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Marketplace => For Sale => Topic started by: Freakshow on May 05, 2008, 06:41:47 pm
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Islo Dunstan 250cc suit restoration or riding for sale or trade , kinda Bill grapevine stye scrambler. Rare things if your into being rare
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got a piccy
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Where is it for fork sake Freaky? If you are going to post stuff like this at least have the commonsense to post the ad number or cut and paste the original ad. What you have posted is so useless and barely readible. ??? ???
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WHAT THE HELL IS A ISLO DUNSTAN ???, AS AN OWNER OF 7 ISLO (COOPER) BIKES, I HAVE NEVER SEEN AN ISLO DUNSTAN OR DATSAN OR DO YOU MEAN HONDA AS ISLO USE TO MAKE HONDA BIKES UNDER CONTRACT.
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Its here firko for fork sake. Seemed a fairly simple logical post i thought. i figured if you want it youd know what it was.
Beats the shit out of me its an oldgirl with fitted side panels, Islo motor and branded tank im reading off the side of it. ill post a pic when i get home. ::)
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GRM i thought made Trials bikes and used ISLO engines
http://www-personal.umd.umich.edu/~mschelos/grm.html
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I know what a GRM is. My mate Alan has two. I have no idea what a Dunstan is and what you are referring to. Learn to post properly Freaky.
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Sorry i usually post from work and im limited on time and franky cant be bothered re checking every grammer and spelling, I figure you got plenty of time and if you can be bothered you can figure it out, if not dont read the post or get Graeme to put a spell checker button ;)
So Sorry let me replace my mispelled N with 2 LL's ;D
Dunstall was the guru for cafe racers back in the day and those into nortons would have picked up on it. im not sure if this was a conversion frame and why he would have used a mexican motor but i do know. its like an early scambler or mx style thing maybe it ran another motor and this was a swap out for a cheap alternative, unfortunalty it has no history but it has a 70's plastic tank with the emblem on it that look like it fits right. the frame has a serial number however that may prove to be from somthing else. So who knows im only going on what i see before me and the little i know. im realying on all you gurus out there to come up with the peices as its not in my area of expertise.
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Wack up a picture when you get time Freaky. We can all see what you have on offer then. ;)
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Those forks look like mexican Cerraini copies to me also. Fuc knows maybe its a special order for someone who couldnt afford the real thing maybe it was a clone of somthing else.
Maybe its a piece of crap and the stickers came off his dads norton commando.
IHNFI or it could be rare as shit and worth $20,000 MAico dollars ;D
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Never, ever heard of Paul Dunstall dicking around with two-strokes at all, and certainly not trail bikes. I think you might be a victim of a random sticker application there, Freaky. But whack it up on ebay and try your luck. FWIW, Paul Dunstall made a swag of gear for Featherbed and Isolastic Norton twins, and his last effort was an 810 kit for the Mk 3 Commando, by which time he realised the futility of competing against the influx of Japanese rocketships, and gave the game away.
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Looks like a Cooper Freaky. Different exhaustt than what Ive seen on them
I havnt heard of Dunstall doing dirt bikes but what the hell would I know
http://www.maicomotorcycles.com/images/74cooper.jpg.jpg
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stop dicking about i will give you 50 bucks ;D
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Now that's better. Isn't easy when you try just that little bit harder? I do doubt it if the Norton boys would have picked up a "Dunstan" with a Moto Islo engine as being something they'd be familiar with. Thats stretching a really long bow. Paul Dunstall has nothing to do with this bike or anything to do with 2 strokes at all, let alone one made in Mexico. You really need to do some history research before you post this shit matey.
Now down to it. The bike's a Cooper by all indications. Looks to be in below average nick. I'll give you $400 for it.
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IT'S A COOPER ENDURO BIKE WITH THE OPTIONAL REAR SWING/SHOCK MOD BLAIR HARLY DID ON THE COOPERS HE SOLD, BIT OF SHITTER, FITTED WITH A SHITTY PIPE FREAKY, THE ENGINE NUMBER SHOULD MATCH THE FRAME NUMBER, ENGINE NUMBER SHOULD HAVE A HORSES HEAD EITHER SIDE OF IT, FRAME NUMBER SHOULD START WITH SA-MO OR UX xxxxx, THE TANK IS FIBREGLASS, WORTH MAYBE $250, HALF THE PARTS ARE MISSING, IT SHOULD LOOK LIKE THE PHOTO OF MY BIKE ON THIS POST.
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the avatar is too small betric to see , can you post it ? i bow to the greater knowledge and agree with all, and like i said whatever it is or could be, its for sale or swap as it is.
im only going on the decal but did suggest it might be a sticker as i knew he last ventured into Honda and suzuki kits into the 80s till he realised that era was dead, but who knows.
the frame has stamps TXW 936970 on it does that help any ?
i agree with pokey it does look like that 74 cooper.
any way down to it, resonable offer or swap takes it. :-X
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You have a good offer on the table Freaky. Go back a page you may of missed it. BETRIC said its worth $250 in its currect state, I reckon he would know its value
Firko would also know what its worth yet has offered you $400 cold hard cash..
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I've had a rethink on it and if Betric puts $250 on the Cooper that'd be its value. He's the countrys foremost Moto Islo scholar and knows his shit. I'm changing my offer to $300 based on his knowledge.
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ill have another look at the forks, if they are ceranni style or copies they are worth that to me for another flat track project.
ill keep the front end, and then just wreck the rest and the motor. ebay here i come.
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FREAKY DID YOU GET MY PM ON YOUR HOTMAIL, YOU CAN POST PHOTO'S IF YOU WANT TO, THE FORKS ARE MEXICAN MADE BETOR FORKS.
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gOT YOUR PICS MATE THANKS. I GOT BETORS AT HOME AND THEY DONT LOOK LIKE THAT THEN AGAIN THEY ARE CLEAN SKINS AND NO GUARD FITTING POINT ON THE LEGE LIKE THESE ONES HAVE. ILL TAKE YOUR WORD ON IT.
YOU WANT THE MOTOR ?
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how much do you want for the rest of it minus forks
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would it be usable as a pre75 racer
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HAd another look at the bike its more like your MX version, not the trails you posted, has the same side panels as your MX, Bike no places for speedo etc on tripples anywhere, exhaust looks like a home made fix, even off another shitter. seems otherwise like Piccy, so it may well be one of the 40 MX version that came in. anyhow $700 complete as is or it will go on ebay through the shop till it gets it or close to it.
Ta for the follow up offline betric that was interesting info. cheers.
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FREAKY GOOD LUCK WITH TRYING TO GET $700 FOR THE COOPER, I DON'T THINK YOU WILL GET BID ON IT, PARTS FOR COOPERS ARE AS RARE AS ROCKING HORSE SHIT, ITS A PARTS BIKE ONLY.
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Thats ok. based on that its for sale as a whole. it will go online in the shops name so hey it will sell or it will stay there till it does. like you said it has to be worth $700 just for the parts, like if thats the case where are you going to get em ?
If somthing changes ill post in here, if not it be online, you would be surprised who else out there has the other parts of the puzzle. I paid more for a tM in bits and that wasnt even complete or running, but at the time i had a need for it.
At the end of the day if 150 came in the country and you have 10 then the rest are out there somwhere, there may just be another collector who has the other bits needed you would be amazed whats out there not on our radar, to think otherwise is fool hardy to say the least.
but thanks for the good wishes :O)
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FREAKY BEEN LOOKING AT THE COOPER PHOTO AND I NOTICED THERE IS NO BRACKET FOR THE INGITION SWITCH, IS THERE AN INNER STEEL GUARD AS THE ENDURO MODEL USE ONE AND EARLY MX MODELS ALSO USED THEM, BUT WITHOUT THE BRACKETS FOR THE ENDURO'S ROUND AIR BOX, LATE MODEL (BLAIR'S) MX BIKES USED A YELLOW FIBREGLASS AIRBOX THAT FORMED PART OF THE INNER GUARD, ANOTHER WAY TO ID IF IT IS AN MX COOPER IS, IT SHOULD ONLY HAVE ONE WIRE COMING FROM THE INGITION (3WIRES ENDURO MODEL) AND THE BANJO BOLT ON THE CARB BOWEL THE HOLDS THE MAIN JET SHOULD HAVE 220 STAMPED ON THE HEAD OF THE BOLT (MX) OR 210 FOR ENDURO MODEL ( THE MAIN JET SIZE), THERE SHOULD BE NO EXTRA BRACKETS ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE FRAME BEHIND THE NUMBER PLATE IF IT IS AN MX BIKE, ENDURO BIKES HAD THEM FOR THE UP PIPE, DO THE ENGINE NUMBER (ON TOP OF CRANK CASE UNDER CARB, HORSES HEADS STAMPED EITHER SIDE OF ENGINE NUMBER) AND FRAME NUMBER MATCH?
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I've got to agree with Betric. For $700 I'd want a more complete and cleaner bike than that. To my way of looking at it the bike deserves to remain intact because there aren't that many left. As much as I like Coopers or anything else quirky or unusual, they really aren't that desirable to the general vintage public. Besides Betric and maybe one or two other owners, Coopers don't really have much of a following. To ask $700 is limiting an already narrow target market. I'd like to see it go to someone who's prepared to go the hard yards and restore the bike but at $700 that person hasn't crawled out from under his rock yet.
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yes, it has the elephants or horse head stamps, no ignition switch, air box is fibre glass under seat / panels, note it also has braced swing arm mod, id say its mx and someone tried to race it.
note to self: funny you say that firko but i have had about 12 folks asking about it including forum folk, so i give you the hot tip there is more than dave and 2 others who like these bikes, im a little offended with your comment regarding "rocks" as rightly those folks would be too. >:(
Personally, ID like to see some one tidy it up and race it about pre 75, why go to all the effort to restore it if you put such a low value on it ? if you dont reckon its worth $700 then a restored one couldnt fetch $2k based on basic percentages, and you would only have 3 buyers based on your maths after all that trouble.
FWIW- i think it Needs a tidy up and a dam good hiding / flogging i say ,then decide in a few years what its fate should be or cut it loose. ???
ANy how its down the shop and it will sell, im very confident of that, just sounds like you havent met the buyer yet. Trust me hes' out there just not walking in your circles, so can we cut back on the opinions on price, after all its only an opinion on what you would pay, you have indicated your price and it wont besold for that, so leave it at that and let the market decide its true worth. After all its just a simple for sale advert incase someone here wanted it first and had a yearning for one :-*
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hi Freaky
ill take it pm sent
TT5 Matt
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FREAKY DO THE ENGINE & FRAME NUMBERS MATCH?, IS THE AIR BOX YELLOW AND FORMS PART OF THE INNER GUARD?, HAVE YOU HAD IT RUNNING YET? WHERE THE MARKINGS ON THE CARB AS I SAID?
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motor is free ( as in not stuck) but wouldnt try to start it without pulling it apart first. yes the airbox is part of the guard form what i can see.
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hi Freaky
ill take it pm sent
TT5 Matt
please reread post so you undersatnd what it is and so i dont get acussed, god forbit, of trying to rip you off. then send me some money and ill get it back here if the shop guys havent already sold it. i can store it out for 2 months or so.
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FREAKY
PM ME SOME BANK DETAILS OR ADDRESS AND HOW YOU WANT THE PAYMENT
TT5 Matt