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Clubroom => Bike Talk => Topic started by: jimg1au on December 12, 2010, 08:10:05 am
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hi
i have the choice of buying only 1 of the above.the monty 250 cappra is a 1968/69 and the rickman is the same eara with side pipe.the owner will only sell 1 so i would like other people opinion of these 2 bikes.i raced a 1968 in the early 70s and liked it
jim
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New Milton's finest every time.
Quick motor in a quality chassis.
All parts available bodywork wise so you can ride it in anger with out worrying about not being able to replace parts.
Rickman every time.
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I think if comes down to appearance I'd have to go for the Cappra. Very sexy. The Rickmans look like they fell out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down (but so do the VE's and I love them!). Just make sure you get either of them..... ;)
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rickman montys look like they have been hit with the ugly stick ;)
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If the angular lines of the Montessa Metisse dont tickle your fancy then you can fit a body kit that utilises the curves of the Petite Metisse / MK3 Metisse.
The same kit also fits the Rickman Zundapp.
Talk to Firko, he'll tell you about it.....
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thanks
i have a while to make up my mind he is in no hury to sell.
will talk to firko
jim
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I think you'll find the Rickman is not pre70 legal whereas the cappra is, if that makes a diff to yr choice.
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yes i was looking for pre 70
jim
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jim, buy the clock work orange model. they are very rare bike now, great looking bike. we owned the 360 69 model back then very fast bike on natural terrain.
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As John says, I'ts doubtful the Rickman would squeeze into pre '70. Sure they're ugly but they're unique and actually lighter than a Cappra. Having said that I'd be going for the Clockwork Orange Cappra....cool bike and competitive in the class, Bill Brown's won a couple of pre 70 Nats on his bike.
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(http://i943.photobucket.com/albums/ad275/albrid3/68cappra250-1.jpg)
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(http://i943.photobucket.com/albums/ad275/albrid3/360cappra.jpg)
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If the angular lines of the Montessa Metisse dont tickle your fancy then you can fit a body kit that utilises the curves of the Petite Metisse / MK3 Metisse.
The same kit also fits the Rickman Zundapp.
Talk to Firko, he'll tell you about it.
Flower Pot Men...Bill and Ben....the Penny just dropped :o. I'm getting a bit slower on the uptake the older I get Ben, I didn't realise it was you ;D. I owe you a long update letter so hopefully you'll get something before Christmas. As far as the MK3 fibreglass for Rickman Montesa and Zundapps go, I can fully reccommend Bens glass kit. The quality is unbelievable, far, far better than the original Avon stuff which in itself was excellent.
I've been sidetracked on other projects and haven't got to start on my little Micro but I hope to get into it in the first half of next year. To keep the bike in line with my Cheney RT1 and Hindall DT1 I've decided to go with a DT1 engine to create a sort of Yamaha aftermarket framed trio. The Maico engine is going into one of my Sprite frames to build a replica of Terry Chalinors works Sprite of 1968.
Oh yeah...........a belated welcome to the forum mate ;D
Flower Pots Mk 3 kit for Rickman Montys and Zundapps
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-8/1062154/yellow%20rickman%20%20glass%20set.jpg)
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I've competed on the 250 &360 GP models in the late 60s an early 70s, and can confirm their competitiveness, both on short circuit and scrambles. The Rickman may be lighter, but doesn't compare for looks, especially that horrible looking expansion chamber running up the side of the bike!
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The genuine montesa cappra 250 1972 model ( grey ghost ) wasn`t a bad bike, l raced one and went ok on it same year rickman tried to copy, for me they didn`t succeed. Lyall O`Brien never sold them.
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Mike Middletons under construction '68 360 GP Monty. Mikes had this bike since new but it's lived the last 30 years buried in a hedge. Thankfully it's now coming back to life.
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-8/1062154/IMG_1194.jpg)
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-8/1062154/IMG_1200.jpg)
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-8/1062154/IMG_1193.jpg)
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-8/1062154/IMG_1204.jpg)
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very very nice
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beautiful restoration. those foot pegs look like propper ankle breakers!
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If the angular lines of the Montessa Metisse dont tickle your fancy then you can fit a body kit that utilises the curves of the Petite Metisse / MK3 Metisse.
The same kit also fits the Rickman Zundapp.
Talk to Firko, he'll tell you about it.
Flower Pot Men...Bill and Ben....the Penny just dropped :o. I'm getting a bit slower on the uptake the older I get Ben, I didn't realise it was you ;
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I always go racing with my Dad, just in case there is a bike problem as he is the best Mr Fixer there ever has ever been.
Typically we dont have problems (hope I'm not tempting fate there a bit)
A big consideration is ~ heaven forbid ~ there is an accident and I need help.
The main reason is that he is a great bloke and my best mate. We are a great team and I love spending time with him.
Oh, and his name? William. Most people call him .........Bill
Bill and Ben ..... seemed like an obvious alias!
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Ben I guess it's that I didn't expect you to pop up on this forum, being in sunny Bristol and all....and you didn't even mention it either, you naughty munchkin ;D. It didn't even enter my mind 'til you mentioned me as a reference for the tank. I've sent you a PM.
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Tell him to vaccum before photos next time..... that place is a mess, or so my missus says.
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He's a batchelor, as if it wasn't obvious with the bike in the living room. ;D
The funny thing is that the house is as neat as a pin and the bikes look right where they are!
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-8/1062154/MIDDLETON10.jpg)
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-8/1062154/middleton3.jpg)
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-8/1062154/middleton15.jpg)
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There might just be something in that Firko......
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mmmmmm tasty bit of gear that woods honda.