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Clubroom => General Discussion => Topic started by: jimg1au on December 05, 2013, 07:53:54 pm
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Another dishonest member on this forum
Be careful when getting people to pick bikes and parts up
A friend of mine got a bike picked up by a forum member and del
He charged him $100.00 for petrol. all seamed good
Now the kicker
1 part was missing from the road race bike. So he rang the seller
To ask were the part was and was told there should be 1 in the
3 6 speed road racing gearboxes 2 being nos.to my friends shock
He said to the seller i never got them. The seller said he told the forum member
That they were to go with the bike along with pistons(received) boxes of road race spark plugs
(only 1 received) and the racing sprockets that went with the road race bike(not received)
My friend was told that the forum member sold the gearboxes on eBay(later confirmed to my friend
By the forum member)
THIS STINKS
PEOPLE BE CARFULL GETTING OTHER PERSONS TO PICK STUFF UP FOR YOU
YOU KNOW HOW YOU ARE
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Yeah Simo, if you ask me again I'm gonna rip you off ;D
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That's a bit sad >:( but that's the world we live in :o
I picked up a bike a few weeks back for the first time for a forum member and stored it till he had it picked up ;) never meet the bloke :)
but I can be trusted ;)
I hope that helps me to be one of the good blokes on the forum ;)
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The converse is when you get help by someone like Ted. Picked up by bike and gear, stored it for 6 weeks and transported up to the Nats. He couldn't have been more honest or helpful. One of the reasons why I enjoy being part of our VMX community.
Cheers
Ken
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I have had countless folk here help me out across the country with several different things, some of which have been rather large and impressive favours with nothing too much trouble. Many bikes transported at very very small costs and never a problem, i have also helped out many, picked up/tansported/stored bikes. Even had my garage entered on more then one occasion by people who i have never ( physically ) met to retrieve their goods and again not one single hitch! The vast majority here are "old school" honest and highly trustworthy, something i highly respect and appreciate.
BUT there is always a bad egg in the carton somewhere, i really cant understand why anyone would do such a thing.... It's such a small community and you'll never escape without being found out, i hope fella got plenty of money for what he sold and the things that didnt belong to him, cause he's gonna need the money to fund some other hobby now he can never be comfortable in attending another bike event. Is your loved hobby and passion only worth a few bucks? Cause thats what you've cost yourself for the sake of a quick ( dishonest ) buck.
Whoever you are buddy you can rest assured that the only train that is always on time and never misses a stop is the KARMA TRAIN! And when it hits you i hope it makes a very large BANG! ;)
Cheers, Brendan
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as always cup half full half empty... I was a stalker for a long time , and observered some bitch bitch fights.....but also been aided by others who are locked into bikes rather crap ..................and have helped and delivered on their word 100% ....thx WHITEY.
their is always good buggers , but scum floats to the surface...
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That's a bit sad >:( but that's the world we live in :o
I picked up a bike a few weeks back for the first time for a forum member and stored it till he had it picked up ;) never meet the bloke :)
but I can be trusted ;)
I hope that helps me to be one of the good blokes on the forum ;)
And lm the bloke :)
Mick, you're being a bit modest mate. He checked the bike out for me, l put money in Micks account so he could buy it for me and then he picked it up and stored it until l got it picked up, l could not have bought this bike without your help mick ;D then Rookie let me get it dropt off at his place and kept it overnight until l got it the next day. Oh, he wasn't home either just told me where the key was to his shed......
Thanks again :)
Good or bad, what goes around comes around 8)
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Well i recon that's the lowest dogs act if you have the proof out him so others don't get caught
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The tragedy of situations like this is that they undermine the trust within the VMX community. I and I'm sure most of you have used the forums old mate network to purchase bikes and parts, have bikes transported and picked up, parts loaned or borrowed, had eBay items bought for me by our American mates from sellers who wouldn't deal with me here in Oz and a shitload of other transactions with nary a hint of a problem. When I was seriously ill in 2011 and 2012 the support I received from forum members, many of them face to face strangers was beyond amazing. I've also sold bikes and parts and help anyone who asks in any way I can but that's nothing out of the ordinary, so have most of us....it's all a part of the tight community on here.
I heard of the incident that Jim described a bit earlier in the week from another friend and to be honest I didn't believe it then but now that I've learned a bit more I'm beginning to believe its true and quite frankly it makes me a bit nauseous. I'm disappointed a VMX brother would do such a thing to another brother and what makes it worse is that I've met the bloke being accused and I like him. Thankfully 99.9% of the people I've dealt with are straight shooters so let's not let this blip on the radar spoil it for the good ones.
I really hope this turns out to be a mistake or a 'lost in translation' situation.
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In february this year i sold a Honda cr125, to a friend, a club member of the same club and I stored the bike for 3 months, and then i took the bike to a lismore club meeting VIC as the friend was going to pick up the CR at the club meeting, another member and myself put the bike it the large shed thinking it would be safe, I put the muffler on the work bench next to bike, then i drove home when the friend came the next day to pick the bike up, the genuine elsinore muffler was gone. I was so angry when I heard about it, that I told the club to put a right up in the news letter for that person to return it. it never was return.
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Just had Yamaico Pete inspect, help with transport, pay for (with my money ;D ) and store a bike for me. Luckily people like Pete are by far in the majority on here.
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This sort of thing REALLY BURNS me, VMX is a small world, its OUR world, Firko, you seem to friends with both parties, how about a bit of mediation, if it turns out its true then the person needs to be banned from this forum and NAMED, these sort of people tend to sit back and laugh at the rest of us if they are allowed to get away with it, seriously this sort of shit spreads if its allowed to fester.
Kt.
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Just had Yamaico Pete inspect, help with transport, pay for (with my money ;D ) and store a bike for me. Luckily people like Pete are by far the majority of guys on here.
Pete's been a mate for over 20 years and you're right, he's one of the good guys. Considering he spends 75% of his time overseas I don't know how he fits in his amazing specials, building his dream house and helping out others with their projects. He's definitely a keeper ;D. I haven't forgotten the support you showed me when I was sick too Paul. I've still got the CDs on full rotation in the car ;D. The good stories far outweigh the bad.
This sort of thing REALLY BURNS me, VMX is a small world, its OUR world, Firko, you seem to friends with both parties, how about a bit of mediation, if it turns out its true then the person needs to be banned from this forum and NAMED, these sort of people tend to sit back and laugh at the rest of us if they are allowed to get away with it, seriously this sort of shit spreads if its allowed to fester.
I'm not friends with either, I know the guy who was ripped off through the races, as do most of the Sydney classic dirt track and road race community and I've met the accused through this forum and at the races. I'd prefer to stay well away from getting involved.
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Ive only had great dealings with members , Like Firko Ive had bikes and parts moved all around the country and even bought parts paid for by others in the US (thanks Farmpro ) extensive repairs (Yamaico ) . Ive tried to repay these deeds by helping out others in our fraternity with parts or tech help . Karma will be repaid . Iain
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Yeah Simo, if you ask me again I'm gonna rip you off ;D
Shouldn't that be "I'm gonna rip you off too" Ted :P :P ;D .. but you would never do that mate :)
But FFS don't mention my name in this thread .. even jokingly. After Davey accused me of selling Foxy a Dud I've had no interest in any of the bikes I'm trying to sell. Even deleted the thread and readvertised.
Let's make it clear that I know nothing of what Jim is referring to please. But to make it even easier for the reader and to clear up any speculation Jim you need to name the person. Also that will ensure that nobody else gets caught out.
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Jim,if you're 100% certain you've been ripped off you should name the person so other forum members(that don't know him) don't get caught out.It never surprises me any more what some folk will do for a quick buck.NAME and SHAME.Dishonest people need to be identified!What will he do if you name him- go to the cops? I don't think so.
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when you say Another dishonest member on this forum ,who are the others?
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......buckle up people, this thread could get ugly.
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In february this year i sold a Honda cr125, to a friend, a club member of the same club and I stored the bike for 3 months, and then i took the bike to a lismore club meeting VIC as the friend was going to pick up the CR at the club meeting, another member and myself put the bike it the large shed thinking it would be safe, I put the muffler on the work bench next to bike, then i drove home when the friend came the next day to pick the bike up, the genuine elsinore muffler was gone. I was so angry when I heard about it, that I told the club to put a right up in the news letter for that person to return it. it never was return.
I had plenty of little things pinched from the same club.....and never got anything returned...
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Jim,if you're 100% certain you've been ripped off you should name the person so other forum members(that don't know him) don't get caught out.It never surprises me any more what some folk will do for a quick buck.NAME and SHAME.Dishonest people need to be identified!What will he do if you name him- go to the cops? I don't think so.
To be clear here, Jim's not the person who had his parts stolen and sold so it'd be unwise for him to name names without legal advise. The proper thing would be for the alleged culprit to quietly make things right to the person who was ripped off or failing that, to explain his actions. It's not up to Jim, me or anyone else to out him any further than what's been done. I won't be long before the fella's identity spreads through the VMX movement.
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I won't be long before the fella's identity spreads through the VMX movement.
Maybe you could PM me the names please Mark
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Maybe you could PM me the names please Mark
Sorry Simo I don't want to kick off a flame war. As yo well know these things can easily turn to shit so I don't want to be the instigator. Word will eventually get out but it won't be via this computer.
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Maybe you could PM me the names please Mark
Sorry Simo I don't want to kick off a flame war. As yo well know these things can easily turn to shit so I don't want to be the instigator. Word will eventually get out but it won't be via this computer.
Would remain confidential with me Mark just want to know so I don't deal with the alleged party anytime in the future.
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The fact that the forum member has fessed up that he on sold the parts ( in Jims opening post ) shows remorse .
Hopefully both parties can sort it out between themselves .
Speculation on this forum will just lead to a shit fight and we probably don't need anymore of those on here .
As Firko says its a small community and word will go round pretty quick anyway . No i don't know either party and don't want to know .
Its a sad thing but witch hunting on here wont fix whats past .
I have just read what i have written and it seems all a bit grown up for me ;D
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I trust every one on this site [maybe I shouldn't] send out clutch covers get payed later if I do get ripped off that will stop I would like to know who not to send things to
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As Firko says its a small community and word will go round pretty quick anyway . No i don't know either party and don't want to know .
Its a sad thing but witch hunting on here wont fix whats past .
I have just read what i have written and it seems all a bit grown up for me ;D
No witch hunt here but Jim raised this topic for what reason? I think to alert people and maybe vent his disgust a bit? Whatever his rationale it would be nice to be informed so nobody else gets caught in the same situation.
Also if the information is available then making it public stops the Chinese whispers that a small community might create.
I think that being open and honest is being grown up Bill :)
This is my last post on the subject ........ thankfully I hear you all mutter to yourselves :)
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what Jimbo's post is basically about is hoping to prick the guys concience,i went with John the 75year old super senior to pick up the bike from the transportee,(suss middle man),neither at the time knowing about the extras that were specifically allotted to the bike,why they wern't included surprised me as well,(when we found out later),changed my thoughts entirely about this person,we live & learn,i don't think name & shames necessary,i'd guess it's not going to happen again no time soon!!,(a momentary lapse of reason),in a nutshell the 6 speed bully gearboxes were earmarked road race items,thats the worse loss,so forking rare, John lives,breathes race bultaco 24/7,for someone knowingly to deny John those oppotunities alone,thats the tragic part,we can choose our friends,not our family,mick
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No witch hunt here but Jim raised this topic for what reason? I think to alert people and maybe vent his disgust a bit? Whatever his rationale it would be nice to be informed so nobody else gets caught in the same situation.
Also if the information is available then making it public stops the Chinese whispers that a small community might create.
I think that being open and honest is being grown up Bill :)
This is my last post on the subject ........ thankfully I hear you all mutter to yourselves :)
I understand your concerns Simo but I I think it should be up to John the bloke who lost his parts as to whether the alleged culprit is outed or not. My moral concern is that all of this is second hand word of mouth information so I feel that the onus on outing the alleged culprit is solely on the shoulders of the actual bloke who was ripped off. He's not a member of this forum but is known to many of us so unless he gives the OK I don't think it's Jims, mine or anyone else's right to out the guy. We're not privy to what's going on between them.
And before I get outed myself, I haven't forgotten the clutch plates I borrowed from you at the Nats Simo. I just haven't had a chance to get them out of the Cheney yet. My apologies mate but things have been a tad hectic since the Nats. I haven't lifted a spanner in the shed due to all sorts of family situations. I'll try and get to it this weekend mate ;)
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Like every one else I have had help by members on the this forum and other forums and I have helped other members as well.
But to say nothing and shelter a low life like him is not going to stop him doing it again.
Out him . Shame him .
It could be you or me next time if we are not told who he is..
The Stig
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And before I get outed myself, I haven't forgotten the clutch plates I borrowed from you at the Nats Simo. I just haven't had a chance to get them out of the Cheney yet. My apologies mate but things have been a tad hectic since the Nats. I haven't lifted a spanner in the shed due to all sorts of family situations. I'll try and get to it this weekend mate ;)
Okay so this is a post on a different subject :)
No need to out yourself Mark, you can keep the clutch plates mate. There were only the two you needed, they were second hand anyway, I don't need a full set and only carry them in case I break one plate but mine are all new so I should be okay for a while unless I get super aggressive on the clutch (not going to happen).
For the trouble it's worth to take them out, please keep them.
Cheers ;)
Craig
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And before I get outed myself, I haven't forgotten the clutch plates I borrowed from you at the Nats Simo. I just haven't had a chance to get them out of the Cheney yet. My apologies mate but things have been a tad hectic since the Nats. I haven't lifted a spanner in the shed due to all sorts of family situations. I'll try and get to it this weekend mate ;)
Okay so this is a post on a different subject :)
No need to out yourself Mark, you can keep the clutch plates mate. There were only the two you needed, they were second hand anyway, I don't need a full set and only carry them in case I break one plate but mine are all new so I should be okay for a while unless I get super aggressive onteh clutch (not going to happen).
For the trouble it's worth to take them out, please keep them.
Cheers ;)
Cheers
Craig
Simo your a top bloke :) that the attitude that makes this forum the great place it is to hang out :)
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I trust every one on this site [maybe I shouldn't] send out clutch covers get payed later if I do get ripped off that will stop I would like to know who not to send things to
I sent a few guys their parts for CD5, I would normally have sent them COD but decided to send them express post to make sure they got them in time for the event. They all sought me out and paid me at the event bar one who never returned e-mails or calls again. Not sure if he was ever a forum member.
Also sent an exhaust express post so someone could get it in time for another CD but it took 6 months to get a dollar out of him and even then he short changed me.
My 'black book' isn’t very big at all, most guys you meet in this game are pretty straight but you need to be careful of who you send out parts to.
The fact that the forum member has fessed up that he on sold the parts ( in Jims opening post ) shows remorse .
Hopefully both parties can sort it out between themselves .
Speculation on this forum will just lead to a shit fight and we probably don't need anymore of those on here .
As Firko says its a small community and word will go round pretty quick anyway . No i don't know either party and don't want to know .
Its a sad thing but witch hunting on here wont fix whats past .
I have just read what i have written and it seems all a bit grown up for me ;D
Who are you and what have you done with TM Bill ;D
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bill you have been a bit odd since you went to the dark side!!!
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Im going through a cleansing stage chaps ;) it could take a while given my history ;D
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I have dealt with heaps of guys on here, sold many Works Performance shocks to them and other bits and pieces, all posted before payment was received, I have never been duded, there are some real nice people on this forum, we might have some shit fights and spats every now and again but at the end of the day 99.9% of the people are good guys.
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ok,got more plausable info,turns out it's a giant clusterfork,unintentional,seller discribes stuff,emits factual overload,nothing written,marked seperate,just relying on conversational expediency at point of pickup,basically (that word again),don't shoot me i'm only the messenger scenario,all please chill before it gets anymore ugly than it is,mick
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i have a bike here for someone to collect. its out the back now as i cant bring it in, so at some point if anyone is going up to qld can you give simo a yell :O). PPS there is nothing on a YZ100 i need to raid......yet
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I have dealt with heaps of guys on here, sold many Works Performance shocks to them and other bits and pieces, all posted before payment was received, I have never been duded, there are some real nice people on this forum, we might have some shit fights and spats every now and again but at the end of the day 99.9% of the people are good guys.
To quote GMC "who are you and what have you done with Joan? :D"
Very true though ;)
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Even though we all privately love a good public stoush it might be time to lock or remove this topic.
I'm glad it's been sorted because John's one of our sports true gentleman, there aren't many of us left. :P
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Just trying to place John . Are we talking about John S from Canberra , a slightly one eyed Bultaco supporter . If we are then all I can say is he's a top bloke ,had the pleasure of banging bars with him at Heaven 8 or 9 years ago . Iain
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Sounding like there might more of a backstory to this one and I can't see it going anywhere useful, so yep, it's locked.