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Clubroom => Competition => Topic started by: VMX247 on November 30, 2011, 02:42:09 pm
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From FULLNOISE :: Chris Urquhart URGENT: Council decided last night that Goldcoast Mxclub will shut in 2 weeks!!! After years of working with them and jumping through hoops they are pulling the pin. With over 1000 club members and no tack to ride this is not good enough. We need everyone at the track Saturday as media etc is being arranged now (stay posted for time) if you cant support your club now you cant complain when you have nowhere to ride. Spread the word!..
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Aunty , It was in our local rag today ( Bulletin )
http://www.goldcoast.com.au/article/2011/11/30/369961_gold-coast-news.html
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Pretty piss poor from a council that has just be given the Commonwealth games and is about to have 750 mill in infrastructure to be spend by the state government!!!
It is typical of any political parties outlook on motorcycling with their head in the sand look at "bikies" in general.
We had only just joined Stanmore Park and it is a fantastic venue for racing and riding in general with practice on ever weekend that racing is not.
Good on you again Gold Coast council for giving us all someone too look up to and be inspired by!
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I can't believe the Wankers shut the only 2 mx tracks (Stanmore & Reedy Creek) down in the area at the same time!
These tracks have been there since '76/'77 when there wasn't a house in sight and now more than 2000 members have nowhere to ride.
The bike shop i work in along with all the others in the area will be greaty affected by this also... as if times aren't tough enough already!!
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Are they protesting at the tracks on Saturday? I might get the big 500 out and go up and down the road with a sign saying ' no where to ride but on your road now' or something like that. Why are sports where two teams sniff each others bums get all the help in the world when motocross gets next to nothing?
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Are they protesting at the tracks on Saturday? I might get the big 500 out and go up and down the road with a sign saying ' no where to ride but on your road now' or something like that. Why are sports where two teams sniff each others bums get all the help in the world when motocross gets next to nothing?
Ha ha that'll do it!
They are gathering at Reedy on sat morn and possibly same at Stanmore...
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Stew good article,reads to me that some in the council are peed at developers.
The money motorsports brings into town !! councils are crazy-well actually the developers are greedy :(
How ironic-quote: The Australian Motorcycle Expo Gold Coast will be held on 17-19 February, 2012.
Maybe a good protest point !!
cheers A
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From reading the magazine aticle, it's not council closing it down but the owner/devoloper, from what I understand this area has been owned by devolopers for at least the last 10 years and had not built on the land until council found another site for the club, this was suposed to happen about 2 years ago, but the devoloper gave council an extention until suitable replacement was found, council haven't done anything about it, and the devoloper has had enough of the delays.
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From reading the magazine aticle, it's not council closing it down but the owner/devoloper, from what I understand this area has been owned by devolopers for at least the last 10 years and had not built on the land until council found another site for the club, this was suposed to happen about 2 years ago, but the devoloper gave council an extention until suitable replacement was found, council haven't done anything about it, and the devoloper has had enough of the delays.
I think this is only Reedy Creek and not Stanmore. Stanmore is in a council "green zone" but noise and dust is the main issue, from what has been told at club meetings?
Same issue happened to the Gold Coast kart club (developer) and the council had earmarked land for that club as well, 4 years on still no track!!
Shane
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The Gold Coast Council is Hell bent of closing this track down for Future development and same can be said for the Archery Club next door.
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The land that Stanmore and the adjacent Archery club are on was given/bequeithed to either the council or Qld government in the late 60's/early 70's by the then land owner to be used for recreation/parks etc.....NO developer can build anything on them as far as I know and if they are going to then some pretty big dodgy deals have been done.....the Gold Coast City Council in recent years has had a Royal Commision into its dodgy deals and there was alot of red faces.....obviously nothin's changed.
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As time has passed and the land has changed from ownership.... Council to Council the original deal ( agreement ) records have been lost ??? from what I make of it.
They need to track down the local member of council of the time ;) to get the facts.
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John, Here is a classic ... passed by the Albert council and killed off by the Gold Coast C Item # 9
http://www.goldcoast.qld.gov.au/gcplanningscheme_0305/Support_files/scheme/10_schedules.pdf
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Heres A pie in the sky idea...Trust me, I had many great races at stanmore in the mid 90s, and im not ready to let them go, but how about this idea?
The clubs in question say they have approx. 2000 members, if those members can all afford to chip in $100 each, that would give them A considerable amount towards buying their own block of land. I am certain that land could be purchased somewhere inland around the border. Yes, there would be more travelling, but whats the alternative? I believe that the local bike shops and industry related businesses would contribute to the cause, increasing the revinue even more (you could even put livestock on adjistment for A small fee, keeping the grass down). The councils SHOULD be interested in supporting this idea, because they can wash their hands of the whole situation, providing they approve the project.
Insurance should not be A problem, A friend of mine runs Lytton track with their own insurance, they have not had A single problem with regards to claims.
M.A has a responsability to promote & grow the sport, possibly offering A grant to assist as well.
There is an opportunity to possibly become the masters of our own destinity if the right people with the drive to make it happen, make it happen.
Maybe i'm just dreaming...
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its been going to happen for a while and neither were supposed to be closed until the new track up behind yatala drive in in one of the old quarries was opened.wyaralong is supposed to open on the 18th of this month looks like the government trying to push both clubs to race at their facility.with 2000 members and spectator fees thats a pretty good income for them straight off the bat.cheers.
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Wyaralong is a recreational ride park similar to Blackduck not a racing facility like Stanmore or Reedy so it's not suitable as a replacement.. and that's straight from the councilor at the Reedy Creek protest on saturday.
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The pre 78 Nationals are suppose to be the first race at Wyarralong....thats in June.....and I dont think they will have very many each year.....wheres MA and MAQ when you need them....with all our money....dirtbikers must be 80% of there income....dont the dicks realise if they loose 2000 licences thats approax $500.000 .....a lot of money.......who's gonna pay for there latte's now......its very convenient that they shut them now....parliment finished for the year, councils in holiday mode, its just a joke.....I can see a spate of kids riding in the bush injuries coming up with the holidays on now and the Bacon boys chasing kids on dirtbikes wasting valuble police resources.
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100% with you, Davey...
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I read this this morning and I was shocked!!! I checked my emails and found one from Lisa Fox with the same story, but she added a list of the Councilors and the Lord Mayor as well as their email addresses. I quickly composed an email and sent to all, I hope that direct contact via email and expression of our dismay will make a difference. We are after all a legitmate sport with a sports governing body and as I stated in the email we are all Mr. and Mrs. Joe Citizen and we deserve some support in government to help us enjoy our sport of choice.
It maybe too late for Reedy Creek and Stanmore, but what I fear the most is this is only the start of more closures and less viable tracks to ride at. I think we should all do our part by starting to lobby our local and federal politicians to do more for us. I beleive that MA and QMA should be more proactive and aggressive in this area and also the big Bike companies should assist in helping us and themselves or they may find that they will only sell road bikes and scooters in the future.
Please see the email I sent to all GC Councilors and the Loard Mayor, if you send out any emails please remeber you represent a big group of people so no threats, bad language etc...
Lord Mayor and Councillors.
I am very disappointed to hear of the decision to close the facilities at Stanmore and Reedy Creek MX parks without viable alternative sites being offered to the members of these clubs and the general public. I fear that because of this action that the council will have more complaints about bikes being ridden in areas not gazetted for this use as well as an increase of injuries and accidents of riders taking part in this illegal activity.
Both Stanmore and Reedy Creek offered a safe and supervised environment for children, men, women and seniors to enjoy their recreational sport of choice. With the Gold Coast’s growing population and the increase of Motocross’s popularity as well as the increase in the Vintage Motocross I was expecting to see upgrades of these facilities and an increase of similar venues. The recent Pan Pacific Masters Games held on the Gold Coast had Motocross as events for seniors and by all accounts was a very successful and enjoyable event. The Gold Coast has hosted many international motor sport events over the years and are supporters and promoters of these types of sports, so I am shocked that you and the councillors would decide to take this action against a well organised and controlled motor sport.
Chad Reed is one of Australia’s most highest paid and profiled Australian sports stars and is highly ranked in the world standing for motocross, we did not produce this sort of world ranked sportsman by not having facilities to seed this sort of talent in Australia. I would hate to think of a young runner not having the facilities to support his Olympic dreams or have his sport banned because of complaints by others that it impinged on their life styles. At least two of the Australian 2010 VMX Des Nations Team that represented Australia in the United Kingdom uses these facilities.
Our sport is not a cheap sport to enter or to continue in and even though the sport is motorcycle based we are not a group of unemployed, bikies, adrenalin junkies, fools or trouble makers. We are mums and dads, families, engineers, doctors, tradies etc… we are truly representative of a cosmopolitan Australia and we are asking for the same considerations to be given to our sport of choice as you would give any other sporting body, be they a ball based sport or club/racket/bat based sport.
Please take further council on these matters from Motorcycling Australia and Queensland Motorcycling and reconsider your actions and the consequences to the many, many people that are currently members of these clubs and other similar clubs in Qld.
Regards,
Kevin Tomkyns
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I dont know how true it is, but A mate just called me saying that he was listening to the radio this morning and on the news, they said that due to public outrage, stanmore & reedy creek will stay open for now...
I cant confirm this as I said, A mate just rang me-hope he's right...
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Confirmed!!! Stanmore saved (for now) goldcoast.com.au/news also goldcoast bulletin has a story.
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Reedy got a 6 month reprieve. Both clubs still need to find new venues though. I believe Stapleton will cost too much to be usable
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Where is our Sport governing bodies through all this? I don't believe a small attempt to protest from them is enough! I would have expected them to call on all members and freinds of the sport to make written protests to the people who make the adverse decsions concerning our sport. Our clubs should have closer ties with each other and as we have seen in the past, what effects one club can effect other clubs (legistration).
Our governing bodies need to work closer with the clubs to get positive outcomes for it's members and the sport, the clubs then need to tell all members what is needed of them. I don't see any orchestrated response (other than here and a few emails) being organised to stop the erosion of our sport. We can not be apathetic individuals or we will lose out, we need to be organised, intelligent and resolve in our approach and this needs to come from the top (head). I am having a rant on this issue as I am from the MX days of the 70's and since coming back to the sport some changes have been good, where others like the lack of venues and restrictions on the number of events per annum have been a backward step.
"Protect your sporting rights or someone will take them away from you".
Kevin
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MA,
Here is a suggestion.....
Get all members and club members to list their skills/occupations/company positions/, you may find a wealth of professional and personal expertise to draw on. Want a lawyer/insurance broker/advertising guru/media relations-liason/doctor/engineer and so on to give some assistance! Better to get one of these from our own ranks that have a stake in the issues than a outsider, and I am sure that we in the MX VMX community would do it cheaper or not charge at all. Keep the money flowing in and through the sport and use like minded people and companies to get the results we all want.
Putting up license fee's and event costs maybe one way to meet costs, another is to look at who can supply the same service at a lower cost, in todays market I would have thought that several insurance companies would be willing to drop margin to get MA business, not increase the premium. Work and manage smart!
Kevin
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Get all members and club members to list their skills/occupations/company positions/, you may find a wealth of professional and personal expertise to draw on. Want a lawyer/insurance broker/advertising guru/media relations-liason/doctor/engineer and so on to give some assistance!
Kevin
This can also be implemented on the electronic membership form for your club..I believe Toowoomba MC club does this.
By getting the listings happening someone can do the footwork for the busy bees days..Great for clubs with large membership base.
cheers A
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Work smart, we are talking about MA dont forget, not to many smart people in there l dont think just shiney fat arses riding on easy street, from what l've had to do with MA over the short time back in the sport there not to interested the rider's, just give us your money.. Why are licence's so dear, they say because of insurance's, but when you have an accident, dont ask for any help as unless you end up in a wheel chair or worse they dont give a shit...
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MA,
Here is a suggestion.....
Get all members and club members to list their skills/occupations/company positions/, you may find a wealth of professional and personal expertise to draw on. Want a lawyer/insurance broker/advertising guru/media relations-liason/doctor/engineer and so on to give some assistance! Better to get one of these from our own ranks that have a stake in the issues than a outsider, and I am sure that we in the MX VMX community would do it cheaper or not charge at all. Keep the money flowing in and through the sport and use like minded people and companies to get the results we all want.
Putting up license fee's and event costs maybe one way to meet costs, another is to look at who can supply the same service at a lower cost, in todays market I would have thought that several insurance companies would be willing to drop margin to get MA business, not increase the premium. Work and manage smart!
Kevin
I would assume most members would use the services/products of others in the MX VMX community, I know I would and I have.
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For the life of me, I don't know why more people have not jumped on to this topic and expressed outrage over this issue. I would like to see more MX VMX facilities and tracks and less Golf Courses (Or a combination of Golf/MX Courses) Seriously, if someone wanted to take away your Drivers License or build a block of units on the local park where your kids play, how would you feel? How would you react?
Recent attempts to stop the use of motorcycles in rural areas because of noise is an example of what can happen, only if you let it. Please don't think that someone else will fight these battles, it is up to all of us to shout and be heard on issues that effect our sport or we won't have one. I don't fancy just looking at my bikes and remembering when...
Kevin
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STANMORE MX LATEST NEWS
PRESENTLY TRACK CLOSED
COUNCIL STILL TALKING ABOUT POSSIBLE REOPENING
BAD NEWS THIS IS THE SAME MOB
THAT CLOSED MIKE HATCHER JMCC
2 YEARS AGO
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Maybe we need to get 1000 of us and just head for the forestry and the industrial area's for the day, no only joking, but you do think there would be some in there with some common sence, it's probably going to end up the same as Darlington Park........... Put's a bad taste in my mouth the lack of support our club's get from both council and our governing body, is there anybody in there with kid's or that ride or ride themselfve's?????
Why can't they build us somewhere like Broadford all disiplens in the one complex..........
Here's hoping they sort something out soon.......
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Put's a bad taste in my mouth the lack of support our club's get from both council and our governing body, is there anybody in there with kid's or that ride or ride themselfve's?????
It's like everything else, they're so far removed from the general population that unless they're affected personally nothing get's done. It's why the public health system, public education etc is run on fumes. The pollies kids don't ride dirt bikes, don't go to state schools, and don't use the public health system.
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JULIA AND I RODE PRACTICE DAY YESTERDAY
TRACK VERY NICE
NOW CLOSED UNTIL3/1/12
COUNCIL STILL TALKING TO CLUB
NEIGHBOURS STILL COMPLAINING ABOUT NOISE
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Unfortunatly as these areas populate and complaints roll in any motor sport park will suffer.I rode stanmore as a kid,it was allways open and we rocked up when we liked,then people bought near the park and would have known about the noise etc and then they kick up a stink.Anything that makes noise seems to get people going.both venues have been developed all around them and the millions generated from this will overide a non profit MX club.I live in the bush just 3 KMs from an MX park and all the locals are complaining.The noice doesnt bother me one bit and isnt everyday anyway.I dont think Im very popular as I ride allmost everyday.I guess my point is that no matter where a park opens locals will make it hard due to the noise.Its hard to compare motor sport to ball,batt sports as they arnt making engine noises etc.Please dont get me wrong,Im not at all happy about the closures,just not supprised.I find it hard to believe that the governing body isnt doing more.Poeple pay through the nose and there doent seem to be too much backing.Its a very sad thing and councils really cant get away with it without offering an alternative venue for the members.