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Title: Can Am/SWM 6 speed box needed
Post by: Drakie on May 10, 2012, 08:52:24 am
Hi all,
Riding my SWM at the Kenda Rally I realised that the 5 speed (long story short - it's Laurie Smith's bike from the 1979 ISDT with a 'factory fitted' T'n'T motor) just doesn't work with the GP rotary disc cut I inflicted on it. Does anyone have a complete 6 speed box for sale? How about a stock T'n'T rotary valve?
Title: Re: Can Am/SWM 6 speed box needed
Post by: GMC on May 10, 2012, 09:11:02 am
Don't you need a frame as well ;D
Title: Re: Can Am/SWM 6 speed box needed
Post by: Drakie on May 10, 2012, 11:45:20 am
Ah, that'd be the other sh--box.
Who can't keep a secret?!
Title: Re: Can Am/SWM 6 speed box needed
Post by: Canam370 on May 10, 2012, 01:57:20 pm
Don't you need a frame as well ;D
Don't worry Geoff, Drakies made a point of you being the ONLY one to re-fabricate his frame AND make a centrestand for him. He said that no-one else will get the work 'cause you're a mate,so you will have all his work. Made a point of saying that several times actually........ ;D
Title: Re: Can Am/SWM 6 speed box needed
Post by: VMX60 on May 10, 2012, 03:03:21 pm
Peter

We need a OSSA SDR/Phantom motor for the Blue Alron maybe a swap for my SWM black complete core motor would have to check its a 6 speed model

Also have a few TNT motors but i think there all 5speed

Let me know if you are interested in a deal

Murray

Title: Re: Can Am/SWM 6 speed box needed
Post by: supermotomc on May 10, 2012, 03:31:25 pm
what frame do you want ?why did you cut the disc was it a swm and where are you timing it too.. the std tnt was a dog properly timed the swm should take 5 or six woulnt make any difference
Title: Re: Can Am/SWM 6 speed box needed
Post by: NSR on May 10, 2012, 08:24:18 pm
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why did you cut the disc was it a swm

No it's a 5sp tnt motor in a SWM frame.  I thought it hauled, maybe a bit to much?

I have some SWM discs But I'm not sure what they fit.

Cheers
Noel

 
Title: Re: Can Am/SWM 6 speed box needed
Post by: GMC on May 10, 2012, 08:35:16 pm
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why did you cut the disc was it a swm

No it's a 5sp tnt motor in a SWM frame.  I thought it hauled, maybe a bit to much?

I thought it hauled too, I wouldn't say too much but it would be brilliant with a touch more bottom end.
Title: Re: Can Am/SWM 6 speed box needed
Post by: supermotomc on May 10, 2012, 09:57:07 pm
well suggest you add 40mm to the centre section of the straight portion of the chamber.. what degree wheels do you have? and which fly wheel do you have on
Title: Re: Can Am/SWM 6 speed box needed
Post by: Drakie on May 14, 2012, 09:12:38 am
Sorry about the delay guys, I've been incomunicado at Blackwood.
Murray, I might have a spare Super Pioneer motor which Alron used in their bikes, the head cutaway for the fins takes a stock SP pipe which Ron Lyon used too. I'm dead keen to get your SWM motor but am I fiddling a bit too much with the history of the bike? The factory did install the T'n'T motor but the original was a genuine SWM. Decisions, decisions....
Now, I admit to being a bit keen with the tinsnips but the devil in me (and the memory of Norm Watts' bike and Gunny's bike) made me go the GP cutout PK used in Gary Jones' bike which hauled.
I'm yet to check out the flywheel weights but want to leave the pipe stock for the appearance.
Thanks for all the helpfull suggestions guys, I know I'll get it right soon.
I had a ball at the Kenda Rally on it. After the all the dumb incomprehension of 'What is it?' I had it sound tested by the DSE at 93.8db @ 5000 rpm, under the latest FIM/MA/DSE 94 level. Cool. Revised suspension worked a treat and while I took a hammering from the rough, rocky and rutted course (fast too) only my hands were sore from clutch and front brake pull. Surprised a lot of riders on the downhills and caught all the guys who blasted past me on the roads in the tighter stuff; sweet. 158 ks and I only lost 2 bolts, one made the front KTM guard wave madly but it didn't break.
Title: Re: Can Am/SWM 6 speed box needed
Post by: rustedstud on May 14, 2012, 12:30:08 pm
Yeah Drakie, you past me like I was looking for parking, I thought your throttle was stuck!
Title: Re: Can Am/SWM 6 speed box needed
Post by: odd1 on May 14, 2012, 01:34:40 pm
Ive just suggested to him to put the internals of a cuckoo
clock in then he will really fly
Title: Re: Can Am/SWM 6 speed box needed
Post by: GMC on May 14, 2012, 01:44:11 pm
Ive just suggested to him to put the internals of a cuckoo
clock in then he will really fly

I don't think it would be that wise for the motor internals to be from the same components as the riders brain.
Title: Re: Can Am/SWM 6 speed box needed
Post by: Canam370 on May 14, 2012, 02:01:32 pm
Ive just suggested to him to put the internals of a cuckoo
clock in then he will really fly

I don't think it would be that wise for the motor internals to be from the same components as the riders brain.

 ;D ;D ;D Ouch!
Title: Re: Can Am/SWM 6 speed box needed
Post by: Canam370 on May 14, 2012, 02:42:08 pm
I am being forced to type this by Drakie who's dictating this diatribe whilst he holds a gun to my head.........

Morris! Why don't you get off the computer and do some useful work instead of bitching and moaning about your favourite customer!
.....and as for you Baker, the bottomless swamp at Harrow beckons.
Title: Re: Can Am/SWM 6 speed box needed
Post by: VMX247 on July 07, 2012, 10:28:50 pm
Part ready for the Kenda Rally 2013  8)
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Can-AM-250MX-1974-VMX-vinduro-AHRMA-/320937711950?pt=AU_Motorcycles&hash=item4ab960d94e
Title: Re: Can Am/SWM 6 speed box needed
Post by: Lozza on April 16, 2013, 08:07:18 pm
Is this a 125 or 250 engine?  Do you have a pic of the disc because it should be common to many Rotax engines. I'm (having hubs made to use carbon fibre sheet) certain the disc would still be available from Rotax (part number).
Title: Re: Can Am/SWM 6 speed box needed
Post by: supermotomc on May 08, 2013, 02:53:34 pm
bet you timed it on the wrong Mark