2014 Australian Post Classic Championships
Post by: Ted on April 06, 2014, 07:59:56 pm
How are the entries going state by state Brian?
Title: Re: Maxima Racing Oils & BOLT ~ 2014 Australian Post Classic Championships
Post by: JohnnyO on April 06, 2014, 09:12:17 pm
The track was excellent today, prepped and watered much better than last year's club day. Looking good for the Nationals..
Title: Re: Maxima Racing Oils & BOLT ~ 2014 Australian Post Classic Championships
Post by: Ted on April 06, 2014, 09:28:05 pm
A couple of southern visitors today John?
Title: Re: Maxima Racing Oils & BOLT ~ 2014 Australian Post Classic Championships
Post by: JohnnyO on April 06, 2014, 10:11:25 pm
Yes Ted, Burty is riding awesome!
Title: Re: Maxima Racing Oils & BOLT ~ 2014 Australian Post Classic Championships
Post by: Ted on April 06, 2014, 10:29:02 pm
The racing is going to be full on.
Title: Re: Maxima Racing Oils & BOLT ~ 2014 Australian Post Classic Championships
Post by: D project on April 07, 2014, 01:27:11 pm
Would there be anybody in toowoomba or surrounds that could hold onto my bikes for a couple of days either side of the Nats?
Title: Re: Maxima Racing Oils & BOLT ~ 2014 Australian Post Classic Championships
Post by: foxy999 on April 07, 2014, 08:19:23 pm
sorry ted I don't have that info to pass on. once I get it I will pass it on at a later date.
Title: Re: Maxima Racing Oils & BOLT ~ 2014 Australian Post Classic Championships
Post by: Ted on April 07, 2014, 08:52:38 pm
Thanks Brian
Title: Re: Maxima Racing Oils & BOLT ~ 2014 Australian Post Classic Championships
Post by: VMX247 on April 07, 2014, 09:59:32 pm
How are the entries going state by state Brian?

Have not heard of anyone from WA attending, thought I do know this team of people are going hard at getting this event well attended.
The future looks bright for the laying down of Post Classic Nationals In Australia.  8)
cheers westside
Title: Re: Maxima Racing Oils & BOLT ~ 2014 Australian Post Classic Championships
Post by: Davey Crocket on April 08, 2014, 09:24:45 pm
There's entries from all the Eastern side States and South Aussie, if you want to relive the 80's then either enter in the next few day's or come and watch the guy's that where the legend's back then going around again. 8)
Title: Re: Maxima Racing Oils & BOLT ~ 2014 Australian Post Classic Championships
Post by: Ted on April 09, 2014, 06:21:53 pm
And if you really want to soak up the 80's experience.........move to Queensland 8) 8)
Title: Re: Maxima Racing Oils & BOLT ~ 2014 Australian Post Classic Championships
Post by: KTM47 on April 10, 2014, 02:46:23 pm
and if you want to live in the 60s and 70s move to Nu Zulland.
Title: Re: Maxima Racing Oils & BOLT ~ 2014 Australian Post Classic Championships
Post by: foxy999 on April 12, 2014, 08:45:39 pm
There will be secure lockup at the track in shipping containers @ $5 per bike details John Gurke 0427 873890

Regards,
 
Brian Fox
QVMX Secretary
Title: Re: Maxima Racing Oils & BOLT ~ 2014 Australian Post Classic Championships
Post by: Digga on April 15, 2014, 08:26:53 pm
Will be heading up to Echo Valley for the PCVMX Nats from waaay down south but have a little issue, that I am struggling to get one of my bikes fully completed before I leave on the long drive north. There's a better than good chance it will be all together but with a new top end & not run in  :'(

So I was wondering if anyone up there around Toowoomba way has (or knows someone who has) somewhere for me to crusie around & run in the bike for an hour or so? There is no riding at the track prior to Sat so thats out but if there is anywhere else close by'ish where I could cruise around on Friday afternoon, that would be great  :)
Title: Re: Maxima Racing Oils & BOLT ~ 2014 Australian Post Classic Championships
Post by: D project on April 17, 2014, 12:53:58 pm
When should we expect some news on entry's regs and schedule?
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Post by: vandy010 on April 17, 2014, 03:38:13 pm
Here's wishing everyone an amazing event!
i won't be there but i know the track will be awesome and the people on the job are the right people for it...
i want photo's of big long wheelies up the start straight :)
cheers folks!
& enjoy...
Vandy
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Post by: PEZBerq on April 17, 2014, 07:45:17 pm
What's the camping arrangements? Is it in the general pit area or is there room for tents, vehicles and gazebos elsewhere?From memory there isn't exactly lots of room compared to say Connondale? A club day had the place packed to the gills as I recall. If you arrive Friday arvo will it be all gone? Appreciate a heads up on what to expect. Thanks
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Post by: JohnnyO on April 17, 2014, 08:11:41 pm
There's also a huge camping area just above the track where you drive in.
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Post by: foxy999 on April 18, 2014, 12:41:53 pm
QVMX is proud to announce on closing of the entries we have approximately 132 riders entered and around 234 machines. Please be aware scrutineering will commence at 1pm Friday afternoon for those already there. Race order will be listed in the program and supplied at the event. 
Regards

Brian Fox
Secretary QVMX
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Post by: Ted on April 18, 2014, 02:29:53 pm
Well done QVMX . Champion club
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Post by: VMX247 on April 18, 2014, 03:15:08 pm
Superb.setting the ball rolling for Post Classic Champioships future.
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Post by: Nathan S on April 22, 2014, 08:53:25 pm
Busted!

Skip to 1:10... :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BdMxn-WraQ

But don't despair, Kenneth reappears at around 8:20, doing his very best Jerry Robin impersonation.

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Post by: VMX247 on April 23, 2014, 03:15:32 pm
Echo Valley gears up for 80s action
April 23, 2014

Motorcycles from 1978 to 1989 will take to Toowoomba’s Echo Valley Raceway at the Maxima/ BOLT Australian Post Classic Motocross Championship this weekend.

At last count, 132 riders on 234 bikes had entered for the Championships. Among them are previous champions Dean Burt, James Deakin, David Armstrong and Andrew Bailey.

Echo Valley has a history of iconic events, like Mountain Man Motocross, Mr Motocross and Australian Motocross Championships.

Many riders who’ve entered this weekend’s championship participated in the annual Mountain Man Motocross which was run at Echo Valley from 1975 to 1988 with a one-off revival in 1997. Next year would be the event’s 40th anniversary.

Riders in this year’s event range from age 17 to 76, and will be riding bikes from three different eras:
•Evolution: bikes from 1978 to 1983 with non linkage suspension, drum brakes, and air cooled motors in three capacity classes, 125cc, 250cc and 500cc.
•Pre 85: bikes up to 1984 model some with single shock suspension, watercooling and disc brakes in three capacity classes, 125cc, 250cc and 500cc.
•Pre 90: bikes up to 1989 model with single shock suspension, watercooling and disc brakes in three capacity classes, 125cc, 250cc and 500cc.

There are also separate Women’s and sidecars classes.

Riders have already spent some time on the track, at a coaching day held at the start of April (you can read that story here).

The meeting will be held over Saturday and Sunday, with action starting from 8.30am each day. ?? Admission is $10.00 per day, or $15.00 for both days. Entry is free for pensioners and children under the age of 14.

More information can be found here.
http://www.mqld.org.au/index.php?id=97&tx_ttnews%5Btt_news%5D=12908&tx_ttnews%5BbackPid%5D=95&cHash=2d73ce4e84
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Post by: Davey Crocket on April 23, 2014, 09:07:44 pm
Well, only a couple of days to go....the invasion of southerners will start and I've been told the NSWeshman are taking all the trophies back with them......something I find hard to accept/believe.....how many years has the State of Origin been in QLD hands?.....the VMX trophies are the same... ;D.....the only thing they will be taking back will be empty beer cans and sore heads....LOL. Good luck to everyone and safe travels. This event is going to be awesome.....come and watch if you can.
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Post by: PEZBerq on April 23, 2014, 09:22:33 pm
Davey, what is the situation regarding showers, food and entertainment? Will the punters be able to clean up and get some tucker after a hard day chewing dust at the back of the pack?  ::) Or do we need to make our own arrangements for the weekend. Looking forward to it  :D
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Post by: Simo63 on April 23, 2014, 09:27:01 pm
All packed And ready to leave tomorrow morning.  Looking forward to a great weekend   8) :D
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Post by: Davey Crocket on April 23, 2014, 10:48:50 pm
There's hot showers up the top by the gate where you come in [cold if your from NSW].
The club's cooking Friday night, Saturday Breakfast/lunch/dinner and Sunday Breakfast/lunch and maybe dinner.
They will have a bar set up in the "Troy Carroll" bar.
Ted from Sydney will be the entertainment......he thinks they are going to knock off the QLDers so as you can see, he's a comedian.
If you want to wash your bike there is a bike wash set up up the top where the showers are.....There is NO washing your bikes in the pits.
All tow vehicles are to be moved to the back of the pits.
There is plenty of room in the pits as long as the above is adhered too.
There is going to be one designated fire pit....it will be marked off....bring your chainsaw...it will be big!
Friday being ANZAC DAY scrutineering will start at 1pm to observe ANZAC day protocol.....NO bikes to be started.
Remember to have fun....see you there. 8)
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Post by: PEZBerq on April 24, 2014, 07:51:54 am
Sounds like we are roughing it then JT. Isn't the life of a VMX'r tough in Queensland  8)  ;D ;D
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Post by: suzuki59 on April 24, 2014, 01:21:13 pm
Watch out for Davey Crockett hovering around the showers with a bar of soap in his hands men  ;)
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Post by: VMX Andrew on April 24, 2014, 03:02:03 pm
Watch out for Davey Crockett hovering around the showers with a bar of soap in his hands men  ;)
  :D
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Post by: DR500 on April 24, 2014, 06:30:02 pm
if you do drop the soap, check who's behind you :o
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Post by: Simo63 on April 24, 2014, 06:45:49 pm
Speaking of the toilets, I just fished a gorgeous full sized green tree frog from out of the dunny before he got flushed down. My good deed for the day:)
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Post by: Nathan S on April 24, 2014, 10:07:31 pm
"Tree frog" - is that what you're calling them now?

Rumours I've heard since getting here:
The track is significantly changed from the practice weekend earlier in the month;
A full grid for Evo 250;
Some young bloke on an 89 KTM is the favourite for Pre-90 250;
Some old bloke from Yass on an '87 KX500 is the hot favourite for Pre-90 500, and will have no drama beating Armstrong & Deakin - apparently be goes alright.

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Post by: oldfart on April 25, 2014, 07:03:47 am
The bullshit stops once the gates drop Nathan ... see you Saturday.
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Post by: Rossvickicampbell on April 25, 2014, 08:56:32 am
you have a nasty streak young Craig - not jealous are you  ;D
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Post by: VMX247 on April 25, 2014, 10:53:01 am
Photos in from Nathan S -Thank you   8)   :)   8)

Thanks to fallen comrades Australian and New Zealand Corps, that we can ride in freedom.
Lest We Forget.
Scrutineering today 1pm-5pm Friday and Saturday 6.30am-7.30am

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TEAM NSW

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Post by: suzuki59 on April 25, 2014, 01:54:58 pm
you have a nasty streak young Craig - not jealous are you  ;D
Sorry it's the company I keep ie homos like you  :D
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Post by: VMX247 on April 26, 2014, 11:49:46 am
Fastest lap time 2.05 by Dean Burt

http://www.mylaps.com/en/events/1006993
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Post by: Shaun G on April 26, 2014, 12:45:50 pm
James Deakin did 01:58.278 in Pre '90 big bores and Burty did 01:58.154 on his 250. Looks like daylight second to these two  ;D

Cheers
Shaun
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Post by: Nathan S on April 26, 2014, 06:35:31 pm
I got lapped by the two of them in the Pre-90 250 race...
Been a while since that happened.
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Post by: rtb on April 27, 2014, 06:39:14 am
Evo 250 lap times 1.58.3 and 1.59 , air cooled drum brakes!!!!!only 4 riders under 2 minutes all Day

Racing has been great but some competitors are very slow causing problems being lapped. One rider was lapped 4 times in one race. Shouldn't be on the track.
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Post by: Shaun G on April 27, 2014, 08:05:35 am
I got lapped by the two of them in the Pre-90 250 race...
Been a while since that happened.

blame Nickleback I reckon  ;D
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Post by: Rossvickicampbell on April 27, 2014, 08:20:06 am
good on ya RTB - lets remember it's VMX and the numbers of riders between first and last are not so great as to be picky and exclude people - it's all about the ride.
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Post by: VMX Andrew on April 27, 2014, 08:58:48 am
Yep cant win these days... Were damned if we do and damned if we dont  ::)
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Post by: Lozza on April 27, 2014, 11:13:04 am
I got lapped by the two of them in the Pre-90 250 race...
Been a while since that happened.

blame Nickleback I reckon  ;D

that is funny  :D
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Post by: Noel on April 27, 2014, 05:49:23 pm
Congratulations to all the winners
http://www.mylaps.com/en/events/1006993
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Post by: Slakewell on April 27, 2014, 06:02:06 pm
Peter Horwood looks to have had a good meeting winning all the Pre 85 250 races and running second in the Pre 90 big bores
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Post by: Ekka on April 27, 2014, 06:06:08 pm
Evo 250 lap times 1.58.3 and 1.59 , air cooled drum brakes!!!!!only 4 riders under 2 minutes all Day

Racing has been great but some competitors are very slow causing problems being lapped. One rider was lapped 4 times in one race. Shouldn't be on the track.
that a bit rough bob , was it a cane toad  :o ;)
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Post by: Nathan S on April 27, 2014, 07:49:31 pm
I would normally be all in favour of getting as many riders on the track ... but at a National title meeting, I'm inclinded to agree with rtb.

I got lapped (once) over the weekend, before anyone asks.
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Post by: John Orchard on April 27, 2014, 07:59:31 pm
Maybe having riders qualify for a national championship meeting by finishing in the top 5 of a state championship?  Or you must run within 10% of the fastest time in practise to be able to race?

Personally I do not think it is a National championship if it is only run in one state..... just my own feelings.
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Post by: PEZBerq on April 27, 2014, 07:59:52 pm
Fabulous weekend of racing and socializing. QVMX once again ran a ripper event with the track producing goor racing and plenty of room for all skill levels to have fun. Those chasing titles had to contend with lappers which was by no means difficult for them  ::) Echo Vally is a challenging track but quite within the capabilities of Post Classic machines as we all saw. However the track was not within the fitness capabilities of quite a few riders  8) 8) Lap times under 2 minutes by the fast title contenders meant anyone in the high 2:30's and slower was in serious danger of being lapped in lap 5. It was a great way to check a few lines for a couple of seconds at least ;D. Fantastic event, excellent weather and great organizers - another Queensland VMX success   :D
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Post by: VMX247 on April 27, 2014, 08:03:29 pm
NORTH, SOUTH, EAST OR WEST ~ WINNERS ARE GRINNERS

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Post by: PEZBerq on April 27, 2014, 08:16:03 pm
Maybe having riders qualify for a national championship meeting by finishing in the top 5 of a state championship?  Or you must run within 10% of the fastest time in practise to be able to race?

Personally I do not think it is a National championship if it is only run in one state..... just my own feelings.

We have seen PC Titles being canned due to lack of entries. Don't see how turning competitors way helps a sport thrive. VMX is not exactly in any position to turn away riders from racing - even at Aussie titles. Nothing good would come from less competitors at the titles. Just my opinion.
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Post by: Nathan S on April 27, 2014, 08:19:10 pm
It was a bloody good event. A few niggles, but no big hassles, an awesome track and a bunch of good people (as usual).

I ended up 8th in the 125s and 11th in the 250s (both Pre-90), which I'm happy with - got plenty of couldawouldashoula style excuses, but so does everyone.
I'm just glad to be part of Pre-90 racing coming of age in this country. :)

Big thanks to everyone who made the event happen. :)
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Post by: D project on April 27, 2014, 08:53:49 pm
Worth the trip up from Melbourne. Track was VMX friendly but challenging enough for the front runners. Track held up well and was better on the second day. Everyone seemed to be having fun :)
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Post by: Simo63 on April 27, 2014, 09:59:25 pm
Man I'm stiff and sore but holy crap, what a brilliant event.

Great people, great atmosphere, brilliant racing on a very challenging track ( for a lot of us  ;) ) and probably the best run event I've ever attended.  An absolute credit to the QVMX Club AND all the organisers, helpers and volunteers that put in so much effort and passion to see this event finally get off the ground.  If you chose not to go then you missed out big time. 

A sincere thank you to all those people for such a smooth event, well done everyone.

The bar has been set .... High .... Bring on the next one :)
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Post by: allan hughes on April 28, 2014, 07:01:27 am
went for a look on sunday
wish i was fit enough to have a go
good racing in all classes
well done qvmx/bmcc
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Post by: popeye on April 28, 2014, 07:15:56 am
Went all weekend, fantastic Awsome event well organised, well done to all competitors, stand out of the weekend for me had to be Jimmy Deakin, big crash Saturday, Broke his thumb in 3 places, knocked himself out, and still rode the wheels off the 2 Pre 90 bikes he had there, CR500- YZ250, another rider that impressed a lot of people was Peter Horwood on the KTM 500@250, but they weren't the only 2, a lot of guys rode 4-5-6 classes and bloody good on em, get rid of the slow ones, you've got to be kidding, we need as many out there as we can get slow and fast..
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Post by: kdx 175 on April 28, 2014, 07:20:57 am
im nackerd only ride one bike at the back of feaild last i think i must up grade the kdx 175 its abit under powerd but grate  event thanks people
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Post by: Slakewell on April 28, 2014, 08:13:05 am
Please post some pics and youtubes links.
As for lap riders that's just racing. You should be happy that there was riders there to lap because without them you would not be racing.
Great to see guys like Nathan who still enjoy it and are proud to just outside the top ten. Well done.
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Post by: allan hughes on April 28, 2014, 08:37:29 am
how about the track announcer
good job popeye
(photos are on facebook page)
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Post by: Nathan S on April 28, 2014, 08:48:31 am
Please post some pics and youtubes links.
As for lap riders that's just racing. You should be happy that there was riders there to lap because without them you would not be racing.
Great to see guys like Nathan who still enjoy it and are proud to just outside the top ten. Well done.

Lots of cameras out there - there must be plenty of photos!
Nada said he had taken 2000+...

I think there's a discussion to be had about what the Nationals mean, and what we want from them - but I need my brain to recover first and I think we should all bask in the glow of a great event for a while yet. :)
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Post by: EML on April 28, 2014, 09:48:21 am
On the lapped riders.....we need 'em to make an event, even if they do present passing probs....get over it, even in GPs they are a constant.
In the outfits, we had the all girl crew of Lisa Fox and Helen Mattock who we overwhelmed by the circuit but agreed to circulate to make a field. Good on them and more joy to 'em I say.
There was the obvious difference between those that came to win, those that came to ride and those that came to show off their recently completed project!! More jot to them as well.
Loved the track---and was happy not to be pushing hard at that front when having to turn right then lft instead of going up the Matterhorn. That is a recipe for disaster on an outfit when going very fast as David Mattock almost found out when Matt Maloney smacked him from behind in race 2.
Great effort from QVMX, Toowoomba MCC and all others involved. And to you too Popeye ,don't hang up your boots yet, but you're ok on the mic.
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Post by: William Doe on April 28, 2014, 10:21:04 am
Maybe having riders qualify for a national championship meeting by finishing in the top 5 of a state championship?  Or you must run within 10% of the fastest time in practise to be able to race?

Personally I do not think it is a National championship if it is only run in one state..... just my own feelings.

Great ideas but you blokes are 30 years to late  ;) the last to PC nats were cancelled due to lack of entries and now you want to pick and choose who gets to ride  ::)

They cant even fill the gates at modern championship meetings , time has moved on and championship or not its just a bunch of old blokes racing old bikes . The really fast ones were really fast in the day and still are , What about if we find a backer to pay for all the hotshots who race at Farleigh or some of the big Yank events to come to the Aussie nats . Are you gonna tell the fast Aussies sorry you cant enter because you cant run within 10% of the fastest lap time in qualifying  ;)

And if you think they would then ask those who have raced at the big international events how fast the Euros and Yanks  are .

Sounds like it was a very well run event and a great boost for the sport . Be a shame if the memory of it was tarnished by those who's egos are bigger than their talent  ;)
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Post by: John Orchard on April 28, 2014, 10:46:59 am
Sorry if I gave the wrong idea, I am not in favour of limiting riders for the event, I was just suggesting ideas for those that did.

Having been lapped in World & Australian Championship Superbike races, I've had my share of "slower riders getting in the way" comments!!!!  50,000 motorcycle riding spectators at Phillip Island, only the countries fastest 8 Superbike racers qualify and people are saying I shouldn't be out there ..... get farked !!!!

At lower-level meetings I do not mind lapping traffic, if anything it is a buzz for me, I give them a wave to say hello.  You get rid of the lapped riders and you don't even have a race!
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Post by: Graeme M on April 28, 2014, 12:59:16 pm
I respect all opinions here, but there is an issue here that should be considered.

As a very slow MX racer, I gave racing at a modern track away due to both lack of ability and the danger of being lapped. It's one thing to be lapped on a nice natural terrain grasstrack, another to be lapped on a modern MX track. Given we now have Pre 85 and Pre 90 classes and ex Aussie champs (or even current champs) racing,  the speed and talent differential is high. Add in table tops and larger jumps and the recipe is there for a higher than usual level of risk.

I wouldn't like to suggest grading or preventing people riding, but what is the answer? Maybe emphasis at rider's brief on the need for slower riders to maintain their lines, and perhaps to stick to the side of larger or table top style jumps? Maybe for track marshalls to spot very slow riders or riders about to be passed and give them a blue flag like in the Yank races?
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Post by: Simo63 on April 28, 2014, 01:42:29 pm
I respect all opinions here, but there is an issue here that should be considered.

As a very slow MX racer, I gave racing at a modern track away due to both lack of ability and the danger of being lapped. It's one thing to be lapped on a nice natural terrain grasstrack, another to be lapped on a modern MX track. Given we now have Pre 85 and Pre 90 classes and ex Aussie champs (or even current champs) racing,  the speed and talent differential is high. Add in table tops and larger jumps and the recipe is there for a higher than usual level of risk.

I wouldn't like to suggest grading or preventing people riding, but what is the answer? Maybe emphasis at rider's brief on the need for slower riders to maintain their lines, and perhaps to stick to the side of larger or table top style jumps? Maybe for track marshalls to spot very slow riders or riders about to be passed and give them a blue flag like in the Yank races?

Graeme you raise some good points and whilst I first want to acknowledge this forum is not the place for this to be resolved, it is a good place to discuss some ideas and experiences.  I was fortunate enough to be involved in a conversation around the camp site on Saturday night with a few of the organisers so I hope I am not speaking out of turn but I believe I can add to the discussion.  Here is my perspective:

In the pre 90 250 (same race as Nathan Senior) I was also lapped around the last lap by the 1st and 2nd riders (Burty and Deaks I think).  I think I was running just in front of Nathan at the time as I kept seeing his headlight when I glanced around :).  Like Nathan, this has never happend to me before either and I think I know why (aside from the fact I'm older and slower than ever :) ).

The track was fantastic, hell the event was fantastic, but we did have that discussion I mentioned between a few people on Saturday night that the track was a bit too challenging in a range of spots for all but the top 10% of the riders.  What that means is that it was a very challenging track and whilst I'm not complaining because I was able to challenge myself (just about every bloody jump :) ), it really allowed the fast guys to go fast and really slowed up the rest of us.  I'm probably making a meal out of explaining this correctly but what I am trying to say is that the track was probably too hard for the majority of the riders and the effect of that was a large variance in the lap times.

Subsequently the fast guys were lapping a large % of the field within 6 laps :o

I know that my poor little 77 YZ250D, still with only 9 inches of travel and fresh from the Classic Champs last year, now has a bent frame under the motor where I consistently cased out trying to get that bloody uphill double jump.  I could do it on my 89 CR250 but just could not get the YZ over the 2nd jump and man did it hit hard.  I know another good rider with a YZ125 that bent his LH footpeg on Saturday casing out only to then bend the spare one I lent him on Sunday.  I mean we (and I'm using the royal "we" here referring to the mid-pack runners) were trying but the track was just a bit too hard in a number of spots for the majority of us.  And the fact you couldn't make those doubles meant you were a lot slower than if you could. I wasn't comfortable with rolling jumps because that wasn't challenging for me AND I didn't want anyone faster landing on me either so I gave it a red hot go every time .. only to come up short  :(

Anyway, it is a discussion we should have (not only here) and it's important to me that people understand my comments above are not a criticism of the track or the event.  But I think a good way to ensure this isn't an issue in the future would be to have a track that allowed say 60 - 70% of us to clear the jumps.  Someone quite knowledgeable said on Saturday night that maybe there could be a capable rider given the job of determining if the jumps are okay for the majority of skill levels?? Just a thought?

Oh and just before I finish .. I didn't notice any blue flags being waved by the marshalls.  When I was lapped by Deaks the first time it was quite a shock to me as was another time Burty blasted up the inside of me on a corner.  If nothing else, a blue flag would have been very handy I think.

I hope these comments are taken in the positive manner to which they were given  :)
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Post by: allan hughes on April 28, 2014, 03:14:05 pm
if you dont move off line
the fast guys will pass easily

 
Title: Re: Maxima Racing Oils & BOLT ~ 2014 Australian Post Classic Championships
Post by: Graeme M on April 28, 2014, 03:41:04 pm
Yes, but you also have to know the faster guy is coming, and if he's coming at a speed way faster than you are and you've just mucked up a big jump because you aren't that good...

I am speaking for myself here, but I always try to keep to my line. However, I'm crap, and I often make a mess of a corner, a set of whoops, or a jump because I am trying to go faster than I am safe to go at. If at that moment some guy decides to go by me at a speed 10 or 20 km/hr faster than me, well, he's gonna collect me if he's unlucky.

On an easy track that doesn't happen so much, but on a challenging (read modern) track, much greater chance of it. And if I've just wobbled offline over a double or tabletop cos I came up short, what then? Will the faster guy be able to correct his line while in flight?

Anyways, I know I've derailed this thread into an offtopic theme, so I might close off this Nats thread now it's all done and dusted, unsticky it, and start a new one for Post Nats Debrief?
Title: Re: Maxima Racing Oils & BOLT ~ 2014 Australian Post Classic Championships
Post by: JohnnyO on April 28, 2014, 03:58:21 pm


Anyway, it is a discussion we should have (not only here) and it's important to me that people understand my comments above are not a criticism of the track or the event.  But I think a good way to ensure this isn't an issue in the future would be to have a track that allowed say 60 - 70% of us to clear the jumps.  Someone quite knowledgeable said on Saturday night that maybe there could be a capable rider given the job of determining if the jumps are okay for the majority of skill levels?? Just a thought?

A very good point...
Organisers and track owner/operators need to listen to the riders about track issues. The topic was raised by several riders about the new double jumps before the event but it fell on deaf ears... Many riders I spoke to didn't like them and several packed up well before the event was over.
Regardless it was still a fantastic weekend with plenty of great racing at a brilliant venue and congrats to QVMX for pulling it off!
Title: Re: Maxima Racing Oils & BOLT ~ 2014 Australian Post Classic Championships
Post by: Tossa on April 28, 2014, 04:43:52 pm
Sounds like a well organised event with the only thing forgotten was the age of the riders.  Just because the bike have longer travel suspension doesn't mean the riders are 20yrs old.  Well done to QVMX for stepping up and providing a great event. 
Title: Re: Maxima Racing Oils & BOLT ~ 2014 Australian Post Classic Championships
Post by: Rossvickicampbell on April 28, 2014, 05:44:30 pm
agree with Graeme as it is totally off topic.  I think it shows that there are so many guys out to do the best they can - as was always the intent with VMX - and the guys racing for sheepstations (not a complaint).  I wonder whther those proclaiming it is a NAts and should be for the top 10% forget it is VMX and the gaps between the haves and have nots are significantly larger here - and as Tossa says - not everybody lining up is under 25.  We can't compare ourselves to anything modern.  Its all about the old bikes and older guys - even more so in VMX the majority lies with those that can't do udner 2 min lap times?  SHould Graeme not be allowed to ride because he isn't as fast as Burty (or me because I am not as fast as Graeme  ;D).  Let me know now and I can give SA at Port Augusta a miss - oh and if we start doing that will be interesting to see how many turn up.
Title: Re: Maxima Racing Oils & BOLT ~ 2014 Australian Post Classic Championships
Post by: JohnnyO on April 28, 2014, 05:51:08 pm
Anyone and everyone deserves to ride, we've had to deal with lappers since day 1, they just need to be educated to hold their line..
We're racing for fun..it's not the modern MX Nationals
Title: Re: Maxima Racing Oils & BOLT ~ 2014 Australian Post Classic Championships
Post by: Graeme M on April 28, 2014, 05:56:39 pm
I am closing this topic now. Future discussions about the event can be covered at the new thread linked below, whether it be comments around how well it went, what fun you had, or any constructive suggestions.

http://forum.ozvmx.com/index.php?topic=34263.0