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Marque Remarks => Yamaha => Topic started by: Captain Bilko on December 19, 2010, 06:04:10 pm
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I've been trippin' over the bloody thing for long enough now so I thought I'd better do something with it.
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I couldn't be bothered rooting around with the stock shock when you can get a custom built one from Works Performance shipped to you for about 400 bucks.
Built for 80 kgs with gear on it has duel rate springs (the stock is one single rate one which seems a little weird) and just looks the ducks nuts.
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I got these crap plastics for it. Probably the only bits I'll use will be the side-covers and the rear guard. I've cleaned up one of three radiator cowls which hasn't been beaten' up too sevearly and the fuel tank as well.
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Baking up an engine in the oven. Nicely nicely..... ;)
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im glad you have decided to go with the little brother of the infamous widow maker 465 ,hopefully you will b able to keep this bad boy under control and stay outa the ambulance :D :D :D :D :D :D :P
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does walter know you have bought that shock ;D benadickt arnould
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does walter know you have bought that shock ;D benadickt arnould
Pot, this kettle. Over.......
Walt doesn't make little mono-shocks like this and I doubt few could do it for this price. Anyway. It's a rider, not a racer. ;)
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im sure he could machine up a piece of water pipe with a couple off lacker bands to get you going ;)
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:D :D :D
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Plastics no good Rossco. I will have to use them for my 80H as well :-\ - those rear guards NOS are like fricken hens teeth. Side cover - forget it :'(
Can't wait to see it finished. Shock looks excellent and pretty good value too. Keep up the photos - rebuilds are always the most interesting posts IMHO.
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As much as I love mini bikes, especially xr 75's, twin shock cr80's and kx 80's, even all the yz80's up till a K anyway. I always stop short of buying one as the reality of getting limited use out of it and when the money can go towards a resto that is waiting inline. Long ago back in the eighties I collected xr75 stuff but let it go long ago. I take it you had one back in the day? I had to step up to a 12nothing that year. the 'H' was the bike with the most memories for me. Yammies were the bike to have.
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No I didn't have an 80 J. I had a brand new KX 80 D2 that year. As I said in another post I was so happy with my green single shocked bike untill my first race on it that year. Out of about 25 bikes on the start line, 23 of them would have been Yamaha's. As much as the KX was fairly 'new', the J's were a different thing again. I don't know if it was mainly pschyc but with the water-cooling, safety seat and that trick looking front plate, they just blew me away and my year was shot from the start. They just seemed to handle really well and the KX didn't wanna do anything right. The only thing green in my camp was the envy.....
In retrospect the KX would probably be the bike to have hung onto as far as being 'collectable' but like my attachment to the 414 22 years after owning one, I had the same thing with these little rockets.
It's great that people have done up all those XR 75's but it'd be good to see some eighties from the era about as well. They're all part of Aussie motocross history and many careers were started on these types of machines. Technology had been going ahead in leaps and bounds in the little bikes as well by then.
How about instead of the endless procession of Maico 490's, (wanna be) HL yama's and KX 500's we see around here we get a few more 'tiddlers' out there..... :-\
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Have you tried Yamaha for some plastics...I know their still avaliable for bigger 'j" models.
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The only thing I could get off them was a couple of 80 J front guards (with the recess for the cooling at the bottom of the head-stem).
One of the biggest problems is trying to get the seals that go in the steering for the watercooling. Can't seem to get them anywhere and no one seems to make an aftermarket one... :-\
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How about instead of the endless procession of Maico 490's, (wanna be) HL yama's and KX 500's we see around here we get a few more 'tiddlers' out there..... :-\
I've got a couple of tiddlers on the go that should keep you happy Rossco. I'll post some piccies when I get a chance.
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The top seal still can be had from Yamaha in the US but the bottom ones NLA if its anything like the one on my 125 it's a weird inside out looking thing.
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Can anyone give me an idea of the frame/swingarm colours? Just roughly. I don't want codes or anything like that. The frame seems to be a sort of gloss black and the swingarm silver. Am I about right? :-\
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Frame is gloss black and swing arm is wheel sliver yz250h had a good match I think it was gm wheel sliver?
http://ozvmx.com/community/index.php?topic=10788.0 (http://ozvmx.com/community/index.php?topic=10788.0)
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After spending about three hours trying to press the pin out that holds the shock onto the swing-arm, one of the bushes fell out into my lap. Upon closer inspection I found that some person had cleverly improvised a piece of garden hose with some duct tape wrapped around it (obviously in the middle of some big dessert race or some-such thing ::)). See if you can pick the real one.....
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Needless to say, the swing-arm's a little flogged out.....
Here's another great piece of improvisation. Why waste valuable loc-tite when you can just weld that sucker onto the crank?
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On a brighter note, all that stuff that I've ordered is making its way here from all over the world, Yay!
New rims and spokes delivered for about 200 bucks.
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and HEAPS of stuff from my Yamaha dealer. Apart from those pain-in-the-arse steering head seals, there's an abundance of NOS stuff.
Even the air-cleaner is factory Yamaha and it's just so cute i wanna stick it in Nanna's crystal cabinate with the Royale Daulton. ;)
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Here's another great piece of improvisation. Why waste valuable loc-tite when you can just weld that sucker onto the crank?
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I thought you said weld, all I see is birdshit ::)
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some broken clutch basket tangs as well i see ::)
i am surprised by NOS piano parts available!
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Less tangs = less pressue at clutch lever :P
Keep them pics coming 66M
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66M, I have a spare YZ80 swingarm, that I'm fairly sure is J model, if you want one
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Luckily I have a second one there JC but thanks very much for the offer. :)
If anyone does have a muffler for one (or maybe a G or H) in decent condition I'd be more than happy to part with some 'hard-earned' for it.
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i am surprised by NOS piano parts available!
G`day Hoony,
don`t be suprised mate, Yamaha quality remember no need for spares until nearly 30 years later. : ;D Peter
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i am surprised by NOS piano parts available!
G`day Hoony,
don`t be suprised mate, Yamaha quality remember no need for spares until nearly 30 years later. : ;D Peter
about time someone took my bait, happy new year PeteSki
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Yamaha quality remember no need for spares until nearly 30 years later. : ;D Peter
They must have chopped out an awful lot of steering head seals...... :'(
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hey just wonder were you got you wheels and spokes from?
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This is them.
http://myworld.ebay.com.au/vintage_001/
Had a pretty productive weekend. Maico Girl graciously removed the hubs from the rims for me in her usual efficient way....
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Blasted the hubs, backing plates, the cat.....
Painted it all (the cat was over the fence by this stage)
The back rim laced up a treat (although I get the impression the nipples are made from butter) and:
WALLAAH!!
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Grouse. ;)
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Here's one for ya Ross, never been raced :D
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Yz-80-1st-water-cooled-early-80s-fun-bike-/110629227579?pt=AU_Motorcycle_Parts_Accessories&hash=item19c2040c3b (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Yz-80-1st-water-cooled-early-80s-fun-bike-/110629227579?pt=AU_Motorcycle_Parts_Accessories&hash=item19c2040c3b)
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There's something about that pic that screams out "Child Protection Agency" or "RSPCA"...... :(
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Been a little busy makkin' sure my Viper bike's ready (didn't even need new rings when we checked out the top. ;)). That's all fine so now it's back to this little beasty.
Engine is all done. New top end, crank, bearings and seals. Sweet.
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Seat cover and graphics for it have arrived (not a hope in hell of getting anything like the standard Yamaha cover but the black'll be cool).
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Notice the W/P shocks reservoir line is a little shorter than the stocker? :-[
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This is why....... :D
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Just gotta take the bottom reservoir support from the frame and put it on swingarm for a little more support.
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Ross Ross Ross Ross ::) Think of the unsprung weight for God's sake ;D ;D ;D ;D
What are you thinking ;D
No good can come of this flirtation with another Yamaha ;D
The shock does look good though along with the engine ;)
Have I used enough little faces ??? ??? ???
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Always the way. After spending a zillion dollars on mine, this one turns up. If you're interested in an 80 this'd be the way to go. Very original (the pipe and muffler's probably worth the asking price!).
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200567690885&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:AU:1123
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Bear here ive got a mint front number plate for your yz80j with the mesh on on it, pm me Gaz
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It's the waiting that I hate.
Waiting on stuff to get here from Speed & Sport :(
Waiting for the seat base to get back from the plastic welder :(
Waiting for the frame to come back from the metal welder because some knob thought it'd be cool to by-pass the water through the steering head (because they were too dumb to go down to a Yamaha dealer or get on the internet >:(). They cut the piping from the frame off because they're so much cleverer than the Yamaha engineers.... :'(
But the seat foam came back! :). For the last few years I've been tossin' out seat foams because the side of them have been all cracked, falling out and generally looking like shit under the nice new cover.
But for the life of me I couldn't get a replacement seat foam for the 80 J :o
So in a last ditch attempt I took mine to the upholsterer and begged him to cut me a newwie. He said it would cost a packet.......but he could repair the one I have. What!?
Yes they cut the crook stuff out, replace it with good bits and then put a natty little cover over it. It looks very strong and I reckon' it'll hold up under regular use.
Total cost. $27.50 ;D.
I give 'em $30
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I give 'em $30
Your generosity is only exceeded by your good looks Rossco ;D
That's bloody good tip though - especially for those hard to get (or odd shaped) foams 8)
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Your generosity is only exceeded by your good looks Rossco ;D
Yes I'm known around town as a bit of a philanthropist. Except with kids. I belt them with a big stick that I carry....
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Always the way. After spending a zillion dollars on mine, this one turns up. If you're interested in an 80 this'd be the way to go. Very original (the pipe and muffler's probably worth the asking price!).
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200567690885&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:AU:1123
just bought it and finishe restoring it want to no how that shock is i is it good mine blown the bikes a trapolin thanks
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just bought it and finishe restoring it want to no how that shock is i is it good mine blown the bikes a trapolin thanks
Good on you. That would've been a great buy.
I hope your patient as I'm probably a months off riding this thing. Just bouncing on the shock when I had it all roughly set up felt like it was gunna be in the ball-park. ;)
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just bought it and finishe restoring it want to no how that shock is i is it good mine blown the bikes a trapolin thanks
Good on you. That would've been a great buy.
I hope your patient as I'm probably a months off riding this thing. Just bouncing on the shock when I had it all roughly set up felt like it was gunna be in the ball-park. ;)
hows the shock that you bought thinking of buying it
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Yes I'm known around town as a bit of a philanthropist. Except with kids. I belt them with a big stick that I carry....
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You'll be needing that stick again once the 80 is up and running,most kids won't know what an YZ80J is.
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Found out you can still get OEM seat covers (black) through Speed & Sport.
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OEM muffler
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where u get them from thanks
also what do u think of that shock u got for it thanks
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Almost wore my frosties when I happened upon this on Marks Swap Meet this morning.....
http://www.vintagemx.us/cgi-bin/largephoto.cgi?C=Smrvf7RRjRJWmhcj
Turns out it's for a 60. Damn! There's gotta be 80 J hop-up parts out there somewhere..... :(
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Doesnt look like a yz60 arm to me, the yz60 arm only has one of them vertical strengthening bars, also the yz60 arm mounts on the outside of the frame, that one looks like it mounts on the inside of the frame like the yz80h and yz80j, get him to give you the measurements ;) i can measure my standard yz60 arm and see if i is anything like it, that would look very trick on your 80j ;D
60s where also only made from 1981-1983
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Will do. Thanks. ;)