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Marque Remarks => Suzuki => Topic started by: Marc.com on January 12, 2013, 10:29:45 am

Title: TM185 Sidepipe
Post by: Marc.com on January 12, 2013, 10:29:45 am
There you go bikes don't have to be all billet and over inflated bling ..... my original TS185 was recycled into long travel TM sidepipe 30 years ago, and here she is revived and still with the power and handling ;)

Built tough for Taranaki Endurocross  ;D


(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg71/marcFX_photo/2-1_zps93f2149f.jpg)

(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg71/marcFX_photo/3_zps8cceb330.jpg)
Title: Re: TM185 Sidepipe
Post by: TM BILL on January 12, 2013, 10:48:22 am
Looking good big fella  :)
Title: Re: TM185 Sidepipe
Post by: suzuki59 on January 12, 2013, 11:11:02 am
Nice work Marc.
Title: Re: TM185 Sidepipe
Post by: Lozza on January 12, 2013, 11:29:26 am
TS185 and power and handling should never be used in the same sentence.
Title: Re: TM185 Sidepipe
Post by: cyclegod on January 12, 2013, 11:53:08 am
Nice to see another given the treatment but I still prefer mine  ;D

(http://p1.bikepics.com/2010/06/01/bikepics-1987786-full.jpg)
Title: Re: TM185 Sidepipe
Post by: Marc.com on January 12, 2013, 04:08:02 pm
Nice to see another given the treatment but I still prefer mine  ;D


Ah but this has patina .... same paint as it left the factory with, plus I have too many garage queens as it is so this is my rider along with my CR250RB which is ready to party also. ;)
Title: Re: TM185 Sidepipe
Post by: firko on January 12, 2013, 05:13:43 pm
At ther risk of repeating myself, that's a sweet little bike CG. I might be wrong but I think Jens Olsen may have won an Aussie or State title on that same combo back in the early 70's. He still races something similar, often instead of his RH250 which must say something.
Title: Re: TM185 Sidepipe
Post by: Marc.com on January 13, 2013, 06:08:48 am
At ther risk of repeating myself, that's a sweet little bike CG. I might be wrong but I think Jens Olsen may have won an Aussie or State title on that same combo back in the early 70's. He still races something similar, often instead of his RH250 which must say something.


Its interesting frame is pretty rough as was used as farm bike finally like all good Kiwi bikes, however it is interesting it has TM125 numbers but very well done LTR conversion from back in the day, came from Hurleyville, yep there is such a place. TS185 engine makes it 10 times easier to ride than actual TM125 screamer. I swapped the motors when I was about 16 from my first ever bike which was TS185...so arc welding special with no cash and boyish enthusiasm.

Used to ride it to work every day, plus occasionally 60 kms from Hawera to New Plymouth to race at Fitzroy, also it has done two day enduro back of Stratford. It made the journey a number of times with lighting kit to take me to trade school. To my knowledge it is on the same piston and rings, been registered but never had warrant of fitness.  ;D
Title: Re: TM185 Sidepipe
Post by: suzuki59 on January 13, 2013, 07:09:28 am
Marc are you bringing it out to the graybeards next Sunday?
If so I might sneak out for a look.
Title: Re: TM185 Sidepipe
Post by: Marc.com on January 13, 2013, 07:24:52 am
Marc are you bringing it out to the graybeards next Sunday?
If so I might sneak out for a look.

Sure am mate, I will be the one frantically trying to get the front brake to work ;D
Title: Re: TM185 Sidepipe
Post by: bazza on January 13, 2013, 07:27:50 am
Marc you have stired my emotional heart strings,started scrambles on my TS185 with Onehunga United Motorcycle Club.
Title: Re: TM185 Sidepipe
Post by: Marc.com on January 13, 2013, 03:27:26 pm
Marc you have stired my emotional heart strings,started scrambles on my TS185 with Onehunga United Motorcycle Club.

If you are coming next weekend feel free to have a blast .... the biggest shocker riding it again is the front brake or lack there on, still back in the 70s nobody touched the front brake anyhow :o
Title: Re: TM185 Sidepipe
Post by: bazza on January 13, 2013, 03:40:34 pm
Hope to take car to kumue show saturday and vmx sunday if catch up at work
Title: Re: TM185 Sidepipe
Post by: TT5 Matt on January 13, 2013, 03:49:57 pm
yeah ive got to make up my rms185 one day,got all the bits now just got to do it and design a up pipe for it like i seen on a rms125 on ebay awhile back
Title: Re: TM185 Sidepipe
Post by: huskibul on January 13, 2013, 04:16:12 pm
    Hi matt ,you dont remember any details on the rms with the up-pipe,as i had one back in 75' which i had  an up-pipe built for ,the only one i had seen for the model at the time ,traded the bike on a slider at alan craig suzuki , boolaroo ,newcastle ?cheers
Title: Re: TM185 Sidepipe
Post by: Marc.com on January 14, 2013, 05:34:51 am
yeah ive got to make up my rms185 one day,got all the bits now just got to do it and design a up pipe for it like i seen on a rms125 on ebay awhile back

Buddy of mine did similar conversion with TS185 engine into RM125C frame, went really well. Power is a bit soft and you have to keep them screaming, bit like my ole lady.
Title: Re: TM185 Sidepipe
Post by: suzuki447 on January 28, 2013, 07:28:27 pm
hi marc i have nos hopup under pipe for ts185.for sale if anyone interested.thanks don
Title: Re: TM185 Sidepipe
Post by: TM BILL on January 28, 2013, 07:35:41 pm
hi marc i have nos hopup under pipe for ts185.for sale if anyone interested.thanks don

How much do you want for it ?
Title: Re: TM185 Sidepipe
Post by: SON on January 28, 2013, 08:07:03 pm
447 PM sent 30 minutes ago,
Title: Re: TM185 Sidepipe
Post by: TT5 Matt on January 28, 2013, 10:08:25 pm
hi Huskibul
from what i remember of the rms125 up pipe is that in exited from the right side of the motor and crossed over at the rear of the head to the left hand side like a rm125a does as been awhile since that ebay bikes been sold
Title: Re: TM185 Sidepipe
Post by: brent j on November 22, 2021, 10:50:52 pm
So funny to read this thread. I built a TM185 as an enduro bike in the mid 70's and I'm collecting the parts to build another one

With a bit of fiddling this one will be an "interchangeable" bike. TM125 motor with down pipe for fun VMX or a 185 motor with pipe for Vinduros.
I reckon the motors could be swapped in about an hour or so.
Title: Re: TM185 Sidepipe
Post by: pokey on November 23, 2021, 07:42:56 pm
TS frame is way lighter so if using that the Top rear engine mount could be sorted with a bit of ingenuity Brent as the TM engine is thinner and usually a tab gets welded to suit . "Perhaps" a length of pipe could be used as a long spacer with the TS long mounting bolt.

Not sure how a 185 would go in a TM frame.

I would score a TS185A  as it has better porting to start with and the better clutch and use two separate ported barrels and ignitions.
Title: Re: TM185 Sidepipe
Post by: brent j on November 24, 2021, 07:08:19 pm
TS frame is way lighter so if using that the Top rear engine mount could be sorted with a bit of ingenuity Brent as the TM engine is thinner and usually a tab gets welded to suit . "Perhaps" a length of pipe could be used as a long spacer with the TS long mounting bolt.

Not sure how a 185 would go in a TM frame.

I would score a TS185A  as it has better porting to start with and the better clutch and use two separate ported barrels and ignitions.

My post was a bit light on detail, I actually have a bit more than 80% of a TM125, that's my starting point. I've got the TM125 motor plus I've got a 185 motor lined up so it's going to be a bit of a mix and match special.
I built one in the 70's and I seem to remember the top rear mounts match, the bottom right, rear mount is 30mm wider on the 185 and three out of four front mounting bolts line up. I'll make a second set of mounting plates to suit and a 30mm spacer for the lower rear.


Title: Re: TM185 Sidepipe
Post by: LWC82PE on November 25, 2021, 09:10:39 pm
Quote
So funny to read this thread. I built a TM185 as an enduro bike in the mid 70's and I'm collecting the parts to build another one

With a bit of fiddling this one will be an "interchangeable" bike. TM125 motor with down pipe for fun VMX or a 185 motor with pipe for Vinduros.
I reckon the motors could be swapped in about an hour or so.

Thats great news. That will be a good project.