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Clubroom => General Discussion => Topic started by: FAT-TOY on September 01, 2013, 10:08:26 am
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Like a lot of you blokes I use a heap of the thin cut off disc's on my grinders and buying the cheap Chinese shit is a waste of money and time and good brand like Flexavit can become expensive. A while back I went halves with a mate and purchased 50 Makita brand disc's off ebay for about $50 and they were ok at around $1 each. This time we took the risk on an unknown brand.
( RTM ) 125mm 5" CUTTING DISC WHEEL ANGLE GRINDER CUT OFF METAL STEEL STAINLESS x100
They turned up and I tried them out on Friday. Cut through a 40mm bar then measured the disc it had only worn .2 of a mm which to me makes it as good a quality as the Flexavit. The difference is they only cost me $53.95 for a 100 of them with free delivery, that's around $0.54 each instead of $2.30 to $2.70 each for Flexavit, depending on where you buy them. I won't make my final decision on them until I have used them a few more times and on different materials but at the moment they look to be the goods.
Zane
Postage: Free postage
Payment date: 27-Aug-13
Estimated delivery: Mon. 2 Sep.
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Thanks Good tip, let us know the end result
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More offerings from PRC.
(http://i677.photobucket.com/albums/vv132/mc125mick/2013-09-01103814_zps8aadeb0d.jpg~original)
Bunnings clear old brands when they stitch up a deal with a new supplier.
When they changed to Makita discs they dropped these, I rolled the dice and bought the lot, 50+, $1 each.
I've been hanging off 9"A/G's for over 30 years and these are the best hard wearing slitting/discs I have ever used, hands down.
They leave flexavit for dead.
For "Stainless", is always a reasonable bet.
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Im fussy as heck with the ultra thin ones as I have had the cheap ones explode so I only buy Flexovit so I like to know how some of these cheaper ones go?
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Im fussy as heck with the ultra thin ones as I have had the cheap ones explode so I only buy Flexovit so I like to know how some of these cheaper ones go?
My words exactly. I had one let go just recently and it nearly creamed my little Jack Russell, not to mention putting a gouge in my nice Cheney tank. It was a $2 shop cheapy...my bad, back to Flexovit unless Zane's uncovered a new source of quality discs.
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A while ago I stupidly bought a cheap wire wheel for on the angle grinder.
The vibration when I turned it on should have been enough of a warning, but I pressed on regardless. It came apart shortly after grabbing the frame, jumping out of my grip and into my chest.
Lucky my shirt was strong enough to grab it and stall the grinder. ::)
But I saved a couple of dollars!!! ::)
A little bit of bark off and another good reminder of how much crap is being sold out there these days. :-\
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A while ago I stupidly bought a cheap wire wheel for on the angle grinder.
The vibration when I turned it on should have been enough of a warning, but I pressed on regardless. It came apart shortly after grabbing the frame, jumping out of my grip and into my chest.
Lucky my shirt was strong enough to grab it and stall the grinder. ::)
But I saved a couple of dollars!!! ::)
A little bit of bark off and another good reminder of how much crap is being sold out there these days. :-\
I like it when the wires randomly fly out and leave you looking like a porcupine.
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Pferd sell a good product, not cheap.
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was a program on here not long ago [A&E or rescue helicopter program] where a poor guy had 'just that', either a big cut off wheel or an angle grinder wheel came to bits & went into his head, maybe eye but now think somewhere by his ear. He did survive but hell it wasn't good to see [when your having your evening meal!!]. Bought a cheapy chinese cut off wheel a few years back when i had to rebuild our rusty old general use trailer. Used all the heavy pipe from around the old cow shed & the machine is still going [$60 by memory]--BUT, the original wheel started flying to bits from the first cut, so bought a good disc. Surprised the unit itself is still going but not used much nowdays.
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My next door neighbour was laying under his car cutting the exhaust pipe off with a 9 inch angle grinder so he could replace the muffler. The disc jammed and pulled the grinder from his hands, the trigger was locked on and when it dislodged it hit the ground and flew at him and he had to keep fending it off until he gained control again. When he got home from the hospital he came in for a beer, his hands looked like he had been hand feeding tiger sharks.
Zane
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Will never buy a 9 inch grinder or let any of my blokes use one. In these days of work over I can't believe they are sold still. Eventually a licence wil be required for them and chainsaws.
The thin 5 inch blades are the best thing ever and I will be checking out ebay me thinks.
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Don't ever consider cheap in price / quality disks for a Stihl 14 or 16 inch petrol demolition saw! Ever! >:(
Matter of fact do not attempt without proper instruction from an experienced operator to use one. These stupid building renovation shows letting amateurs loose with them.... Kickback ,fire , dust, sharps, disk collapse..... >:(
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My next door neighbour was laying under his car cutting the exhaust pipe off with a 9 inch angle grinder so he could replace the muffler. The disc jammed and pulled the grinder from his hands, the trigger was locked on and when it dislodged it hit the ground and flew at him and he had to keep fending it off until he gained control again. When he got home from the hospital he came in for a beer, his hands looked like he had been hand feeding tiger sharks.
Zane
That is an example of why lock triggers are now banned in industry. At a shut down on treasure island, a locked on 9 incher got away in an enclosed vessel and decimated the operator. and I mean decimated.
There is a REAL problem now with such weapons, these days anyone in the uneducated public can afford the full range them.
Ask any triage nurse how regular grinder injuries are.
I was partnered to a beautiful triage nurse with big tits for seven years.
other injuries she said that were more common than you would think are;
-eyes hanging out of their sockets because of a slipped "occa strap"
-bad toe injuries from lawn mowers(I guess, inappropriate foot ware)
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Geez, come to think about it, I could go on, but I will spare ya's,
She told about a lot of really spun out shit.
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When i was at Superior Pak there was a toolbox meeting called to tell us 9 inch angle grinders are banned,too many accidents within the Transpacifc Industries group(6000) employees Australia wide,we used them all the time but you really had to be on the ball(no daydreaming ;))
cheers Dale.
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yeah ive heard stories of disc exploding and taking off ball(s) etc but disc come apart coz of jamming and miss use,there not for the unskilled operator that's for sure and true as someone said there should be a made to go to safety course and be taught on how to use one properly ;D
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I am fortunate to have been given a BHP education. Nothing was more important than safety.
As a young apprentice, them real to real horror injury movies were actually the first horror movies I ever saw.
I haven't forgotten them.
Although I did a full lock to lock tank slapper at 100 and 70 K's once in a setting sun. I spotted an object in the road in the last micro second. I was very fit and strong way back then and I squeezed on to the grips for all hell.
My hands went with the bars as it smacked, smacked, smaked form lock to locks.
Every time I pick up a Nine inch A/G with slitting intention, I plan my cut in steps and think of that incident and prepare myself right before I squeeze my grip on it, like I did that 750 Yammie. every time
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yeah ive heard stories of disc exploding and taking off ball(s) etc but disc come apart coz of jamming and miss use,there not for the unskilled operator that's for sure and true as someone said there should be a made to go to safety course and be taught on how to use one properly ;D
Oh that's just great hey, you mean human balls :-[
Farout, I spared you. but you haven't spare me.
I will probably lay awake all night shacking in the fetal position whilst two handed cupping my googlies :-[
Faaaar*
anyone want a Bosch 9" a/g
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9 inch angle grinders are banned for good reason in most industrial workplaces for good reason. It worries me that people on this forum still use them knowing full well the risks :( Why take the chance? Racing old dirt bikes exposes us to enough risks without adding to it in the workplace or around the shed :-\ We can't live in cotton wool but some things we might do are just dumb sometimes ::)
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Spose I 'd better whack my (5"grinder/thin blade) juggling result in here :)
Tickled the femoral artery a bit ,which sprung a leak when the nurse in emergency started pokin around in the hole, which caused a bit of stife for a while :-\
(http://i1260.photobucket.com/albums/ii576/KAB171/photo.jpg) (http://s1260.photobucket.com/user/KAB171/media/photo.jpg.html)
They patched it up OK but it looks a bit like a bloody Suzuki emblem :(
(http://i1260.photobucket.com/albums/ii576/KAB171/2.jpg) (http://s1260.photobucket.com/user/KAB171/media/2.jpg.html)
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yeah ive heard stories of disc exploding and taking off ball(s) etc but disc come apart coz of jamming and miss use,there not for the unskilled operator that's for sure and true as someone said there should be a made to go to safety course and be taught on how to use one properly ;D
Exactly. Unless you know how they work/cut stay away from them.
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This is what a wafer disc did to me recently, been using them for years just made a silly mistake, had some ligaments strung back together. Luckily it all seems to work ok so far, worst part was I missed two club days racing.
(http://i1305.photobucket.com/albums/s558/Firekwaka1/2013-08-15210939_zps452ec696.jpg) (http://s1305.photobucket.com/user/Firekwaka1/media/2013-08-15210939_zps452ec696.jpg.html)
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You are very lucky FireKwaka, but sorry, KB wins that one
(http://i1260.photobucket.com/albums/ii576/KAB171/photo.jpg)
Faaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr* you really need a suntan KB.
Your right but, it is a pretty cool signature accessory, just got to find a chic that digs Suzuki's, shouldn't be too hard 8)
Anyhow got to go, Housos has just started on SBS 8) Frankie might have the thong out again :D ;D ;D ;D ;D :o
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hell you guys live dangerously, i'll loose sleep tonight after looking at those pics--those pics should come in the manual of every one of those sold by the sounds of it. [feel for you guys]. Been complaining [to my self] for 20 years that my old 115mm black & decker slide switch has to be held on [forward] to keep going. Complain 'no more'. Just remembering back to our lathe at work, had a few scares [well lots really] doing things we shouldn't so the boss went out & bought a foot control which was a good thing.
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Ah, its allright, theres an ad on, fggin SBS, wtf?
Just remembering back to our lathe at work, had a few scares [well lots really] doing things we shouldn't so the boss went out & bought a foot control which was a good thing.
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :)
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Had a look at those photo's. First job in the morning put the guards back on the grinder.
Zane
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Faaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr* you really need a suntan KB.
The back of me workstrides were a shade of tan after that episode MICK :-[
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Faaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr* you really need a suntan KB.
The back of me workstrides were a shade of tan after that episode MICK :-[
Yeah that don't surprise me KB ;D :)
First job in the morning put the guards back on the grinder.
Zane
Your gotta to kiddin, aren't ya Zane?
That's it, I'm gunna nominate ya for the thrill-seekers hall of fame mate, I hope ya balls weren't hangin down when you had the guard off ::) now that would be just tempting fate :o
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Mick I took it off the 4 inch grinder to do a job a while back and hadn't got around to replacing it.
BUT IT'S DONE NOW.
Zane
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Good work ;)
I built a bull bar racks and under boxes for this trucky once.
One Under-box didn't quite fit, He grabbed his own 4" black and decker, NO GUARD,,,,,,,,
I said, "Thats really dangerous mate, at least move your head out of the line of fire",,,,,,
he laughed at me ;D
The thing jammed, it was one of the thicker grinding discs. We were at the back of my property,
but we heard nearlyistantly a loud bang of a major fragment striking the tin roof across the front road.
Edge surface speed, EIGHTY METERS IN/PER ONE SECOND,, WHAT A CENTRIFUGAL DEPARTURE
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Fark! Ive had a few close calls with grinders. I actually had a 9" cut off explode all around me once while cutting a C purlin on a shed I was building. It didn't jam or anything. It just let go for no apparent reason. I didn't get a mark on me but geezus it taught me to show the bloody thing some respect.
Then there was the time I was using the 4" grinder wheel wearing a flanno that wasn't tucked in and the grinder grabbed hold of the shirt, ripped the tool out of my hands and run up my guts heading straight for the throat. Luckily the shirt jammed the sucker before it could do real damage. I've got a good scar on my guts from the graze though.
Even using the flapper discs is fraught with danger. I've still got a few fresh wounds on my hand from just touching flesh for a nano second while holding the piece I was sanding.
It took a while for the humble quad bike to overtake the grinder as the number 1 cause of serious injury on farms. And for good bloody reason!
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A few years back they brought out a 4' saw blade that you could fit to your grinder for those "fiddly jobs in tight spaces" now if you think grinding blades are dangerouse think about what these suckers could do.
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Geez your right, that is a deadset horror story whating to happen :'( no retractable guard.
What were they thinking ??? :(
Good thread, it has me thinking, prevention is better than cure.
I will have a young grandson in my shed soon enough.
I can lock the door for now ???
But I will now get a secure cabinet for these weapon of flesh and bone destruction.
And lockout the power supply on lathes, borer, miller, bench grinder etc.
Never been so grateful for a thread in my life.