OzVMX Forum
Clubroom => General Discussion => Topic started by: PE MAN on December 06, 2010, 06:39:35 pm
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need to get some new tyres... whats everyone opinion. i been looking at the michelin M12 mid terrain. they look pretty chunky.
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I have been using the Michelin and like them allot.
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I've been having a great run with Bridgestones for a few years - but I also see quite a lot of S12 Michelins in the pits!
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I find m12 front s12 rear works for me although I've done some very muddy rides on a m12 rear and found it hooked up quite well and was better on hard packed dirt or rocks.
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Love the M12 front.
Been trying the Pirelli Scorpions lately also- pretty hard to fault.
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Bridgstone 404 rear and 403(i think :-[) front is the tyre of choice for myself. i have tried quite a n8umber of different brands to see if there is much difference, and found the bridgy's to hang on really well in all conditions and seem to wear very well. Next tyre i try is them new dunlop mx51's ??? they get a good wrap
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ahhh yea... reckon i might give the m12s a go... i had a old bridgestone motocross m22 on it before... would just spin the wheels everywhere.
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Ive run intermediate michelins on a few bikes over the last couple of years and found them very good allrounder ,but after a while start to chip or loose a few knobs ,especially if it's a bit rocky! aparently theres another newer model (S 12- XC) which are now made in spain and not thailand that have a better compound,? dont know if there available in oz yet ?
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ohh yea, might look into it... yea most of the time i am in soft sand or compacted dirt or a mixture. dont really see to much rocks unless i take it up to a mates farm. but wont be often.
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I think they were made in the eu originally (Spain ?) and then they started coming from Thailand but the Thai ones tended to cut up badly rocky rides just murdered them they felt like a harder compound or something. But the last few I've bought were Spanish and they've been better.
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aparently theres another newer model (S 12- XC) which are now made in spain and not thailand that have a better compound,? dont know if there available in oz yet ?
Been available for about 12 months now.
Fronts:
Haven't used an S12XC, but the old S12 is hard to beat on a prepped MX track. For a soft terrain tyre, they grip quite well on hard stuff, but they don't last if you do that to them...
The AC10s are very average tyres, even allowing for their "all puprose" design. I really like the MH3 as a do everything tyre - good grip everywhere, excellent feel, and decent life.
Someone on these forums once said "Dunlop have never made a decent front tyre" and I reckon they're right. 756 is pretty good in the soft, but a S12 will murder it. 742(?) isn't bad as an enduro tyre, but they're not much chop on an MX track. 739(?)s seem to work well on some of my bikes, but awfully on others.
Happy with the two front Bridgestones I've got - M401 & 601 IIRC???
Rears: Round, black, with some knobs on it and its all good. I can't really say anything useful about rears - everything seems to work about the same for me.
I guess S12s are my default for MX bikes for the same reasons the fronts are.
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yea most of the time i am in soft sand or compacted dirt or a mixture
S12 front
Michelin Metzeler MC4 rear
(http://images.motorcycle-superstore.com/ProductImages/300/633014456074687500MC4Rear.jpg)
- Designed to excel in soft to medium-hard conditions with a stable carcass and self-cleaning knob design
- Aggressive center knob pattern delivers excellent straight-line traction and braking
- Low weight/high-strength carcass for stability, bump absorption and puncture resistance
- Offset side knobs for increased cornering traction
My choice for sand or compacted dirt . Nice controlled slides out of the curve... ;D
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so many decisions now... ha. thanks for all the input. reckon i got my combo.
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AC10 mitchelins wear out quick. If you want michelin and your gonna do any sort of tar/dirt road work then get the Baja or Desert models. I take it this is for the PE? Pirelli MT18 and MT21 are not too bad either.
Also if its for on road use make sure it doesnt say not for highway use or NHS as the cops can ping you.
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Michelin MC4 rear
Metzeler?
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Metzeler, thanks... ::)
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yea nah wont be for road use. was think about it but if i do that will get new rims an chuck road tyres on it. nah this is just for use at the local track which is most of the time very sandy. intermediate track is a mainly compacted dirt... i want my tyre to last a little longer so am thinking of going the M12 on the front. S12 looks like a great way to go but reckon itll get eaten pretty quick. the metzler mc4 looks like the right way to go for a rear wheel. been doing a little research an reading reviews on each tyre...
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I ran the Dunlop756 on the rear of my WR450F and was very durable.
My mate had a Mich on the rear of his KTM530 and knocked the knobs off the tyre on sandy,rocky,hardpacked.
Then decided to try the replacement for the dunlop 756 on the rear called Geomax and was very happy with it.
I changed the 756 to the Geomax at the start of the year and after 2 rides,the wear and grip was very good...then sold the bike. ;D