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Marque Remarks => Yamaha => Topic started by: E74 on May 03, 2008, 12:25:05 pm
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I am building a YZ465H fitted with all XYZ componentry with some other rare aftermarket and trick bits I have collected over the years.... here is where I am at.., I will keep the pics coming as It progresses.
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Have you ordered your xyz stuff yet?
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Will watch with interest E74. She looks sweet already.
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Have you ordered your xyz stuff yet?
I have some but I am still to place an order for one Fox Shock, one Ohlins shock, one lower billet tripple clamp, 2 x forged footpegs, pro-form pipes and mufflers,boost botle and manifold,seat foam and cover etc.etc... if you want to combine some shipping just let me know ,I will be happy to ship it with mine,...
Darren
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Just be wary with some of their stuff...my experience is pipe needed bending to fit,sidecovers needed spacing and cutting to fit around pipe,footpegs needed drilling and new springs and pins from a later model.... order petrol tank as a full kit or you will just end up with a tank and no boost bottle bracket,tank mounts,tank bolt .petrol cap and fuel tap
i will pm my mobile...give me a call and i will fill you in on the good and bad contacts
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I ordered all my plastics through them ... very high quality, I asked Scott to throw in some tank mounts which he did and the decals have been good too. I got an exhaust from retro rocket and it was way off, needed plenty cutting and fiddling, but I agree the xyz plastics are pretty close to the pipe but the package is really good quality. If I did another bike I would not hesitate to buy them again.
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Appreciated Guys, my plastics and tank for the bike are all Genuine or NOS, I have learned that there is nothing like the genuine article when it comes to plastics, I do beleive however that their other stuff is very good.
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Tony i disagree....I think their plastics are ordinary
The seam joint on the tank is poor and if you want to bolt thru the centre of the sidecover ( flat ) surfaces provided you have to either drill 8mm holes ( to fit a 6mm bolt ) or elongate them.
Look at the quality of their plastic castings ( dimples ) and compare it with a modern bike
Sure they are old bikes but these plastics are being re-produced today not back in the dark ages
I would definitely look elsewhere
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You've buggered us up there Ted ::). We poo poo'd everything else and ended up on XYZ. We thought we had looked elsewhere. XYZ seem to be the best of a bad bunch.
Hurry up multimount ;D ;D
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Sorry yz250h i didn`t mean to rain an anybodys parade but you have to tell it like you experience it
Maybe they are the best available...if so it is a pretty poor standard
But they are only race bikes so who gives a toss out on the track
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They still have to look good doing it mate ;D ;D ;D
Us Yamaha blokes have been around the mulberry bush about 3 times and came up with XYZ. So I guess it is a pretty poor standard if XYZ are the best :o. Other marques seem to do Ok, but nobody caters for Yamaha (yet) ::).
I have heard a rumour that the concourse parts bloke is going to make some in Australia. Details are sketchy though. I've said it before, but you wouldn't think it would be that hard to make a good copy of something in this day and age.
It would be really good if he could give us an idea how far away some of his products are. I would probably hold off on buying crap if I knew the good stuff was on the way. Nobody does the right hand side cover very well.
The wait continues :-\
Edit - sorry E74 - hijacking your thread. We probably should take it over to your thread Ted
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YZ repro plastics even for riders should be exactly the same as originals, all the other bike manufacturers seem to get good reproduction plastics so why cant we. It doesnt matter if its for a rider or a queen the plastics should be what these 'reproduction plastic producers' say they are... reproductions, not the crap we get served up. If they advertised there plastics as "injected molded orange peel ill fitting universal covers" then yes I would understand, but then how many would they sell.
But on a much brighter note, it now looks like one of your own countrymen is taking the bull by the horns and making top quality plastics. Not only is he dedicated, he believes in the product he producers and feels that whether the bike is for racing or a queen the plastics should be exact copies and readily available so if they get scratched, damaged or you just want 2 sets you dont have to take out a second morgtage on the house. Thank you Scott, looking forward to a new set of G/H plastics from you.
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Me too !
You still bitter about those Maiers DJ ??
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Has anyone tried the plastics from vintage iron? The yellow yz plastics of theirs is excellent, not sure who makes it but it's top shelf.
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Don't get me started Tony, in fact I think I will have a sacrificial burning of the maiers, after all they are still virgins, and I wouldnt even give them away for fear of a contract getting placed on my head.
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Your joking arent you EVO550 ?? or your just taking the piss and winding me up ehh ??
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very nice work e74, what made you go down the path of modifying it with all the xyz goodies? i'm only asking this because your 250 in vmx mag was very original looking. i used dc plastics sidecovers on my 465g but like ted was complaining about with the xyz ones, i still had to elongate mounting holes, cut new holes for the seat bolt access and install the rubber spacers into them from the original yammy ones. are there better ones out there?
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No Dj, The yz stuff I got was spot on, I have both new NOS yellow rear guard and a Repo and fitted to the bike almost impossible to tell apart.
Maybe they have a few different suppliers....I also have purchased some DC plastics for another bike and they were junk, very hard with a ripple through the plastic and a sort of sheene that prevented anything sticking.
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very nice work e74, what made you go down the path of modifying it with all the xyz goodies? i'm only asking this because your 250 in vmx mag was very original looking. i used dc plastics sidecovers on my 465g but like ted was complaining about with the xyz ones, i still had to elongate mounting holes, cut new holes for the seat bolt access and install the rubber spacers into them from the original yammy ones. are there better ones out there?
NOS is the only way to go for the side plates, the repro guards are fine but I am using NOS and NOS preston petty's on my bikes, I have not found any repro side plates that I don't concider Junk.
My YZ250F is not restored, it is how it left the factory, all that has been replaced is the spokes, cables and the tyres.
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I need a rear hub rather desperately if anyone has one?
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Is IT490J the same ? I've got one - has been polished and is a bit daggy - probably not what you are after. There were a few on ebay the other day. I think NW vintage cycles had a YZ250G - that any good - can't find it now.
Come in Cyclegod ;D If he can't find one there isn't one for sale (on Ebay anyway).
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My YZ250F is not restored, it is how it left the factory, all that has been replaced is the spokes, cables and the tyres
ahh, that explains why it looks so fantastic. well you're a stronger man than I E74, it definitely would be showing some signs of wear and tear if it was in my shed, the temptation to take it for a spin every now and again would get the better of me. ;D
and the 465, is it going to be a ride bike?
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I think I've got a spare rear hub.
What diameter axle?
Bolts and nuts to hold the sprocket on, or studs and nuts?
Big brake, yes?
I just won a new 250G hub on Epay, so my old one will also be available soon - but its a small brake one, and I'm pretty sure the 465s have the big brake.
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I think I've got a spare rear hub.
What diameter axle?
Bolts and nuts to hold the sprocket on, or studs and nuts?
Big brake, yes?
I just won a new 250G hub on Epay, so my old one will also be available soon - but its a small brake one, and I'm pretty sure the 465s have the big brake.
Yup, It has the big brake and the big (20mm) axle, I may be able to have it welded up and machined but it is probably easier to get a new hub, I'd say its the same as IT490's up to L model as well,..
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Some Progress....
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e 74 is this one a keeper ;)
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e 74 is this one a keeper ;)
Yep, this one is rider and a keeper ;D
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looking good so far ,got any other projects on the go
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Yup, got a 84 CR500 and a 1980 CR125/Mugen happening, the little mugen project will be a stunner, I have a lot of really trick era stuff for it along with some very sweet new stuff, should be a treat when finnished, then I have two 79 YZ400F's to do, one Reference resto and one full Period DG/ Fox fitted.
I also just won those works forks http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=012&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AIT&viewitem=&item=220228709403&rd=1 from terry Good for my YZ250G so they are going to get fitted to that along with a new Ohlins shock and a Aluminium Factory tank that I have. Hmmmm, Fun Times Ahead!
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looks great, it'll be a top bike to ride.
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Hey Darren
How's it goin', you should put up a pic of your Hemi, that would impress the guys here...
The XR-75 is still warm and toasty in my lounge room.
Kind regards
Kev
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Any update on the YZ Darren ::)
Did you find a hub yet? Still got the IT 490 hub - you want me to take a photo ?
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Any update on the YZ Darren ::)
Did you find a hub yet? Still got the IT 490 hub - you want me to take a photo ?
Hi, Thanks for the interest, the YZ has come along about as far as it can until I get my stuff from XYZ,and my wheels back from being built (Yes I did find a hub, thanks!)
here is where it is at.....(http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n208/hemiy09/010-1.jpg)
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Looks sweet mate 8) - when did you order the XYZ stuff ?
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I ordered the stuff last week, however I am still looking for a inlet manifold for the boost bottle set up if anyone has a contact for these??
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Is the carb the same size as 250H ( I haven't got into researching the 465 yet - it's the last on my list). If it is try Rob from 3R's. He advertises in VMX. He told me some time ago he did the manifold with the boost bottle inlet - I am about to buy one off him too. If the carb's a different diameter you could be stuffed :-\
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E74 I read with interest that you were going to order a fox and ohlins monoshock, where would you get your ohlins from and how much would it cost. I might be interested too. I got quoted from someone in the usa,,but it was very expensive
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I believe for an Ohlins for the YZ250G/H which is the same (except heavier spring) as the YZ465 is about $nz1600-1800 brand new.
Maybe Walter can help??
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Why would you bother with after market plastics xyz are crap,,,,you can still get N.O.S tanks and side covers for the 250/465 out of the states, do some research i found them with in a week,and dont tell me they dont because they do,but you got to like yellow as thats the only colour they have,but hey theyre N.O.S. rubber neck.
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I bought a Fox shock for the semi-works 250G from XYZ for US$750 and a works shock for the 465 from a very reputable collector, that'll do me!, XYZ did have some Ohlins made at one stage but ran out and don't intend having anymore made :-\
All my plastics are NOS or NOS works parts neckless...
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Have you raced the 250 with the fox shock yet? I was wondering how it handles compared to the std pogo stick
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http://www.yamahaspares.uk.com/
Reed rubbers for 465/490 (boost bottle) available here or try 4robs
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Well its only been a year, oh well here is the latest and she still has some more trickery to be fitted, should be done by the end of next week with just a little luck.
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Nice triple clamps mate, did you get them made or are they from the US? Is that a trick shock or the original shock body hard anodized?
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Nice triple clamps mate, did you get them made or are they from the US? Is that a trick shock or the original shock body hard anodized?
Its a "Works" shock that had a visit to sweden ;)
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What happened to the boost bottle manifold Darren - Any luck. I am looking for one too - could be a show stopper on the resto :o :o
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where did ya get foot pegs ::)
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where did ya get foot pegs ::)
http://backinthedaymx.com/
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Looks like a Xmas tree....just needs a bit of tinsel to finish it off....haha
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Nice triple clamps mate, did you get them made or are they from the US?
The tripple clamps are XYZ , good luck getting a set , it may take 400 phone calls and two years to get them...
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What happened to the boost bottle manifold Darren - Any luck. I am looking for one too - could be a show stopper on the resto :o :o
I am using two that have a valve that peirces through a normal manifold on the 465 and the 250, the other one for my 400 is a white brothers one with its own manifold spacer (Thanks Ted ;))
I have an original one here if you want one?
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If it is not cracked like the two I have here consider it sold - whatever you want for it. It's the missing piece (apart from side covers from XYZ - I know exactly what you mean.) Such a shame (yet another) excellent business is let down by average service.
My last resort was to try to cast one of my own. You are a legend Darren - once again you will help save this old girl (now nearly finished and will appear at CD6)
PM sent
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Hey Tony i`m in Townsville now working for 6 weeks ( thats why i`m not down in Vic annoying our redheaded mate over easter ) .....Line up some barra fishing and i`ll be there
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PM sent Ted ;) Not sure they are getting through at the moment though. I don't think E74 is one of those thread Nazis, but just in case ::).
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HAH!, sorry tony, PM me your address and you will have it before you know it!, and your gunna owe me a few beers at CD6 so bring some corona wif ya... ;)
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Coronas aplenty Darren 8). Are you taking bikes or just yourself ?
PM sent mate
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Coronas and JD`s..........you sure ya gunna turn up Tony
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Yeah, you blokes have expensive taste :P :P, but I'm pretty sure I've got it covered. I'll just buy Fosters and Lion Nathan before CD6 and sales from that event alone will boost profit enough to cover me ;)
Seriously it's the least I can do as you blokes have been very kind to me (along with others)
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Tony, Manifold has been sent, I only take Lime with my Corona, Australia is the only place in the whole world that will serve lemon in a Corona and in my opinion its just not on!
I have a small Lime orchard to keep my supply up ;) however I will need you to bring some as I wont get mine over the border.. :-\
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No worries Darren - I will bring the limes. I'd hate to see you go through one of those border security type searches on the way up here :o :o ;D
I don't mind them with lemon, but I was also considering making one of those roller starters for the 465 so maybe I am soft ::) (or old beyond my years).
Thanks for sending the manifold by the way. I don't know how I got sidetracked on lemons Vs Limes.
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Bike looks great D! Hope to see it on the flesh one day - what a job you've done on her...
Good work mate.
Jd
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I just spent 3 days on this thing and I am absolutely stuffed!!!, but its finnished........ ;D
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That's just gorgeous. You're good at this stuff Darren! I think I see lotsa nice XYZ and BITD bling there too...
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Vey nice except for the ceramic coating on the pipe. IMO plain old satin black would suit the bike better.
Cheers,
K
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One word, SHITHOT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Would ya take $1500 for it ;) ;)
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Tell him hes dreaming E74 ;D but give him credit for asking 8) but the bike looks the goods for sure, nice job give yourself a pat on the back ;)
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Looks awesome Darren, well done mate. Is she going to make the trip to CD6?. Maybe if I park mine next to it some of the bling will rub off ;D ;D Or .... maybe if I get you drunk enough ::) :D
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looks the business
you gonna ride it at CD6?
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NUP. >:(
Looks like I'm not taking any bikes to CD6, Looks like I'm flying up Friday arv and flying home Sat night :-\
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looks good
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nice job well done ;)
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Looks great thanks Michael. :)