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Clubroom => General Discussion => Topic started by: FAT-TOY on July 28, 2011, 10:59:12 pm
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Going to get rid of my old hilux ute it's getting old now and not that reliable. Question is what to buy as a replacement? I have decided on a van, that I can get at least a couple of bikes in and also sleep in if needed maybe at race meeting or swap meet, also fuel economy is a factor and maybe a fold up rear seat. VW transporters look ok but most between late 90s to early 2000s dont have air/con fitted. Toyotas? do they have room inside, Merc Vito, Hyundai, Ford Transit what sort on mpg and performance any ideas. What do you drive?
Zane
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My brother has a Merc vito, its been good and economical, turbo Diesel Automatic, just blew the transmission, first quote to fix was $9K, second was 5 to $6K.
Go the toyota....
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There is quiet a few vito owners on this forum ;D
If I had my time and miles again with what I know now !!
I would of just gone straight for the high roof van......
Bed above bikes,kitchen up front next too driver/passenger area.!! Happy miles 8)
http://ozvmx.com/community/index.php?topic=6541.0
http://ozvmx.com/community/index.php?topic=1091.msg10336#msg10336
http://ozvmx.com/community/index.php?topic=2300.0
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Merc Sprinter , manual ;)
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Just to throw a spanner in the works The Hyundai I load. Have some friends use them as work trucks and all rave about them.
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From a service and value perspective--go the iLoad. Time will tell that all the Europe stuff is crap!.
We have a news paper delivery co. behind us with 4 TDi Caddy vans and they are sending him broke, 2 are standing waiting for g/boxes. The others are just hanging in there and he also has a Renault box van that he can just keep going.
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Merc Sprinter , manual ;)
Early model ;D
Try to give the newer TRANSIT a miss.
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I have a 2.5L transporter on the for sale page. Ideal to be made into a camper/bike mover.
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Pictures EML ;) Over on the other thread ;)
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I have always had a Van for carrying my bikes owned quite a few, heres my 2 cents worth-
Hiace (6 X from 85-02) - can't beat for ride quality and reliability, I bought 2 that had over 600000K that still drove almost like new....you don't get that with any other van. commuter buses are awesome as you can carry 4 bikes and set them up as a mobile home as well. Only reason I went away from the Hiace was Safety, as I got older I was more concerned about driving a Cab over van.....too much time spent at the car auctions seeing Hiaces with crushed passenger compartments - yuck. A mate hit a Roo and it put the glove box half way thru the passenger seat, that was enough for me to move on
Mitsubishi Delica (series 2) - Most practicle car / race transporter I have ever owned, lots of room 4WD luxury but let down by niggling little problems like most mitsu's
VW Transporter (T4) - Noisy, heavy on fuel / low on power (a great combo) very expensive when something goes wrong eg $3500 for the headers which always stuff up, no aftermarket available, very hard to get second hand. Spent over $6000 on drive train parts in 3 years... haven't spent that much on Hiace parts in 20 years!!
Vito (RWD) - Nice to drive, diesel auto is fantastic but still noisier than a hiace and Like all the Euro Vans they are very exspensive to own once they have done more thatn a 100000K
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Forgot to mention the Iload!
I'm shopping for another van atm looking for something only a couple of years old, driven most of the current crop of vans....the Diesel Auto Iload is going to be hard to beat for value, lots of room and drive OK
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I've been going to races in a mate's 01 TD Transit. Dual clutch auto.
Can't complain - happy and comfortable at 115kph, ~10l/100kms, never drops below 80kph on the biggest hills, etc.
[Touching wood] He's never had any real dramas with it - starter motor cracking the irits after getting full of water is the biggest hassle I know of.
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Wally, I had shares in a bus just like yours once except that one was blue ( I helped paint it)-come to think of it I might still be owed some on that deal. If yours goes missing try looking up north.
Don't know if any later model box vans will return that sort of milage-in fact they are built not to. And not sure where you would get a windscreen.
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Dan's hiace van in our 'for sale section' looks pretty good,(i've seen what Dan can load in it too,pretty impressive), :P
ps my vans records 6 bikes to tassie ;)
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I have a VW caddy maxi TDI manual which i use to deliver parcels as a contractor for aus post,It's 3 years old, done 55k on the clock, but if it had an hour meter it would be off the scale as it runs,stop start for up to 6 hr's a day all the time with the engine running but i only clock up 50 klm,in that time the only problems have been the clutch master shit itself (you can imagine how many times a day it goes in & out!)both cv shafts have been replaced because the boots were ripped & veedub said it was policy to replace the whole shaft & the reverse light switch on the gearbox cacked itself(once again, you can imagine how many times i go backwards in one day) all replaced under warranty. I can fit 2 pre 75 bikes in the back no probs but my later long travel bikes need to have the hangers dropped down to clear the rear door jamb,it's bloody brilliant on fuel out on the highway,has factory cruise,double side doors & lecky windows,in a nutshell i f*****g love it,dont think i'd buy the auto though,drove one,mushy as shit
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It's the autos and drive shafts that let them down--and the auto models wear out brakes like no tomorrow-pads and rotors.
Wiring can also be an issue.
The motor is ok and run on an oily rag, the same engine as plenty of others including Vitara TDi I think.
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The manuals wear out brakes too,my rear rotors are ready for duty as boat anchors & the fronts are not far behind,I do a lot of braking though :)
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pretty normal on modern stuff as since they took the asbestos out of pads they've had to make the discs softer to make them 'feel' right to the plebs.
I reckon everyone should have to learn on a pre 70 motorbike before they drive anything, that way they will understand stuff like 'brake fade' and non synchro gear shifts et al....
That brings me to another subject....but I'll start another thread for that.
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Have had a good run out of a high roof LWB TD 04 Transit. Can fit three bikes, or one and room for sleeping and gear. Does about 8.7-8.9 kps/L with about 600-700 k tank range, depending on load and terrain. It has only cost me tyres, rego and insurance so far but I have heard some horror stories regarding the cost of parts.
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Hi Ace .... Toyota Estima also is cheap as chips second hand and gut the seat out and makes nice driving alternative.