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Marque Remarks => Yamaha => Topic started by: mx250 on March 19, 2011, 09:45:26 pm
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That's no Rickman, it's a Hindall. Have a look at Bob Neilsons TT500 in VMX 44.
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That's no Rickman, it's a Hindall. Have a look at Bob Neilsons TT500 in VMX 44.
Not my claim;
"Here is a Rickman framed tt500. new rings,valve seals fork seals.it runs really well it has a brand new pair of dunlops on it.the forks are marzocchi's shocks are kurnut's and it has sun rims.the only thing that is not original is the carbon fiber side panels $6.800
John Teagle
WEST PALM, FL"
Straight from the horse's mouth ;) ;D.
But I was surprised at the Rickman claim - it doesn't look like any Rickman I've seen - but I'm no expert :-[.
I thought the XT/TT philes would get excited regardless 8).
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Not my claim;
Yeah I knew that Graeme. ::). I sent the bloke an email pointing out that he may like to change his ad title....no reply yet.
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-8/1062154/Hindall%20tt500.jpg)
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Not my claim;
Yeah I knew that Graeme. ::). I sent the bloke an email pointing out that he may like to change his ad title....no reply yet.
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-8/1062154/Hindall%20tt500.jpg)
I like the appearance of the Hindle and TT500 tank 8).
Interesting rear swingarm bracing 8).
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Sorry Firko not sure it was Hindalls finest hour. Gotta love the exhaust system .... looks like a horror show in a market where that price would but something really cool. HL500 is still the ultimate expression of 4 stroke Yam singles, or Ribi front end Cheney. ::)
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As much a Hindall fan as I am, I have to agree that Harry might have been a bit behind the trends by the time he produced the Hindall TT500 frame. The weirdly gusseted swingarm looks a bit gay but that's also where the beauty of the Hindall comes to the fore, his left field, one off way of approaching a problem....something Harry was good at. The other good things would be the precision craftmanship and extreme light weight.
Still...it's a Hindall and rare.....I wonder how long the owner has thought it to be a Rickman? As Graeme said, it's unlike any Rickman I've seen and Rickmans were out of the frame business by then anyway.
Here is a Rickman framed tt500. new rings,valve seals fork seals.it runs really well it has a brand new pair of dunlops on it.the forks are marzocchi's shocks are kurnut's and it has sun rims.$6.800
the only thing that is not original is the carbon fiber side panels and tank, fenders, exhaust and forks. I think Bobs original bike will be a fair bit cheaper than this once his probate is sorted. It was offered to me for 5k just before he died.
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I do kind of like the way the motor leans forward, swingarm looks like it came off mountain bike/
Bit out there like the KR frames for TT500. But has me thinking will TT500 fit 250 Rickman ??
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But has me thinking will TT500 fit 250 Rickman ??
I doubt it Marc, but you never know.
Love the look of that bike.
No surprises that the swingarm gussetting never caught on tho. Gussets are not where the max bending moment on the swingarm is.
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There's no way the TT engine will go any way near fitting the Rickman Montesa frame. I bought one with the hope of fitting an XL Honda engine but it didn't come close....not without a lot of hammer and oxy work anyway.
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I bought one with the hope of fitting an XL Honda engine but it didn't come close....not without a lot of hammer and oxy work anyway.
i have something better than that, a sub frame kit to convert almost any bike to Rickman tank and body work, it is supposed to be for BSA but there may be a cooler way of using it. ::)
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The seller John Teagle is a great guy to deal with I got my 1st C & J from him, he is even open to offers, not one much for emails the most you get out him is about three words, he takes paypal as well, when he found the engine to fit my bike he didn't charge me a bean (as purchase it as a roller only) all I had to pay was the shipping & what I got was the best part of a Bill Bell Long Beach Honda engine in mint condition.
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The seller John Teagle is a great guy to deal with I got my 1st C & J from him, he is even open to offers, not one much for emails the most you get out him is about three words, he takes paypal as well, when he found the engine to fit my bike he didn't charge me a bean (as purchase it as a roller only) all I had to pay was the shipping & what I got was the best part of a Bill Bell Long Beach Honda engine in mint condition.
For someone who obviously knows a bit about old bikes it puzzles my why he'd make such a boo boo. I can understand him not knowing his bike's a Hindall as they're pretty rare and not that well known, even in America. I would have thought it'd be pretty obvious that it wasn't a Rickman though. It's not remotely like any Rickman made. ???
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Those type of swing arm mods were used on heavy MX sidecars ,Much more so on the "banana bend" ones. On a solo in the middle of the arm? ,must have for looks.
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Sorry Firko not sure it was Hindalls finest hour. Gotta love the exhaust system .... looks like a horror show in a market where that price would but something really cool. HL500 is still the ultimate expression of 4 stroke Yam singles, or Ribi front end Cheney. ::)
Amazing how much alike we think there Marc ;)
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Amazing how much alike we think there Marc ;)
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Brothers from different mothers my friend, so have you ordered Ribi for the Cheney Yam or are you bored with it and wanting to sell it to me.
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HL500 is still the ultimate expression of 4 stroke Yam singles, or Ribi front end Cheney.
Yep...I have a soft spot for HL's if they're built to '77 specs but those Cheney TT500 things are plug awful to look at. Take away the interesting but busy Ribi front end and you've got another TT500 special that missed the style bus. As a Cheney owner I really love them but it'd take a mother with the compassion of Mother Teresa to love this ugly step child. ;D. (before the smart arses start up I'm well aware the bike I've posted has a YZ465 engine but I couldn't find a shot of the TT500 version in my files. This 2 stroker is actually prettier than the four stroke version. What was Eric thinking??) The Hindall may have a weird swingarm and superceded technology but it looks like a fluid unit and not like a bad acid trip.
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-8/1062154/cheney%20ribi.jpg)
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Ribis on the way ;D
Mabe you've gotten bored of your cantilever Cheney, and want to sell it to me?? ::)
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I'm disagreeing on this one Mark, I think the bike is good looking. The ribi is a like it or not thing, but I like the bike.
Mine have a more roundish tank like the older Cheneys.
Chris Malam took some pics of a really nice one with normal forks at Telford, so look out in VMX.
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I think the Ribi forks make those Cheney TTs and most likely my Cheney Honda Cantilever, there is something mechanical and very cool about them.
If I have to put shit on Cheney's.... my personel issues is with the gas tanks, most of them look like a couple of cake tins with a strip brazed down the center. When you look straight down on top they also end up with a weird taper in them. I am using Lyta tank on the Cheney Honda.
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I bought one with the hope of fitting an XL Honda engine but it didn't come close....not without a lot of hammer and oxy work anyway.
i have something better than that, a sub frame kit to convert almost any bike to Rickman tank and body work, it is supposed to be for BSA but there may be a cooler way of using it. ::)
Are you talking about who the made the MK2 Metisse in other words a BSA frame witha Rickman subframe that then allows you to fit the Metisse style bodywork? It's like an A frame that bolts to the BSA frame to support the seat base. I have a couple of them
The Metisse tank wont fit on the BSA single top tube frame. I have had a mould make for that so all the bodywork is available, new, any colour. Wont see many of them on the track......
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I think the Ribi forks make those Cheney TTs and most likely my Cheney Honda Cantilever, there is something mechanical and very cool about them.
If I have to put shit on Cheney's.... my personel issues is with the gas tanks, most of them look like a couple of cake tins with a strip brazed down the center. When you look straight down on top they also end up with a weird taper in them. I am using Lyta tank on the Cheney Honda.
I have a NOS Cheney frame for a centre port motor that Rod Spry has worked his magic on.
A set of Ribis are lined up for the front end.
I fancy the look of the 73 CR250 tank seat and guard combo which in my opionion will make a nice looking bike.
Trouble is I am seriously slow in getting things done at the money, but hope to get some help over the easter weekend.....
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Are you talking about who the made the MK2 Metisse in other words a BSA frame witha Rickman subframe that then allows you to fit the Metisse style bodywork? It's like an A frame that bolts to the BSA frame to support the seat base. I have a couple of them
The Metisse tank wont fit on the BSA single top tube frame. I have had a mould make for that so all the bodywork is available, new, any colour. Wont see many of them on the track......
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Sounds like the same frame, will it cover the BSA single frame tubes?, I can understand the twin frame as it has huge top tupe.
Also I have ordered short Ribi for my cantilever, seems hot item/
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Seems like Col will be a bussey man...ยจ
Are you guys having the single or double tube version top part?
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I have had a mould make for that so all the bodywork is available, new, any colour. Wont see many of them on the track......
I've got one of Bens Metisse bodywork kits and it's the best I've seen. Absolutely flawless.
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steel for the ribis was ordered today. Length...? not sure will set the bike up and see what to go for. 3 lengths are available. will either be medium or short as this bike is not meant to be jacked up in the air.
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steel for the ribis was ordered today. Length...? not sure will set the bike up and see what to go for. 3 lengths are available. will either be medium or short as this bike is not meant to be jacked up in the air.
I will be interested in your comments when you ride the Ribi front end. It looks interesting but I would predict that any wear in the suspension pivots would induce some vagueness into the feel of the steering.