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Clubroom => General Discussion => Topic started by: bishboy on June 18, 2013, 01:29:53 pm
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I need to get a new helmet and there are some deals on line and on ebay at the moment, probably last years models going by the colours but they're all with aussie retailers as I'm not keen on buying a helmet from overseas.
In my searches I've found the following:
M2R: the X2.5 for $150, X2.6 for $200, X3 from $160, X3.1 for $225 and the X4 for $300
Oneal Lite: $160
Fox V3: from $350
There all in reasonable designs/colours as I don't want some fluro vomit skull wanna be wanker look.
My question is: is there a great deal of difference between these helmets, I realise the X4 and V3 might be a bit lighter. better venting etc but is it worth paying up to double some of the others? I could buy say 2 of the X2.5 and have a spare in case I lose, drop, run over one of them.
Any thoughts/opinions?
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Hi Bishboy, I just went and bought an AIROH, yes very dear but it weighs about 980 grams and has the best ventilation of any helmet I've worn, it also has a small peak area so if you do a finke race or say a lot of trail riding with speed involved the peaks not trying to rip your head off if you no what I mean.
Best helmet I've ever had just MO.....
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Hi,
lm in the market for a helmet too so lve been trying on a few of late.
The most comfortable one lve had on is a Fox V4.
lm XL and l love the way it fits, the only downside for me is its tight to get off, tried the Bell and some cheaper ones but keep coming back to the V4 which is carbon fibre.
The fit and comfort have been more important that the weight so far.
Best price so far from a dealer is $475.00
Geoff
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I'm with popeye, Airoh.....very comphy and very light....you don't even know its there.
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I just got an all-white One Industries helmet. Can't recall the model, but it was around $300.
It's actually quite heavy (1400gms), but it's comfortable enough that the weight isn't an issue.
I plan on getting a Kali 'cone head' for MX. Like the Airohs there's no AS1698 on them (which is why I bought the One Ind helmet), but they're light and promise exceptionally good safety.
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I just got an all-white One Industries helmet. Can't recall the model, but it was around $300.
It's actually quite heavy (1400gms), but it's comfortable enough that the weight isn't an issue.
I plan on getting a Kali 'cone head' for MX. Like the Airohs there's no AS1698 on them (which is why I bought the One Ind helmet), but they're light and promise exceptionally good safety.
They reckon a lighter helmet (obviously with a quality liner) is safer due to less whipping action to your head in a stack . Those Kali helmets are reasonably cheap on ebay.
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I have another version of the Scott helmet.... not to heavy, not too light... and the Price was right!
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I tried to buy an Airoh but the Aust importer no longer brings them in. Does anyone know where I can get one in Australia. Would rather support the local industry if I can.
Cheers
Shaun
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They reckon a lighter helmet (obviously with a quality liner) is safer due to less whipping action to your head in a stack . Those Kali helmets are reasonably cheap on ebay.
Yeah - not all of them have the cones though.
It's absolutely insane that the two safest helmets (Kali and the other one with the dual stage foam), and the Airoh don't have an Australian importer or AS-approval.
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I bought my Airoh out of the UK (before they where bought in) from I think its called "Dirt bike express" or something like that....5 days was all it took.....they specialise in internet sales.....I have heeps of mates who have bought them and everyone is happy with them.
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Yeah I got my Airoh from Germany very happy.
Cheers
Nick
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Why not buy one from your local dealer, while he is still there?
You get the benifit of trying it on and making sure it fits right
The new Bells are good both in quality and value,
With Helmets lightest isn't always the best,
Remember primary function of a helmet is to decelerate your brain
And that is done by the 5 cent polystyrene liner
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Just purchased a new Fox V4 from my local dealer. Very comfortable and light helmet. It won't fit all heads as my mate said, his nose touchs the front so he can't wear one.
After my stack at Lake Glenbawn where the front wheel parted company with the upper fork tubes, the One Industies helmet was thrown in the bin. It had done its job, had it for a couple of years and it was nearly time to buy a new one. Split the helmet from the impact.
As somebody mentioned why not buy the helmet fom your local dealer, support them because one day they won't be there if you keep on buying everything from the Internet. If it is cheaper and it normally is on the net ask the dealer if he can assist you with the price. You never know if you never ask.
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Got my AIROH from shop in Moss Street Brisbane KTM, but has since sold out to Springwood Suzuki, don't no who would sell them now.
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I would love to support my local dealer and do wherever I can. But when he doesn't carry the product I'm looking for (in this case Airoh) and the product he does sell is around the same price but for a much inferior product then it is increasingly becoming more difficult to shop off-line.
Cheers
Shaun
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Hey Bishboy, we met when you dropped into the Heaven meet on the weekend. I just bought a Bell MX2. I went to the big MCAS store on Parramatta Rd and tried them all on. This helmet was by far the most comfortable for my boof head and is very light. It is made of a fibreglass construction which I like because I think it will absorb more impact, not too keen on the poly carbonate made ones as I have seen them split more than once. There seems to be some good deals around on the 2012 models.
Cheers,
Ken
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They reckon a lighter helmet (obviously with a quality liner) is safer due to less whipping action to your head in a stack . Those Kali helmets are reasonably cheap on ebay.
Yeah - not all of them have the cones though.
It's absolutely insane that the two safest helmets (Kali and the other one with the dual stage foam), and the Airoh don't have an Australian importer or AS-approval.
I had a bigger reply as to why Nat but suffice to say Globalisation has a higher cost even if the goods are cheaper...
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Now you've given me even more options, but I'm not sure about buying a helmet that I haven't tried on. The M2R's are kevlar/carbon/fibreglass blend and would have to be pretty light and I think they're an aussie company?
I'm having a hard time trying to find accurate weights to compare the different helmets. I'll try a few local dealers and try some different ones on and see how they go matching the on line prices.
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They reckon a lighter helmet (obviously with a quality liner) is safer due to less whipping action to your head in a stack . Those Kali helmets are reasonably cheap on ebay.
Yeah - not all of them have the cones though.
It's absolutely insane that the two safest helmets (Kali and the other one with the dual stage foam), and the Airoh don't have an Australian importer or AS-approval.
I had a bigger reply as to why Nat but suffice to say Globalisation has a higher cost even if the goods are cheaper...
Hey Marty I spoke to the Airoh importer and he said that his decision to no longer bring the MX helmets in was because of his risk of being sued due to a competitor being injured while using one on a transport stage of an enduro ??? Airoh are not willing to have their helmets approved to AS1698. For what it's worth he is still importing the trials helmets.
Could be an opportunity for an enterprising young dealer what do you reckon???
Cheers
Shaun
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Now you've given me even more options, but I'm not sure about buying a helmet that I haven't tried on. The M2R's are kevlar/carbon/fibreglass blend and would have to be pretty light and I think they're an aussie company?
I'm having a hard time trying to find accurate weights to compare the different helmets. I'll try a few local dealers and try some different ones on and see how they go matching the on line prices.
Not all M2Rs are tricomposite, their cheap ones are thermoplastic & not very good from what I've been told.
I ended up with an Airoh Stelt last year which came from a dealer who had to relocate from the red zone in Christchurch & didn't want to find the room in the new shop so they sold the ones they didn't want to move off cheap, very light, comfortable helmet- possibly lighter than the Airoh helmet I use for trials
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Now you've given me even more options, but I'm not sure about buying a helmet that I haven't tried on. The M2R's are kevlar/carbon/fibreglass blend and would have to be pretty light and I think they're an aussie company?
I'm having a hard time trying to find accurate weights to compare the different helmets. I'll try a few local dealers and try some different ones on and see how they go matching the on line prices.
Not all M2Rs are tricomposite, their cheap ones are thermoplastic & not very good from what I've been told.
I ended up with an Airoh Stelt last year which came from a dealer who had to relocate from the red zone in Christchurch & didn't want to find the room in the new shop so they sold the ones they didn't want to move off cheap, very light, comfortable helmet- possibly lighter than the Airoh helmet I use for trials
Your money Shaun, and my skill ...WINNER!!
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Finally getting around to doing something.
Is the Airoh sizing the same as other helmets, if I'm a medium in Fox or Bell would I also be a medium on the Airoh.
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As someone who has smashed a lot of helmets I will only ever get an arai or shoei I no they are at the top end of the market but then again so is my head
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Now you've given me even more options, but I'm not sure about buying a helmet that I haven't tried on. The M2R's are kevlar/carbon/fibreglass blend and would have to be pretty light and I think they're an aussie company?
I'm having a hard time trying to find accurate weights to compare the different helmets. I'll try a few local dealers and try some different ones on and see how they go matching the on line prices.
Don't buy your lid online, just to save a couple of bucks. FFS go to a shop and try a helmet on and make sure it fits properly.
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Thanks Ted. I was just thinking the same thing.
I wanted a new helmet for a road trip to the Stratford Vinduro (be there or be square....... ;D ) and picked out what I thought I wanted online.
When I got to the shop today, that particular helmet didn't fit my oddball head well at all.
In the end, I spent more than I planned, but got a top line helmet (Shoei) that is seriously comfortable, the vents actually work and it's quieter without earplugs than my old one was with earplugs, all for 40 buck LESS than the cheapest one of that model on eBay. ;D
If I'd bought online, I would have been well out of pocket today.
Not always the case, but there's no going back if you get it wrong. 8)
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Mate u won't be disappointed with your shoei
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I need to get a new helmet and there are some deals on line and on ebay at the moment, probably last years models going by the colours but they're all with aussie retailers as I'm not keen on buying a helmet from overseas.
I bought a new one, two actually a little while back, paid more to buy locally than over the "net" for good reason. Why do you want one? If you really need one, you really need it to fit too, fit properly that is and really you need to try multple ones on whilst wearing your preferred gogges and glasses too if you wear them, i found it a major episode....my favourite dirt one now pushes the goggles down your face further, squashing your airways and lack of performance due to NO AIR! My next fave now has a peak that points relatively too high, great for mx but not so good in the bush when sun is low in sky etc etc, so after trying on i reckon 30 plus helmets i gave up and went back to the big two Arai and Shoei, dont know why i wentaway, well i do, the others are all cheaper. Try them on in your locals shops, buy last years models, i did and saved 200 per helmet, they both fit too!
cheers,
Kt
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Suttos MC had a great deal on helmets a couple of months ago. Fox, One Industries, Thor, Fly and heaps of others...$100 ea. Bought the nephew a $550 Thor helmet for $100. Give him a call
Support the people that support us.
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last north bris flat track
i was asst scrurtineer
picked up a helmet that weighed next to nothing
the dad said $600
is this the airoh you speak of
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I was cleaning the shed the other day and come across all of my old helmets in different places, it got me thinking, does everyone still have all theirs.
The old saying goes "NEVER THROW ANYTHING OUT."
(http://p1.bikepics.com/2012/01/13/bikepics-2330516-800.jpg)
From the left, ARAI MIROTAKE SHOTEN 1975,same colour as my Kwaka KE175, next, NOVA VIP,1981, next, HJC,1998, next, M2R,2007, with removable lining , a great invention.
Cheers Chippy.
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Be very careful what you buy online. If the helmet has not been approved to AS/NZS1698 don't buy it. Look for the 5 tick label or the benchmark label of certification. Not all helmets have the same certification labelling. This all depends on who is there certifying body eg: SAI Global.
These cheap helmets do not offer the appropriate level of protection in a crash. Another point to note is that a helmet designed for the US and European market is not the same as what is sold on shelves in Australia. The US and Europe test to DOT standard. The AS/NZS1698:2009 Standard is one of the strictest standards in the world and because of this the helmets sold here are a better quality.
There are many dodgy manufacturers out there and because can it cost $15k+ to get a licence to sell helmets in Australia, places like Ebay and markets are often easy ways to shift dodgy gear.
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I got a Suomy 'Mr Jump' helmet, only weighs 1000 gm's, normal retail is $450, I got it through a normal accessory retailer in the US via ebay, cost me $350 landed.
I think the weight of a helmet is so important, less inertia when it hits something, less stress on the neck in an accident and less tiring to wear.
Riding on the road you need AS approval but for racing most other countries approvals are accepted.
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The weight of the helmet is extremely important. A light helmet suggests that they are using a low density liner. As for less stress on the neck, what would you rather prefer a sore neck or brain damage.
The biggest issue with neck problems is helmet rotational forces. That's why external projections greater than 5 mm are tested. The energy attenuating properties of a helmet is by far the most important aspect of any helmet and just part of the process of testing.
If you're after more info follow the link. Most of the helmets tested were Road bike helmets but it might give you an idea on what to look for when purchasing a new helmet.
http://roadsafety.transport.nsw.gov.au/downloads/safer_motorcycle_helmets_dl1.html
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last north bris flat track
i was asst scrurtineer
picked up a helmet that weighed next to nothing
the dad said $600
is this the airoh you speak of
Likely to be so, my stelt has a lower stated weight than my trials helmet. The tri-composite helmets weight less than the cheap plastic helmets