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as above. sidecar MX pics Past and present , Racing or stationary.
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Good looking rig what year are we talking ?
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the pics above are a 1986 KTM540 EML.
this one below is Bill Williams/Bruce Linsdell 1985 CR500 EML taken at Newry, Vic back in the day. one of the best pics i have seen!
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What's this all about, Hoony?
You getting old need 3 wheels, eh? ;D
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How good is that top photo Tony ;) Are the clouds natural or were they a later addition? Whichever, its a beautiful, evocative shot.
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Yeah i agree Firko, that is a great pic, almost has a Fantasy feel to it.
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Great shots keep em comin......
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RIP Stephen Smith and Jim Colligan. Great sidecar champions from Ballarat.
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Rallycross at Calder
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I remember seeing a pic of a chair flying over another one kinda like the Georges Jobe shot...... ???
Does that ring a bell with anyone?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2IuOnkTHK0
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Oh, what has become of my life? :'(
I watched all of that video, Stan....... and enjoyed it........ ::)
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Oh, what has become of my life? :'(
I watched all of that video, Stan....... and enjoyed it........ ::)
:D :D Tony, I grew up in a motorcycle club where I was the odd one out on a solo ;D We had a number of great sidecar teams that were all very helpful guys even to us solo riders.
Stan.
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Please see thread for VMX Mag on VMX Sidecar article and put your hand up ;) please, come on we have a good chance, put the pics and people on here first if ya want. cheers
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her is ya front wheel Tim ;)(http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q721/shelpi1/petessidecar060_zpsbb460c0e.jpg) (http://s1356.photobucket.com/user/shelpi1/media/petessidecar060_zpsbb460c0e.jpg.html)
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Shelpi what do you have the bracing arm (the mind has forgotten it's correct title..) on the twin leader attached to? It should be back to the down tubes not on the shock bolt or lower swinging arm. If mounted in those positions when you apply the brake the front end will rise up with the transfer of the forces. Not good for the handling. I made that mistake on an earlier front end and it was pointed out to me, the fella bodged up a new STAY at the track for us, out of his spare bits and pieces in his trailer and fitted it up in the correct place. Made a huge difference. Perhaps it is in the correct spot but not visible in the photo.
Here is what I am bunging on about. The stay on front brake goes back to the down tube. Naturally it is a floating fit, not solid.
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Yes that's it the ....stay..... ::)
Good grief post number 3000... I got ta grow up....
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Shelpi what do you have the bracing arm (the mind has forgotten it's correct title..) on the twin leader attached to? It should be back to the down tubes not on the shock bolt or lower swinging arm. If mounted in those positions when you apply the brake the front end will rise up with the transfer of the forces. Not good for the handling. I made that mistake on an earlier front end and it was pointed out to me, the fella bodged up a new arm at the track for us out of his spare bits and pieces in his trailer and fitted it up in the correct place . Huge difference. Perhaps it is in the correct spot but not visible in the photo.
Here is what I am bunging on about. The stay on front brake goes back to the down tube. Naturally it is a floating fit, not solid.
(http://i951.photobucket.com/albums/ad360/tdee754/scc.jpg) (http://s951.photobucket.com/user/tdee754/media/scc.jpg.html)
Yes that's it the ....stay..... ::)
Good grief post number 3000... I got ta grow up....
Yep thats exactly what happened the first time we put the front brake on (and it hadnt even got out of the shed) we was in a curry in a hurry and had to go with it, :o got used to it plus no time to change always something makeing me freak out man, but in my opinion I think your front wheel likes it :-X we have all the correct mounting specs but it will be an off season job ::) or maybe its now how we like it ;) 8) actualy I think it helps :o ??? :P :-X
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Thats a sweet looking bit of kit Tim 8)
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Not a close shot.78 Lancelin WA .Thanks Peter Kitchingham(http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r259/vmx247/Lancelin20197820pits20copy_zps49be5c73.jpg) (http://s146.photobucket.com/user/vmx247/media/Lancelin20197820pits20copy_zps49be5c73.jpg.html)
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Ahhh look at the cars in the car park. Some are called Australian Ford Falcons, new ones are about to join the Tasmanian dodo dinosaurs :(
I give up Alison, Where are the Wally's on sidecars???? No32 maybe?
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thanx for jumping on Les, great effort mate ;) :)
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Where are the Wally's on sidecars???? No32 maybe?
That’s Cliff Cook standing next to his bike in the red leathers with Yellow top. His long time passenger was Geoff Holmes who is standing next to him to the right.
The next bike is Ken Gordon’s #8 with my cousin John Steyntjes sitting on the sidecar guard wearing a blue top. John went on to passenger for Cliff and they raced in Europe together.
Most of these WA outfits from the Peter Kitchingham Photo Collection are still attending events. cheers A
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Not the usual configuration of pilot/passenger,though they still had a fat time 8)
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Great pic Alison the passenger looks so relaxed
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They always LOOK relaxed...then they face plant ;D
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They always LOOK relaxed...then they face plant ;D
completely tensed they body slam ;D
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1978 Suzuki Sunshine State Series - Tivoli
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RIP Stephen Smith and Jim Colligan. Great sidecar champions from Ballarat.
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1976 Australian Titles, Tivoli
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arr da little people Gillman Auzzie titles 2013(http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q721/shelpi1/DSC_0599_zps50591290.jpg) (http://s1356.photobucket.com/user/shelpi1/media/DSC_0599_zps50591290.jpg.html)
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greetings earthlings....... Auzzie nats 2013(http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q721/shelpi1/1377560_10151941714654785_650823858_n_zpsa2fc296b.jpg) (http://s1356.photobucket.com/user/shelpi1/media/1377560_10151941714654785_650823858_n_zpsa2fc296b.jpg.html)
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1978 Suzuki Sunshine State Series - Tivoli
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Looks like Allan Hill and Mal McNaught. Allan bought a Wasp and made mild steel copies to get the sport going up here. Was quick and finished second in an Aussie title one year. Mal (r.i.p.)was the best passenger we had for a long time and could swing on anything from road racing to trials.
In fact Allan and Mal converted the old Wasp for vintage road racing and could slide it around on skinnies at Lakeside, much to the crowds delight.
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1978 Suzuki Sunshine State Series - Tivoli
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Looks like Allan Hill and Mal McNaught. Allan bought a Wasp and made mild steel copies to get the sport going up here. Was quick and finished second in an Aussie title one year. Mal (r.i.p.)was the best passenger we had for a long time and could swing on anything from road racing to trials.
In fact Allan and Mal converted the old Wasp for vintage road racing and could slide it around on skinnies at Lakeside, much to the crowds delight.
:)
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A big thanx to Scotty from JSC sidecars for jumping on and for all your good work, thanx mate ;) :)
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One of these guys knows what they are doing, the other is trying to learn!
Does anyone recognise the bike and driver?
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Correct 8)
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Well I dunno about swung, more like hang on try not to fall out the back! Near Schleitheim
Yes what a privilege to have had the opportunity to meet and ride with arguably the greatest driver of all time, on the world championship winning bike
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Sorry, that photo really shouldn't be on here it's not VMX ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Well I dunno about swung, more like hang on try not to fall out the back! Near Schleitheim
Yes what a privilege to have had the opportunity to meet and ride with arguably the greatest driver of all time, on the world championship winning bike
good stuff ;D
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Sorry, that photo really shouldn't be on here it's not VMX ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
what are the details, frame, year? cheers ;)
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'86-'87 EML Jumbo 800 twin cyl
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'86-'87 EML Jumbo 800 twin cyl
8) Excellent ;) so it was lacking horse power then :) :D ;D :o
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Good stuff Matt, I meet him at vaughns place one day, bloody nice bloke.
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'86-'87 EML Jumbo 800 twin cyl
8) Excellent ;) so it was lacking horse power then :) :D ;D :o
Yeah man, pretty flat really :o
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'86-'87 EML Jumbo 800 twin cyl
8) Excellent ;) so it was lacking horse power then :) :D ;D :o
Yeah man, pretty flat really :o
:), hey have you got anymore pics to look at? please!
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Here ya go Shelpi!
A nice lightweight 2 stroke! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Looks good Matt . What cc? 1000 What HP? Year I'm guessing 1982/83
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Here ya go Shelpi!
A nice lightweight 2 stroke! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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sweet ;D so that would be a universal frame EML/EML 800cc twin, hmm twin shock so 1982/83 been trying to do my home work, but how did I go :P
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Water cooled 820cc air cooled 1000cc am I right Walter?
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I have always seen these motors referred to as 1000cc, A quick measure down the plug hole and across the bores through the ports says it's about 940cc and the other motor checks out much the same.
I have heard that the later air cooled engine with the kick start was closer to the 1000cc, perhaps just a bigger bore size.
Hopefully the little 940 should have enough grunt...
Walter may also be able to confirm theat there was a couple of different piston/con rod combinations used. At least one of my engines has EML brand rods in it with Mahle pistons 86.4mm.
And WTF is that clutch out of? An auto trans of some sort with the sprag in the back for starter engagement.
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Well done Matt . That should turn some heads . A 1984 Jumbo EML . That should handle better than the 85 Mono and looks much better in my opinion . Make sure you get those brakes and arms up to scratch first, before you ride it . ;)
Sorry to question the wise ones but after all the reasearch we have been doing and went back over the World championships for EML it was like this wasnt it
Emil Bollhalder / Kar Buser - Yamaha- EML - 1982-83 twin shock
Hansi Bachtold / Fritz Fub - EML/Jumbo - EML 1984-87 mono shock
82-83 are very similar to '84 frame, only a few minor differences. The very last of the '84 twins hocks came out with twin tube girder style forks
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Here ya go Shelpi!
A nice lightweight 2 stroke! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Hey Matt, hope you keep us in the loop with pics during the resto, I must say its a beautiful peice of kit, and I am very Jelous ;)
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Thanks Walter, it needs a new trenching implement on the rear, the one that is on it is shredded! not sure what I will do with the rear yet, 18" is the easy way out but not good for an original restoration. it has the steel hub (complete with broken spokes) from an earlier model so that would have to be replaced to keep it original
Cheers
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Hey Matt, hope you keep us in the loop with pics during the resto, I must say its a beautiful peice of kit, and I am very Jelous ;)
Yep will do Shelpi, won't be much progress on this one for a little while unfortunately, I'm in the middle of moving house (interstate, again) and not having anywhere to store it, so in the mean time it stays in Dads shed. Besides, I still have other unfinished projects! Here is the new donk for the other '84 EML
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If its steel , the wheel must be around78- 80 . 82> they where Alu . I still have lots of spokes for the steel hubs too .
There is also a front swing arm and brake caliper off an earlier model in the box of spares. The guy I bought it off has a beautiful '80 EML YAM with an allu rear hub...
Other than the wheel, it's all there and complete dome to every last nut, bolt and washer. And the front guard may not be original..... ;D
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Doesn't matter , you still done very well . By the way the Yam looks good too . No Kroeber ignition ?
No Kroeber yet, I can't make sence of how to adapt one to 270°.
That old advance mechanism housing is only there for decoration, the trigger mechanism for the probe ignition is on the other side. When I get a chance I will make a blanking plate instead of that housing and it's leaky seal
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Hey Matt, hope you keep us in the loop with pics during the resto, I must say its a beautiful peice of kit, and I am very Jelous ;)
Yep will do Shelpi, won't be much progress on this one for a little while unfortunately, I'm in the middle of moving house (interstate, again) and not having anywhere to store it, so in the mean time it stays in Dads shed. Besides, I still have other unfinished projects! Here is the new donk for the other '84 EML
Freighting it up to QLD next week!
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good luck on ya move and hope you get all nice and settled those bikes need a nice homely enviroment to grow up in ;D ;)
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Matt, how is the motor being shipped?? Might have to send the Kelly Gang to intercept it ;D ;D ;D
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Sending it up with my mates at armour guard ;D
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Sending it up with my mates at armour guard ;D
:( >:( ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Finishing touches...
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My first 2 attempts at pattern making and casting
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whats the 270 degree bit. is the crank different to a standard XS?
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That looks great Matt, is that going in the 84?????
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whats the 270 degree bit. is the crank different to a standard XS?
Hi Hoony, yes the crank is slightyly different to standard 360 degree XS
That looks great Matt, is that going in the 84?????
Spot on Popeye, the EML only ever had the 850 borrowed from the Wasp, now I will have 2 bikes going
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Very nice... I will ring you over the weekend about the Island trip....
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whats the 270 degree bit. is the crank different to a standard XS?
Hi Hoony, yes the crank is slightyly different to standard 360 degree XS
can you explain a bit further 270, you have me interested. is the standard XS rod main pins 180 degree apart or are they inline firing differently? and how does the 270 work?
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Great job 270Yam 8)
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can you explain a bit further 270, you have me interested. is the standard XS rod main pins 180 degree apart or are they inline firing differently? and how does the 270 work?
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Hoony, the std XS fires as a Triumph but if you press the crank cheeks off and spin it, you can get it to 270 (277 actually) and make it fire like a twin/single (twingle :D) That way they get drive on every stroke like a thumper. That's the cheep way to do it and it's not exactly right. You can however make it exact if you have the means, which Matt obviously has, and they run even smoother.
It's a bastard of a thing to race against 'cause it sounds like a dodgy old 500 thumper but it hauls soooo hard out of slow turns.
There is an XS forum that will fill you in some more, go there for a look.
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Yes as EML explains, the stock Yamaha is like triumph BSA Norton and any of the early parallel twins with both crankpins in line, both pistons rise and fall at the same time, but on opposite cycles. This results in an even 'firing order' with one cylinder firing every 360°.
The 270° rephase simply means that (in most cases) the right hand side of the crank has been advanced by 90° in front of the left. So instead of the original 360°/360°, it is now 270°/450°. The uneven firing gives the back tyre more time to recover resulting in better traction even though it sounds like 'smooth' power.
Road racers have been using this theory for a while, Yamaha's latest 'cross plain' crank design in the 4cyl R1 is just 1 example. Power is more manageable and it hangs on better in the wet.
The crank has a much better primary balance which kills the infamous XS650 vibration, so energy that used to be spent making vibration is now being sent to the back wheel. Free power!
Instead of accelerating 2 pistons/rods at full velocity and then having to stop then and turn them back the other way at the same time, there is always one piston near full velocity when the other is changing direction- top and bottom.
So we now have a parallel twin that sounds and behaves like a 90° V twin.
it sounds like a dodgy old 500 thumper
Where did you get that from EML?? it must only sound like that when you're behind it!
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Also as EML says, the 277° is an easier and more common mod than the 270°.
The Yamaha crank is basically 2x complete 2stroke cranks joined together in the middle with a 13 spline. If you turn it by 3 splines you can achieve 83.07°/276.92° Crank offset. Close enough to the 90°/270°
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Many thanks guys for explaining this. i never knew this.
i used to swing on a few outfits in early 80's (2 yamaha XS based 880's and a Norton 850)
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Hoony here is some info on a production Yamaha 850 that came with a 270 phase. One of the few bikes I would love as a road bike. They sound so good!
Version History
The TDM 850 was arguably the first road-oriented "Adventure Tour" motorcycle. It was never marketed as an off-road bike, but as a comfortable yet manoeuvrable all-rounder, rather like the later Honda NC700X, CB500X, Kawasaki Versys, KTM SMT, and Ducati Multistrada. When designing the TDM, Yamaha are said to have used a lot of ideas from their "Morpho" project.[1] The TDM's engine was derived from the Paris Dakar winning Yamaha XTZ 750 Super Tenere. Yamaha intended to create a motorcycle capable of handling the mountain roads of the European Alps and coping with rougher road surfaces; and the TDM's "sit-up-&-beg" rider's position was radical in its day.
The TDM was imported into the United States for only two years, 1992 and 1993. It was never a big seller in the United Kingdom or in The Netherlands, but in other European countries (including France, Germany and Greece) sales were strong[citation needed]. In 1996 Yamaha released the Mk2 TDM with updated bodywork and a 270° firing order instead of the previous 360°. This modified engine was first seen on the Japanese market in 1995, when Yamaha introduced the TRX850. The 270° engine gave the TDM an attractive new "feel", and it now became a popular bike in the Netherlands, where for some years it was among the top 15 best-selling bikes.
In 2001 the 3rd incarnation arrived, the TDM 900, with new bodywork, a diamond-shaped alloy frame, a 6-speed gearbox, fuel-injection, R1 derived brakes, a reduced dry weight of 190 kg, a larger-capacity 900cc engine, and slightly wider tyres (160 rear, 120 front). It has a 2-position trip meter, a digital clock, and digital fuel meter. ABS was available as an option.
The TDM is classified as New Sports, a new category invented by Yamaha, comparable with "Dual Sports" or "Adventure Sports bikes". Although a TDM is too bulky and heavy for serious off-road work, its long-travel suspension is well suited for gravel tracks and light off-road use. Popular modifications include fitting aftermarket exhausts, "blue-spot" brake calipers, and dual-sports tires.
As s side note somewhere amongst my well ordered parts I have a re-phased crank and camshaft set for a CB754 used with other electrical mods to create a four cylinder twin.. Meaning 1and 4 fire together then 2 and 3. No I have never put it together but will one day I should.
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As s side note somewhere amongst my well ordered parts I have a re-phased crank and camshaft set for a CB754 used with other electrical mods to create a four cylinder twin.. Meaning 1and 4 fire together then 2 and 3. No I have never put it together but will one day I should.
Hi Tim, the honda 4 motor sounds interesting,
The 4's are simple, just cut the cam in the middle and rotate half of it by 180° and install.
Don't even need to change the ignition as they already fire a waste spark with dual tower coils.
I had a Suzuki GS 750 like that in my '84 EML before I removed it and put it back to how it should be with a big twin.
Many manufacturers make 270° twins now, even the new triumphs and norton's have strayed from their heritage
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270 when you mastered the batteryles ignition setup , I would be interested in a 998 cc 270 project . I reckon in period 4 road racing that setup would be a contender. Is the 270 configuration also easier to start then a conventional ?
Yes it should make a great road race motor, still no easier to start though!
Working on battery-less at the moment
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Hi guys, I have an almost finished project if some can post the pics would be good?????
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Hi guys, I have an almost finished project if some can post the pics would be good?????
send em through ill post them for you
[email protected]
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Here is some pics for Lama:
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:) Sweet, good work ;) Popeye and Lama ya doing it a treat 8)
Im trying to work on mine but work and firefighting is takeing its toll :'(
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That's my outfitt getting a bit of work done on just need to rebuild the engine then all stripped off sand blast the frame paint it a nice black then put it all together engine is a kx 500water cooled 1987 ( it's all about fun )
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That's my outfitt getting a bit of work done on just need to rebuild the engine then all stripped off sand blast the frame paint it a nice black then put it all together engine is a kx 500water cooled 1987 ( it's all about fun )
You have hit the Nail on the head me old mate, fun thats what its all about ;)
all the best on the rebirth and hope we get to bang bars again soon ;) say Gday to eveyone up your way for me will ya mate :)
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Looking good Adam, see ya on the line...
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Looking good Adam, see ya on the line...
Gday Popeye, happy new year mate ;)
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Same to you mate. Here's to a good year. Don't no if I will be coming to the spectacular as I think it's on the same weekend as the post classic titles at Echo Valley. MA in there wisdom have issued permits to both happen on the same weekend, and then they will wonder why we can't field a sidecar class at the titles. There pretty switched on our MA mmmmmmm
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AND in the RED corner--
Popeye!!
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007 pffft.
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.....license to thrill...
haha ;D
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.....license to thrill...
haha ;D
;D good one, looking good there Popeye :) bloody hell there are new rigs popping up like Mushrooms everywhere, Im excited 8)
so what ya got yourself popeye?
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Way Out West and some !!(http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r259/vmx247/waspinvastion_zps9c1480f8.jpg) (http://s146.photobucket.com/user/vmx247/media/waspinvastion_zps9c1480f8.jpg.html)
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Snice one Ali and Happy new year mate ;) I say we arnt blowing to much smoke your way are we ??? sorry about that :)
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That's mine Pete. No 007 Started out as a water cooled 500 now is air cooled to comply with Pre 85 frame modified by myself and help from Greg. Motor and Pipe done by Mark Powell Still haven't fired it up but hope to in the next week or so and then testing begins, I imagine the shocks will need a freshen up as will the wheels and other bits and pieces.
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One for Paul :)
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That's mine Pete. No 007 Started out as a water cooled 500 now is air cooled to comply with Pre 85 frame modified by myself and help from Greg. Motor and Pipe done by Mark Powell Still haven't fired it up but hope to in the next week or so and then testing begins, I imagine the shocks will need a freshen up as will the wheels and other bits and pieces.
All the best Mate, ;) Im sure you will sort it out, it all ready looks like a winner 8)
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Fired up the beast the other day, so she now lives :D. Running very rich but the bike is now over getting the exhaust down then I will rejett and sort things out. Fired 2nd kick and started 3rd kick and has started 1st kick every time since so that is good, can't wait to get on it and have a thrash around the track.....
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Well Done Popeye, Im still trying to get a donk, was elated to find we have a 1982,83.84 Maico kit but now paying for it :P
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Wandering WA
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Morgan SA
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France
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SA
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Clackline WA
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Conondale Qld
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:) ;)
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Ahh Gillman and Conondale ??? dont now the rest
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Ahh Gillman and Conondale ??? dont now the rest
Not sure of the top one, but pikky 2 is a Hagon alloy framed XS motored beauty. Not much good in the day but would love to have one now. Pikky 3 is a start in France, and 5 is from WA.
The last one is Conondale, the start of the 2 lap final for the National champs in '09 I think. Wally won the drag-race up the hill and despite tapping him a couple of times we couldn't get passed him and Steve Baker.
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Ahh Gillman and Conondale ??? dont now the rest
Not sure of the top one, but pikky 2 is a Hagon alloy framed XS motored beauty. Not much good in the day but would love to have one now. Pikky 3 is a start in France, and 5 is from WA.
The last one is Conondale, the start of the 2 lap final for the National champs in '09 I think. Wally won the drag-race up the hill and despite tapping him a couple of times we couldn't get passed him and Steve Baker.
thanx mate, hows it all going up there? hey any ideas where I can get a 1983/84 Maico 490 donk or whole bike :P
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I heard they came from Germany....give that a crack.....
All the 1st Zabels were based on Maico so just go straight there mate....stop fraggin' about.
Have you tried Steve Baker in Sydney?
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You can PM him on here , he goes by the name of Odd1 , How things going down there Pete???
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Got all my engine parts the guru can rebuild it then it's fun fun fun :) :) :)
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Got all my engine parts the guru can rebuild it then it's fun fun fun :) :) :)
ya shit stiring bastard :'( No your good just jelous, Good shit mate, hope it all goes well mate ;)
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No word on mine yet Pete but hopefully a week or 2 and we should be on the track......
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Will it be redy for Coles creek Popeyes 9 th march
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Looks like Dalby will be Sunday only for racing, however Sat avo will be some training sessions for budding monkeys, I mean passengers and Sat eve looks good for a sidecar video/DVD/Memory stick show and eats at the clubhouse.
Could tick a few boxes there.
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No word on mine yet Pete but hopefully a week or 2 and we should be on the track......
might have a Maico 490 donk 1983, to soon to know for sure, hope it all goes well for ya popeye (hey by the way conondale is still putting a grin an me stupid mug, say Gday to all the good old boys for me ;D)
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Rode mine yesterday for the first time with a passenger on the side, all run in just got fix suspension and sort a few things but all good so far
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Rode mine yesterday for the first time with a passenger on the side, all run in just got fix suspension and sort a few things but all good so far
Well done Popeye ;) all the best mate, please keep us posted as its always good to see and hear how someones creation is going :)
sorry to say we are dragging the chain, but happy to say we have purchased a Motor, but it wont arrive until next month :(
And a big thanks to you all that have been watching out and helping, it kept me going ;) cheers
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as long as you're ready for Horsham, all will be forgiven Mr Shelpi.
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When are we gonna see some pics of the Super Sidecar Mr Fletch????
Are you interested in riding it up to CD10 ????
Hopefully I will be riding up on a Pre90 trail bike up to Conondale and riding the event on the same thing.....
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:-[ yep will be at Horsham but there wont be a Maico :-[ :P :-\ :-X its all over me, atm still doing shutdown, so no time to scratch my arse :o
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Afair bit of work to get the Super 750 back to scratch Pop. It's all there and tidy enough but has sat in a shed for a few years so will need a bit of TLC.
I will prob set it up for sale as there's none about like it left and then put the effort into putting the chair on my old XTZ for some fun.
Pity your arse is so itchy Shelp.....Maybe it's worms.??
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Afair bit of work to get the Super 750 back to scratch Pop. It's all there and tidy enough but has sat in a shed for a few years so will need a bit of TLC.
I will prob set it up for sale as there's none about like it left and then put the effort into putting the chair on my old XTZ for some fun.
Pity your arse is so itchy Shelp.....Maybe it's worms.??
I think my worms have fleas ??? hey whatsthe Super 750 all about ;)
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I have had an XTZ750 for some years now. That's how I go back into riding-doing some adventure rides, great fun. It's how I met Popeye actually. He was one of those mad bastards that does a 500klm adventure ride on the back wheel :D :D :D
This year I picked up another one, complete with a trials chair on it. It has an original 6820klm on it and was owned by an older dude that only rode it occasionally. Sat in his shed for years unused. So although near new it has some blemishes. and fittings for the chair. Nothing that can't be overcome.
My original old girl has sat for a wee while after she shat the elecs....common problem. Sent them to Beta in SA to get them fixed but got wrapped up in sidecars so it went on the back burner. I have USD forks and long range stuff to go on her when I get the inclination. Will most likely fit the chair to the older one and sell the low k one, maybe to a museum, it's that good.
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Got a couple of pics from the Broadford Bonanza
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That's it. We're forked...the two strokes are back.
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The now gorgeous "Rat Kawasaki W650" at the BBB ;)
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marvelous resto
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absolutety, excellent resto, hey are we gunna see ya's at Horsham? the zooks got another top end :o we may not sieze it this time :-[ maybe
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Sidecars @ 5.08
1983 MR MX Broadford
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_HyIUd_NWY&feature=share
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what was the line up D Williams, J Robinson ......? great old film, what a hoot :D
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from memory Victorian riders were
Trevor & Allan Anthony
Brian Stewart & Kim Demarte
Ian Smith & Craig Fordham
Darren Robinson & Daryl Elliot
Bernard Muller & ? (or possibly )Rob Duke
Chris Savage & ? (possibly Rob Duke)
Maybe Grant Dargue & Myself
Possibly Russell Bergmier
Maybe SA's Buckley, John Robinson & NSW Terry Gunter
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yes your right. did you ride that event too Walter ? i can't believe i missed you.
your memory is much better than mine , it's so many Beers ago.
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AHHH that's a simple fix more BEER Walter! (aids the memory loss.... ;) Cheers buggers
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Yoga aids memory loss???? :o
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Best wish's for those attending Horsham and Murray Williams events coming up on the calendar..
Pin it :P 8) :P
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xWYw2dAu1M
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Ahhh thanx for that, ;)