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Title: Bring on the RWC.
Post by: Curly3 on August 27, 2011, 09:59:48 pm
All tongue in cheek boy's but things are looking shaky in the "Shaky Isles".
YEEEEEHHHHAAAAAAAH.
Title: Re: Bring on the RWC.
Post by: Davey Crocket on August 27, 2011, 10:17:50 pm
The wobbilies totally deserved there win....you dont send second rate teams  to South Efrica the week before and expect to front the next week with players who think there shit dont stink and win.....the chokers first choke....and it wont be there last....too many old men and a coach who lost NZ there last world cup.....he doesnt have a plan B when plan A goes out the window and doesnt react fast enough....there all too old....dingo Deans will be one happy little camper tonight.....Quade Cooper wants to watch himself, he might get strechered off if he keeps doing some of the shit he does............looks like my $100 bet with my brother inlaw is safe. ;D
Title: Re: Bring on the RWC.
Post by: Curly3 on August 27, 2011, 10:45:01 pm
Davey, as usual the Blacks are the favourites, we'll enjoy our spoils for the momment.
The World Cup will be a lottery, as it should be.
Title: Re: Bring on the RWC.
Post by: firko on August 27, 2011, 11:25:54 pm
Great win but I'm not dancing in the street yet. We've still got a World Cup to play and hopefully win. Dingo Deans and Big Jim Williams have been slowly building a new team with one goal in mind..The Webb-Ellis Cup and tonights win tells me that they're coming on the boil right on schedule.
Tonight was the first time I've seen Richie McCaw look flustered.....a good sign that the Wallabies are now good enough. 
Title: Re: Bring on the RWC.
Post by: evo550 on August 28, 2011, 10:11:44 am
The weather gods where smiling on us last night, had it still been raining, I fear the result would have been a whole lot different, playing a slow grinding game in the fowards the All blacks dominate and the first 20mins of the second half showed that. Give Australia the ball though, and it's as though the game has changed up three gears and the All Blacks don't know which way they went. Two different teams playing two different styles of rugby. The wheather conditions will be the determining factor.....oh and the fact your playing New Zealand in New Zealand.
Title: Re: Bring on the RWC.
Post by: TM BILL on August 28, 2011, 10:36:44 am
The weather gods where smiling on us last night, had it still been raining, I fear the result would have been a whole lot different, playing a slow grinding game in the fowards the All blacks dominate and the first 20mins of the second half showed that. Give Australia the ball though, and it's as though the game has changed up three gears and the All Blacks don't know which way they went. Two different teams playing two different styles of rugby. The wheather conditions will be the determining factor.....oh and the fact your playing New Zealand in New Zealand.

I woulnd't worry to much about that , the average kiwi would struggle to buy a ticket . The fact they are still trying to sell tickets to games this close to the start says somthing.
 Well done to the Wobblies though  :) i think Joan summed it up pretty well , just that the choking has started earlier than usual  ::)
My moneys on a Poms Wobblies final  ;D
Title: Re: Bring on the RWC.
Post by: firko on August 28, 2011, 11:07:51 am
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My moneys on a Poms Wobblies final 
I've gotta admire your confidence in the Poms Bill  :-\. Unless it's pissing rain for the whole RWC, I can't see the old fashioned Pom kick, chase, rolling maul type of game working against teams with fast funning backs like the All Blacks, SA and Wallabies. I really hope you're right but it's going to take a good side to keep the All Blacks out of the finals. Of course there's also the famous All Black Choke being a factor. It's not a matter of if it'll happen but a matter of when it'll happen.
Title: Re: Bring on the RWC.
Post by: TooFastTim on August 28, 2011, 11:20:25 am
Christ, I hope the Saffies don't win it again. They'll be bloody insufferable.
Title: Re: Bring on the RWC.
Post by: Marc.com on August 28, 2011, 12:18:05 pm
I woulnd't worry to much about that , the average kiwi would struggle to buy a ticket . The fact they are still trying to sell tickets to games this close to the start says somthing.

I think there is this bullshit assumption by Governments that ALL the population support crazy multi billion extravaganza and this whole idea that the nation is suddenly 'put on the map'

Recent survey in NZ shows that only a minority 48% of the NZ population support having it. Now I am not saying don't have your RWC ..... just don't spend Olympic scale billions on sports  grounds tents, committees and inflatable Wakas until you have the rest of your house in order..... 2 million spent on infatable Rugby ball is money that would have been better spent on rebuilding Christchurch or things to the long term good. The only real benefits of these mega sporting events, apart from stroking some egos,  is it gets Government off their ass to improve infra structure like the roads in Auckland.
Title: Re: Bring on the RWC.
Post by: TooFastTim on August 28, 2011, 12:30:49 pm
Don't get me started Marc. Last year SA hosted the soccer world cup. Stadia were built and infrastructure was built or upgraded. The infrastructure was only for the world cup (e.g. roads leading to stadia) and nothing else. That country now has a financial hangover of note.
Title: Re: Bring on the RWC.
Post by: TM BILL on August 28, 2011, 12:44:24 pm
There probably spending shit loads in London for the Olympics  ::) but personally i couldn't give a fat rats arse  ;) as although i was born and raised in England  :) NZ has been my adopted home for nearly 30 yrs and this is where my heart is  :)
Still think it will be an OZ Pom final though  ;D
Title: Re: Bring on the RWC.
Post by: Marc.com on August 28, 2011, 12:54:28 pm
There probably spending shit loads in London for the Olympics  ::)

Yep 22 billion pounds was the last estimate..... Beijing spent 70 billion US and the city government is now closing hospital and necessary infrastructure to try and cover the bonds that are coming due. As for glory can anyone remember where the RWC was held 8 years back.
Title: Re: Bring on the RWC.
Post by: Mutch on August 28, 2011, 01:09:25 pm
Yep,it was in Australia and the Poms beat the Aussies in the final.
Title: Re: Bring on the RWC.
Post by: Marc.com on August 28, 2011, 01:31:44 pm
Anyway I am worried that the lasting image of NZ most fans will have is a nation that is going to gouge them on price and to justify the stupid expense has been encouraged to view the fans as just money bags on legs..... hotel charges are up to 4 times and meals in downtown Auckland are double what you would usually pay.

$500 for a bed that had a homeless dude sleeping in it until last week doesn't sounds good to me.

Like I said have the game but the emphasis should be on the game not the so called  'spectacle'.
Title: Re: Bring on the RWC.
Post by: TM BILL on August 28, 2011, 01:44:12 pm


Like I said have the game but the emphasis should be on the game not the so called  'spectacle'.

Bloody well said Marc  :)
Title: Re: Bring on the RWC.
Post by: firko on August 28, 2011, 01:53:15 pm
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have the game but the emphasis should be on the game not the so called  'spectacle'.
That's my take as well it's why the Australian World Cup was so succesful. Because we got the event by default and with a short notice when NZ had problems raising the cash to run it, there were no new stadia or any major infrastructure built. The facilities were already in use, the 85.000 capacity main stadium being a 'leftover' from the Olympics and all of the smaller venues in place to cater for the existing Rugby League, and to a lesser extent Rugby Union comps. That event is row fondly remembered by the International rugby media as the best world Cup of them all and it even made a hefty profit (which the ARU promptly pissed against the wall, but that's another story).
Title: Re: Bring on the RWC.
Post by: Marc.com on August 28, 2011, 01:56:47 pm
Bloody well said Marc  :)

Mate I am not anti RWC, but we could have taken the high ground and really demonstrated what kind of country we could be and the fans are visiting, instead of acting like kids,

nobody is going to miss the $2 million dollar giant inflatable Rugby Ball, 4 million dollar inflatable canoe, better yet inform visiting fans that the reason you are not seeing these things is that 6 million went to a children s hospital or homeless shelter. Who wouldn't be proud and impressed with countries that can make those kinds of gestures.
Title: Re: Bring on the RWC.
Post by: TM BILL on August 28, 2011, 02:17:02 pm
Those in charge will tell you " but we have to spend all this to get the corporate sponsorship " just to put a MX angle on it (and keep the "this is a VMX site" brigade happy) thats exactly the bullshit the fat Eyetie prick spins about the GPs these days .

Firko that RWC in Aussie was a corker  :) especially after that poisoning debacle at the previous one  >:( sadly i feel that boat has sailed though :'(

 I love the game but hate the bullshit that comes with it at the top level  >:(
Title: Re: Bring on the RWC.
Post by: firko on August 28, 2011, 02:29:29 pm
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I love the game but hate the bullshit that comes with it at the top level
Thankfully that's only in NZ, Bill. It's the league producing the bullshit here, where the off field crapola becomes bigger than the game.

Anyway, back on thread....Quade Cooper has ben exonerated for supposedly kneeing Richie McCaw in the head. I watched the game and didn't see the 'incident', nor did the officials but the Kiwi press were apparently all over it this morning. They seem to have blinkers on to Richies offside play and breakdown infringements but somehow saw Cooper 'viciously' kneeing dear old Richie in the head. Go figure ???.
Title: Re: Bring on the RWC.
Post by: dalesween on August 28, 2011, 06:18:26 pm
I played for years in NZ(age group through to senior) and representd Marlborough a few times and definatley know what an intentional knee in the head is,Quade got away with it and i think that's a good thing, i did'nt like the action but atleast everyone will have full strength teams at world cup time ,no bullshit excuses about a team missing a key player,bring it on!

cheers Dale.
Title: Re: Bring on the RWC.
Post by: bazza on August 28, 2011, 06:27:45 pm
THE GUYS A MAGOTT(gifted) AND AS SOON AS HE ,sbw, ANASTA AND CO GO sign to go to LEAUGE FOR THE MONEY THE BETTER.
Title: Re: Bring on the RWC.
Post by: Curly3 on August 28, 2011, 06:35:21 pm
From the home of Richard Loe ;D
Rugby can keep SBW, he's a goose and Anasta has never left League.
The Jury is still out on Cooper.
Title: Re: Bring on the RWC.
Post by: firko on August 28, 2011, 09:52:21 pm
In the end it's only a game, the odd love tap happens all the time..from both sides...I agree Cooper's a bit of a goose but he sure can play so he'll do me for now. Sonny Bill can stay in NZ for all I care. He and Cooper are under the same management team as Antony Mundine so it would seem that being an idiot might just be a prerequisite for being in that group. I don't get the Anasta jibe Mikey ??? He's a bit of a dick but he's always been a league player.
It's been a yin and yang footy weekend for me, the Wallabies won but my beloved Rabbitoes lost to the Broncos and probably ended their finals hope, reviving the old Rabbitoe credo....'maybe next year'. ::)
Title: Re: Bring on the RWC.
Post by: Curly3 on August 29, 2011, 07:37:33 am
Say no more if Mundine is involved.
The Bunnies are still in it Firko, if they can beat the Knights in Newcastle, without Inglis by the sound of it.