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Clubroom => Bike Talk => Topic started by: gt96 on February 04, 2014, 06:13:08 pm
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Given the controversy over 2014 MA requirements for rear chain guards for CMX/CDT for 2014 (http://forum.ozvmx.com/index.php?topic=32985.0), noticed that the rider back numbers appear to be applicable now.
2013 general rule was:
12.6.5
Back Numbers – Seniors and Juniors
12.6.5.1
No junior or senior may compete without back numbers, except in Enduro, Moto-
Trials, Road Racing or interclub/closed to club competitions
unless wearing the machine identification number on their back
in contrasting colours and with a minimum size of 125mm height and 20mm width of
stroke
2014 CMX/CDT now has:
16.9.2 Back Numbers
16.9.2.1 No competitor may compete in any competition unless wearing the machine identification number on their back in contrasting colours and with a minimum size of 125mm height and 20mm width of stroke.
Is this likely to be enforced in club competition?
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i have been wearing mine for 4 years now just put it on also helps with the dirt rosted from the bike in front of you when the track is wet.
look at the evo race pics of tbc all the penrith ones mine is a st george one were it at all club days.
cost 70.00 vinyl and printed.
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The requirement for a back number was always there. It was just in "all disciplines".
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OK, here we go again. I've been racing on and off for over 40 years and have managed to make it without a number on my back. I know why they're now insisting on it but in this era of transponders it seems to me to be a bit superfluous and a few decades too late :-\. My whingeing isn't going to change things however, so where can I get numbers put on my jerseys (screen printed, iron on??) It's more the inconvenience of having to get it done that bothers me more than the actual number itself.
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All i do is print the numbers out on a sheet of paper and laminate it
I then zip tie it to my body armour...
As for putting it on a jersey...
Well i reckon you might need a plan "B"...
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All i do is print the numbers out on a sheet of paper and laminate it I then zip tie it to my body armour...
As for putting it on a jersey...
Well i reckon you might need a plan "B"...
I don't wear external body armour Vandy, I wear an Axo Air Cage under my jersey. Anyone got a good plan B ?
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An old school bib, The ones we used at the Nats cost $12.00 each and the wife did the artwork. We only had 20 made all with different numbers on
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Or slide down to the AFL or NRL shop and buy a couple of numbers and iron them on yourself..about $5 each last time I bought some..
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Whats AFL?...... ;D
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That is the same as Gay FL
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Or slide down to the AFL or NRL shop and buy a couple of numbers and iron them on yourself..about $5 each last time I bought some..
An old school bib, The ones we used at the Nats cost $12.00 each and the wife did the artwork. We only had 20 made all with different numbers on
Brilliant solutions, thanks to both of you ;)
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With big respect for Barry's Bibs which were an outstanding way of spotting the West Aussies at the Nats, I prefer Brian's iron on solution. I've worn bibs in the past and found them hot and slightly uncomfortable to wear, blocking out the air flow. Even though I'll be riding only dirt track I need as much air on my fat gut as possible ::).......plus I've got some cool period jerseys I'd hate to hide with a bib. Now I just have to find a footy or sports outfitter shop.
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True, true, but I think the rule says the number on the rider has to match the number on the bike.
If so with this plan "C" it would be easy to loan you buddy a race ride, particularly if you are dramatically different in physical stature(size).
Just wondering out loud, which reminds me,,,,,,,,,,,change thread.
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Most CofCs and lap scorers accept that if you are changing bikes you may not be able to change back numbers. Just ask them when you request a change of machine. Most officials will work with a rider when they are treated with respect.
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just read 2014 moms you have to have back nos in all compertition including cdt cmx up to 1978 and now post classic dt/mx
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OK, here we go again. I've been racing on and off for over 40 years and have managed to make it without a number on my back. I know why they're now insisting on it but in this era of transponders it seems to me to be a bit superfluous and a few decades too late :-\. My whingeing isn't going to change things however, so where can I get numbers put on my jerseys (screen printed, iron on??) It's more the inconvenience of having to get it done that bothers me more than the actual number itself.
Back numbers are required at club level in Vic so we have them anyway, but what happens when you attend the Nats and get a different number? Buy another jersey so you can put your "nats" number on it? Why Why Why? As Mark rightly pointed out, we have transponders at the Nats now so having back numbers is all a bit too late.
There are iron-on blank sheets you can buy online. Trace your number(s) and cut them out and iron them on.
I think a lot of sports wear shops sell individual iron-on numbers as well.
You can also use a square of white cotton (an old sheet or tee shirt) and paint the number(s) on with fabric paint. Then it's just a matter of securing to your jersey....hook and loop tape (velcro) works and is also available as an iron-on.
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but what happens when you attend the Nats and get a different number? in your tool box should be some electrical tape Buy another jersey so you can put your "nats" number on it? electrical tape/turn jersey inside out Why Why Why? As Mark rightly pointed out, we have transponders at the Nats now so having back numbers is all a bit too late. timing volunteers cant see the bike number plates, because some riders don't clean bike plates between each race
There are iron-on blank sheets you can buy online. Trace your number(s) and cut them out and iron them on.
I think a lot of sports wear shops sell individual iron-on numbers as well.
You can also use a square of white cotton (an old sheet or tee shirt) and paint the number(s) on with fabric paint. Then it's just a matter of securing to your jersey....hook and loop tape (velcro) works and is also available as an iron-on.
its not that hard TBM as you've mentioned in the second paragraph :)
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but what happens when you attend the Nats and get a different number? in your tool box should be some electrical tape Buy another jersey so you can put your "nats" number on it? electrical tape/turn jersey inside out Why Why Why? As Mark rightly pointed out, we have transponders at the Nats now so having back numbers is all a bit too late. timing volunteers cant see the bike number plates, because some riders don't clean bike plates between each race
There are iron-on blank sheets you can buy online. Trace your number(s) and cut them out and iron them on.
I think a lot of sports wear shops sell individual iron-on numbers as well.
You can also use a square of white cotton (an old sheet or tee shirt) and paint the number(s) on with fabric paint. Then it's just a matter of securing to your jersey....hook and loop tape (velcro) works and is also available as an iron-on.
its not that hard TBM as you've mentioned in the second paragraph :)
No, it's not that hard Alison. Electrical tape doesn't last long on the back of a sweaty or wet jersey though....Cleaning number plates is null and void when transponders are being used. It takes the human aspect out of lap scoring. Just for the record, I do clean my number plates, along with any other built up mud on the bike 8)
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Even with transponders there is still manual back up just in case something goes wrong with the transponders. There is still lap scorers in the tower as well. Sometimes they just use their sheets to double check. Transponders are not fool proof (ask WEM)
Also it looks better and is good for spectators also.
As for numbers at the PCMXC every effort will be made to let riders use their normal number, but there will be some clashes.
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How about this then?
For some time I have thought the gear we wear is too modern in style for the bikes we ride but if you look at pics from the day we all wore bibs from time to time.
Soooo, why not approach the major sponsor to provide bibs for the racers....complete with their logo and the numbers on. That way they will get heaps more value as all pics for mags and even for garage walls will have their logo on them....forever!!
Just sayin'.
I still have bibs from Hang Ten....1977 Nationals from ACUSA park and Camel from 1987 world sidecar cross.
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Our Penrith club has bibs made in house, quite attractive and at a reasonable cost. They're durable and easily wiped clean with a wet cloth.
I was concerned over the possible difficulty at an open meeting with number change so I got an allocated number through M.A.
I also went back in history and got my old allocated No 883.
cheers pancho
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WAVMX always has bibs at the Nats, great club spirit. I still have mine from last time WA hosted at Narrogin, complete with Jeff Smith and Jimmie Aird autographs.
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If you ride somewhere and you can't use your regular number. turn your bib inside out and stick your allocated number on the inside! ;)
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geezas guys,where else would you put the target ;D ;D, :P
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So we agree that bibs are the go then.
We did a quick check with some sports shops and they do netball bibs for about $12.00 but that's in cotton.
Vinyl are more like $35.00 in low quantaties but will last years longer and as said above, they can be turned inside out etc... for other uses.
We need to talk to Shannons, Penrite, Lucas et al to see what they think....but go to them with some pics of old GP riders and Mr MX meets with them in use and describe how they are around for years.
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Never been a fan of bibs, Rather stick number on armour or shirt.
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www.vintageracewear.co.uk
Camel bibs - but expensive at 24.5 GBP
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Camel bib arrived today.
10 days from order.
Great quality and service.
Thanks to all for feedback.