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Title: Mid 70's suzuki 250
Post by: chrisdespo on January 17, 2011, 12:27:06 pm
I was talking with my brother the other day and we were discussing suz 250 models, I rode an rm 250 a,rm125s among others, we got hold of the ex Gary Adams rh250 that he had from Melbourne motor cycles for a friend of mine Peter Simonds shit that thing was fast. Chris Oldfield who used to ride for Bob Byres in mooroolbark chris was mech there also, we used to talk a lot as we had the Ferntreegully shop Highway MC. back to the question do any of you blokes remember the bike Oldfield had I think it was an RH looked just like the RM 250 but had the same ignition as the RH ie Magneto, I cant seem to find this bike specs anywhere, and i know it was not an RM as down the back straight at coldstream the old dump it would leave the RM sitting But when he had his B model My A was just as good. 
Title: Re: Mid 70's suzuki 250
Post by: number8 on January 17, 2011, 12:55:29 pm
I was talking with my brother the other day and we were discussing suz 250 models, I rode an rm 250 a,rm125s among others, we got hold of the ex Gary Adams rh250 that he had from Melbourne motor cycles for a friend of mine Peter Simonds shit that thing was fast. Chris Oldfield who used to ride for Bob Byres in mooroolbark chris was mech there also, we used to talk a lot as we had the Ferntreegully shop Highway MC. back to the question do any of you blokes remember the bike Oldfield had I think it was an RH looked just like the RM 250 but had the same ignition as the RH ie Magneto, I cant seem to find this bike specs anywhere, and i know it was not an RM as down the back straight at coldstream the old dump it would leave the RM sitting But when he had his B model My A was just as good. 



I can remember Oldfield on an RH250 at that time,before the RM cam along,

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Title: Re: Mid 70's suzuki 250
Post by: jerry on January 17, 2011, 04:50:21 pm
I knew Chris back in the day and it indeed was an RH. He has a business in Lilydale next time Im down there I will ask him what became of it. Whats your name so I can mention it to him. Cheers Jerry
Title: Re: Mid 70's suzuki 250
Post by: JohnnyO on January 17, 2011, 06:42:31 pm
I was talking with my brother the other day and we were discussing suz 250 models, I rode an rm 250 a,rm125s among others, we got hold of the ex Gary Adams rh250 that he had from Melbourne motor cycles for a friend of mine Peter Simonds shit that thing was fast. Chris Oldfield who used to ride for Bob Byres in mooroolbark chris was mech there also, we used to talk a lot as we had the Ferntreegully shop Highway MC. back to the question do any of you blokes remember the bike Oldfield had I think it was an RH looked just like the RM 250 but had the same ignition as the RH ie Magneto, I cant seem to find this bike specs anywhere, and i know it was not an RM as down the back straight at coldstream the old dump it would leave the RM sitting But when he had his B model My A was just as good. 
You'll be flatout trying to find any specs or books with RH info, there isn't much around. I've got 2 RH250's but not a lot of written information on them.
Title: Re: Mid 70's suzuki 250
Post by: jerry on January 17, 2011, 06:50:16 pm
No man should have 2 RH'S. Please feel free to give me one YLB! Cheers Jerry
Title: Re: Mid 70's suzuki 250
Post by: JohnnyO on January 17, 2011, 06:59:03 pm
No man should have 2 RH'S. Please feel free to give me one YLB! Cheers Jerry
Ha ha... yeah no worries ;)
Title: Re: Mid 70's suzuki 250
Post by: jerry on January 17, 2011, 08:24:26 pm
You can have one of my children if you like. One is a plumber the other one's a carpenter! Or I can throw in the pair if you like! Cheers jerry
Title: Re: Mid 70's suzuki 250
Post by: smed on January 17, 2011, 08:44:42 pm
I just put on the ning photo's a trail & track march 75 article about the Clifton hill RH that Dennis Curran rode,they gave it to a spode journo to test,looks like he's taken it out to the local vacant lot & fanged it round in flares, a Suzuki jersey & no gloves or peak on his helmet, oh the humanity!!!!!
Title: Re: Mid 70's suzuki 250
Post by: JohnnyO on January 17, 2011, 09:05:44 pm
Yeah i was just looking at that. I was searching for that T&T mag a few weeks ago to check the rear suspension mods they did to the '74 RH's.
Title: Re: Mid 70's suzuki 250
Post by: chrisdespo on January 17, 2011, 09:22:53 pm
i am pretty sure it was after the RH250B as Matt Carlson had a B i think Chris Got That after the B's were out . It looked just like the RM but the build was nuts lots of goodies.
Title: Re: Mid 70's suzuki 250
Post by: JohnnyO on January 17, 2011, 09:31:18 pm
There were a few new '75 RH's left over in '76 and i remember Mayfairs Suzuki in Brisbane selling them cheap to get rid of them.
Title: Re: Mid 70's suzuki 250
Post by: number8 on January 17, 2011, 09:37:23 pm
I just put on the ning photo's a trail & track march 75 article about the Clifton hill RH that Dennis Curran rode,they gave it to a spode journo to test,looks like he's taken it out to the local vacant lot & fanged it round in flares, a Suzuki jersey & no gloves or peak on his helmet, oh the humanity!!!!!


That's how T & T used to do all there test :D Have'nt you seen the one of Geoff Taylor's Photos on a Yamah MX something in his normal street clothes and shoes ;D

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Title: Re: Mid 70's suzuki 250
Post by: jerry on January 17, 2011, 10:26:45 pm
MX 400 if I remember correctly outside his old shop in Foster Street Dandynong.
Title: Re: Mid 70's suzuki 250
Post by: suzuki27 on January 18, 2011, 08:17:22 am
I've got a copy of the genuine specs and service data leaflet for the RH's if you need one Johnnie.
PM me.
Title: Re: Mid 70's suzuki 250
Post by: chrisdespo on January 22, 2011, 08:04:35 am
Chris D'Esposito is  name jerry. My family owned Highway MC in the gully i new chris through trade school i think and racing of course, Olie borrowed my RM125s and raced at the Grand Nat one year and I think he won the 125 race,this may have been the same year that Anton Allers Crashed but I am not sure of that. antons crash was the same day that i met my wife , I met her at iceland in Ringwood on the sunday night after the races. I will try and look chris up next time i'm in melb .
Title: Re: Mid 70's suzuki 250
Post by: suzuki27 on January 22, 2011, 08:40:03 am
Hi Chris, if you want a copy of the tech data and specs drop me a pm and I will send a copy down for you. Cheers,Bill.
Title: Re: Mid 70's suzuki 250
Post by: DR on January 22, 2011, 08:47:38 am
Johnny, I remember those RH's that Mayfairs were trying to flog off. I was almost a permanent fixture with Robbie at spares counter every saturday morning ;) $799 would have seen you own a piece of history back. Sadly the RM250A was out and nobody wanted the outdated RH when compared side by side with the Gaston replica's ;)
Title: Re: Mid 70's suzuki 250
Post by: crash n bern on January 23, 2011, 10:12:07 am
Off topic, Highway motorcycle.

My mates older brother use to tune our Z1900's for $10 a pop.  We didn't know it but all he did was set the point gap.   I was riding past Highway M/C in F.T.G. in the late '70's  the bike was farting and popping like crazy. (Just after I had it tuned mind you)
The whole shop was in the driveway watching me so I pulled in rather embarrassed and a young mechanic with sandy hair (I think) set the timing for me. probably didn't charge me more than $5 or $10 for it.  I watched what he did and took all the business away from my mates older brother tuning everyones bikes.
Title: Re: Mid 70's suzuki 250
Post by: JohnnyO on January 23, 2011, 10:50:56 am
Johnny, I remember those RH's that Mayfairs were trying to flog off. I was almost a permanent fixture with Robbie at spares counter every saturday morning ;) $799 would have seen you own a piece of history back. Sadly the RM250A was out and nobody wanted the outdated RH when compared side by side with the Gaston replica's ;)
Yeah Doc it's funny how no one wanted those RH's when they were a year old... if only we had a crystal ball ;)
Title: Re: Mid 70's suzuki 250
Post by: chrisdespo on January 23, 2011, 11:22:18 am
Yep that would be right we were always ready to help, if the young bloke was real thin and tall it was probably me if shorter my brother and if much shorter would have been paul the apprentice. hell we used to see some funny things there. i remember one day, on the other corner from the shop was the gully COP shop, this young bloke i wont mention any names came barreling down the highway on a XL250 done as a cafe now you would call a motard i guess, and throws it into the left hander to go up station street and chucks it down the road, slides across the road over the gutter and hits the wall of the copshop smoko room we were laughing our guts out the young fellow in question sitting on his arse in a heap with the bike when one of the boys in blue opens the venetian blinds has a look and cant see down to where the pile of rider and bike sits . he just closes the blind and goes back to his cuppa probably. the bike and rider is rescued and did we have something to cack ourselves over but we never gave the poor fella a hard time over it. well not much anyway.
Title: Re: Mid 70's suzuki 250
Post by: SAABCOMBI on January 23, 2011, 12:23:34 pm
There is a 1975 RH 250 here in Geelong. I have seen the bike.
Title: Re: Mid 70's suzuki 250
Post by: jerry on January 23, 2011, 01:09:04 pm
Not many RN's around though!
Title: Re: Mid 70's suzuki 250
Post by: SAABCOMBI on January 23, 2011, 01:24:55 pm
The ex Gary Adams  RN 400 suzuki is in Geelong.
Title: Re: Mid 70's suzuki 250
Post by: DR on January 23, 2011, 02:28:05 pm
One of the lucky few who've ridden an RH250 and RN400 (the latter courtesy of D.Tanner ;D) Early RH's are really nice but the early RN's are even better and something I could easily live with if I could easily afford :D
Title: Re: Mid 70's suzuki 250
Post by: frostype400 on January 23, 2011, 02:47:26 pm
Where abouts in Geelong is it on display or private collection.
Title: Re: Mid 70's suzuki 250
Post by: SAABCOMBI on January 23, 2011, 03:15:31 pm
A friend of mine races a ts tm 400 and he thinks it ants pants, every time l look at it and compare to the two TM, RH, l offen think that the tm or ts wouldn`t be a bad mount if it was sorted out properly. Any Caldacot liked his Tm, the RH where refined more and lighten, the main problem with the tm/ts is the frame.
Could someone tell me, would the ts 400 duplex frame be a better frame than the ts 400 single tubular frames.
Title: Re: Mid 70's suzuki 250
Post by: chrisdespo on January 23, 2011, 03:38:27 pm
I think that the single down tube frames are fine there is not much weight difference but the head angle may be steeper on the TM . I used to ride a TS on road and fire trail stuff and it was a good bike , heavey but good it used to shake its head a bit out of turns but that may have been the trials universal tires fitted.
Title: Re: Mid 70's suzuki 250
Post by: DR on January 24, 2011, 07:53:46 am
Geometry is the same for the TS and TM400 and I have a strange feeling the later twin downtube could be heavier with no obvious added benefit. What surprised me when building my TS's was the shear weight of the rolling chassis without the engine :o they weigh a friggin' ton, (so do the TM250/400 for that matter but the 125's are fine ;)) wheels in particular ;) go crazy and get this weight down however you can and it'd be an okay thing. Mine didn't suffer any head shake but it does have a little more trail due to the hattah forks and the axle placement I've used. The big killer for me is it's simply too heavy. Firko and Cyclone possibly have the answers in Mark's Boyd and Stelling and Ray's Cheney, both super light in comparison to a stocker.