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Marque Remarks => Husqvarna => Topic started by: Mike52 on November 30, 2010, 07:54:23 pm
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1985 WR 400 Complete . [ Not running , ignition problems ] :) :) :)
(http://i753.photobucket.com/albums/xx172/mike52_photo/shed/receipt.jpg)
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Cool have you got any photos of the bike. :)
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Pick it up next week Frosty, photo then.
Mike
Still have to start on that PE too.
Which one to do???????????
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I being a PE man would still start on the husky first. ;)
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That is a good find.
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Almost finished my 86 240 WR , gave her the first kick in the guts today and it started on the second kick [ Oh JOY of JOYS ]
That,s with a COMPLETE DT175 ignition fitted , flywheel - stator and cdi. Have tried the $18 [ Ebay ] chineese CDI and coil and they work too.
Happy , Happy.
Now to finish scrubbing the brown stuff off the Fuel Tank. :)
And try to figure out the rest of the wiring.
Oh and fit some real fork seals from the US and NOT the new leaky ones that I got from Ebay. [ Watch those ones , they look like real ones but aren,t ] :o
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Mike..can you detail the Yammie ignition you used..what year etc..also I have a chinese ignition..can you give some detail about how you fitted etc..even maybe some pics..??
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I would be interested in the fit as well
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Me three :)
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Will post pikkys over weekend.
Big job if you have to pay someone . Ok if you have a small lathe and some sort of idea.
Was first put onto this by HuskyAU on this forum. He has used a later PE setup [ later ones are ideal size and weight ] but finding a flywheel is a real pain. I searched the world with no luck. Found one stator which I later sold to FROSTY.
Later PE ones are bigger. Early Pe flywheel is too small I rekon. Could use it but motor would be a bit revvy . Chineeze flywheel is OK but the CDI trigger has nowhere to go without cutting the crankcase. Would have liked to use it because you can get the lot for $55.
So I tried a 85 Dt one, works good although it fires on BDC as well. [The way its built ] No probs with that tho.
I had to take the centre out of the flywheel and make a new one with the right taper. Also machined both the backing plates to fit each other. [ pain getting the clearances right ] Pe would have been better. Dt flywheel is a little bit heavy too.
There are 3 different tapers on Huskys so the DT might fit one of them but not the 86,s. :'(
Bought a CDI to suit the DT and also got a Chineeze one and made a kit one to try [ All work OK ] I Am using Chinese CDI and coil on this one. but later Husky[ 98 ] coil works too. [ Has an external CDI so is just a plain coil ]
All works no probs.
One small thing . The Dt is 6 volts. ::) Bummer
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Mike..I'm really curious as to which Chinese ignition you used and it's suitability to suit a 2 stroke. I've got a couple of these ignitions, one earmarked for my Ducati 250 and I'd like to experiment with the other on a 2 stroke, possibly one of my DT1/RT1 engines.
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I was wondering whether they would work on my 81, KTM 390
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Um, it might just be me, but it seems like an awful lot of work & mucking around when you can just get your SEM or Motoplat repaired.
K
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Um, it might just be me, but it seems like an awful lot of work & mucking around when you can just get your SEM or Motoplat repaired.
K
Yep Bigk you have a point there.
BUT
I have a rewound SEM here [ dud ]
I have just bought a Wr 400 with a DUD ignition.
Mate has a 84 Wr 240 [ on 3rd motoplat now ]
Another mate has a 250 Wr [ ignition DUD]
I had a Montessa King Scorpion [ Dud motoplat ]
Yep a lot of trouble to go to BUT I have never heard of a DT doing it,s ignition and if they do it is sooooo easy [ and cheap ] to fix. :)
Cheers Mike
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Yep...and I even sent a Motoplat away to Geelong...when it came back it was only working when going in the wrong direction ..anticlockwise... :(......now run PVL...but a bit exe.....so any cheaper alternative would be nice...and to tell you the truth ..I am not all that fussed about the quality of the spark on our PVL's..even with an earth wire fitted between the stator and the coil...
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..I am not all that fussed about the quality of the spark on our PVL's..even with an earth wire fitted between the stator and the coil...
I've got PVL on all of my Maicos and one of my Yamahas and I'm starting to believe they're nothing flash in the spark department myself, not to mention being a fair bit overpriced. Sure they're pretty reliable but so are Maico points magnetos. There has to be a cheaper modern style CDI alternative. As far as Motoplats, I was cured of them years ago. I had the same "backwards' experience as Watt with the last one I had rewound. I hate 'em.
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All my Huskies still have SEM or Motoplat, no drama's. The ones I have had repaired, both SEM & Motoplat, no problems. The biggest mistake one of you made was sending it to Geelong! No need to go into the nitty gritty but if anyone out there has those thoughts, NO! The guy who does them for me can be a tad slow, but they have been spot on so far.
Cheers,
K
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......now run PVL...but a bit exe.....so any cheaper alternative would be nice...and to tell you the truth ..I am not all that fussed about the quality of the spark on our PVL's..even with an earth wire fitted between the stator and the coil...
Save the pennies, a HV stator/rotor with a programmable ignition is currently being boxed up to send here. Will be cheaper and far better than the teutonic shitters ;) ( the flywheel bore will be blank to machine to any taper) Will run clockwise or anti clockwise. With the matching coil will have a spark jump a 20mm free air gap
(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s297/Lozza85_2007/78mm_generator_.jpg)
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Husqvarna Motoplat and SEM replacement ignitions available here (good quality)
http://www.powerdynamo.biz/deu/systems/lists/husqvarna.php
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I think these went under the previous name of MZB ! aparently a very reliable unit :)
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I wanted to drive to North Geelong to get a pe400 stator rewound to 12v but reading this makes me think that it might not be a good idea there is only 1 in geelong that does stators so I assume that is who you are talking about I don't know them I just know where they are so bad idea?
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All my Huskies still have SEM or Motoplat, no drama's. The ones I have had repaired, both SEM & Motoplat, no problems. The biggest mistake one of you made was sending it to Geelong! No need to go into the nitty gritty but if anyone out there has those thoughts, NO! The guy who does them for me can be a tad slow, but they have been spot on so far.
Cheers,
K
G'day K, i have a mate who recently had one done in Geelong for a 2002 WR250 Husky, its now playing up again after 8 mths, who do you get yours done by? PM me if you like !
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I think these went under the previous name of MZB ! aparently a very reliable unit :)
Yes correct, used to be called MZB
http://www.powerdynamo.biz/eng/info/vape.htm
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Save the pennies, a HV stator/rotor with a programmable ignition is currently being boxed up to send here. Will be cheaper and far better than the teutonic shitters ;) ( the flywheel bore will be blank to machine to any taper) Will run clockwise or anti clockwise. With the matching coil will have a spark jump a 20mm free air gap
(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s297/Lozza85_2007/78mm_generator_.jpg)
There you go.
Brilliant. :)
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I'm going to give the 'Lozzignition' a try on the Cheney RT1. The shiny rotor won me over. ;D
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(http://i753.photobucket.com/albums/xx172/mike52_photo/Dt%20ignition/1.jpg)
LEFT to RIGHT , Dt , Husky , Chinese , PE. The euro ignitions are too fragile for my liking.
(http://i753.photobucket.com/albums/xx172/mike52_photo/Dt%20ignition/2.jpg)
Chinese ignition . The trigger sticks out too far to use in Husky . Bummer . Cost $55 complete.
(http://i753.photobucket.com/albums/xx172/mike52_photo/Dt%20ignition/3.jpg)
LEFT is original DT flywheel centre . Right is the first attempt at a centre to fit the Husky taper. Clearances wrong.
(http://i753.photobucket.com/albums/xx172/mike52_photo/Dt%20ignition/4.jpg)
DT flywheel with new centre installed.
(http://i753.photobucket.com/albums/xx172/mike52_photo/Dt%20ignition/5.jpg)
ONE of the reasons why I did this . If you look closely at the magnets those little lines are cracks. Just waiting to explode.
(http://i753.photobucket.com/albums/xx172/mike52_photo/Dt%20ignition/6.jpg)
DT stator fitted to 86 240 WR. I am going to put this ign on the 400 and use the early PE on this bike. [ Flywheel closer to the right weight]
(http://i753.photobucket.com/albums/xx172/mike52_photo/Dt%20ignition/7.jpg)
I do like that ignition of Lozza,s. Wonder what they cost? I can buy new SEM copy for $400 locally but I don,t trust them.
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If you want to play with this stuff then this guy has some good ideas and the CDI unit wiring diag is the same as in the above Chinese CDI.
http://www.btinternet.com/~jhpart/bkns125a.htm
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Mike there is a pit bike ignition from Chinese ebayer JR MOTORSPORT PARTS DEPOT (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Performance-Racing-Stator-Rotor-Kit-Dirt-Bike-140-150cc-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem255f38cb5bQQitemZ160511347547QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories). I bought a load of Hydraulic clutches of him and his bits are cheap as and spot on. He has an ignition with a smaller rotor, which should fit in the cavity. There is also a DC/DC pit bike ignition but that is the same size(105mm rotor) with 12v output
Only be a week or so before the shiny new ones are here.They will be PC/hand held controller programmable I got the manufacturer to make intergrated silcone dust caps for the interface. Just pm me if you want more info
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Ta Lozza bought one of those and will have a play with it.
Was never after anything smick just something that did the job.
Hate pushing bikes .
Mike
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(http://i753.photobucket.com/albums/xx172/mike52_photo/400.jpg)
(http://i753.photobucket.com/albums/xx172/mike52_photo/400a.jpg)
All the standard Husky problems.
Ignition POPPED , ignition cover screws done up too tight , plastics chalky [ But tank Ok??] Rims cracked. Sidestand loose.
Someone has had a go at painting the plastics and managed to paint everything except the tank.
Painted the fork sliders too. Got the hub and backing plate while they were at it.
Exhaust has 1 small dint. JOY. :) Forks are knackered but I have a good spare set.
Someone has cut the front and back mudguards off short for some reason known only to them ???
Nice compression with no rattles.
Radiator is still full of coolant ,which is surprising.
Bike is in a lot better condition than the 240 was when I bought it for $400. :o
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How's the water pump casing?
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o82/evo550/IMG_0598.jpg)
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Would not be surprised to find that sort of damage when I take the pump off. Which is why I was surprised to see coolant still in the radiator.
Was lucky with the 240 , only had the seal area totally gorn.
Sleeved the seal area with stainless sleeve.
Rivited the sleeve to the stainless backing plate to stop the coolant coming into contact with the main material.
My 86 250 exc did that as well and I,ve heard of some jap bikes doing it too.
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Mike there is a pit bike ignition from Chinese ebayer JR MOTORSPORT PARTS DEPOT (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Performance-Racing-Stator-Rotor-Kit-Dirt-Bike-140-150cc-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem255f38cb5bQQitemZ160511347547QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories). I bought a load of Hydraulic clutches of him and his bits are cheap as and spot on. He has an ignition with a smaller rotor, which should fit in the cavity. There is also a DC/DC pit bike ignition but that is the same size(105mm rotor) with 12v output
Only be a week or so before the shiny new ones are here.They will be PC/hand held controller programmable I got the manufacturer to make intergrated silcone dust caps for the interface. Just pm me if you want more info
(http://i753.photobucket.com/albums/xx172/mike52_photo/1985/ign.jpg) ;D
12volt, same weight as husky flywheel, $55+postage. Only prob is getting the original centre out as it is hidden in behind the magnets which makes for a lot more work. Pity as everything else just falls into place.
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Finally got her going yesterday.
Very nice to ride and plenty of power.
Decided to go for a second ride and it did the big kickback and now I am having trouble walking. ;D
Ankle a bit big and sore. ;D
Will post a photo later. [Of BIKE not ankle.]
Using the chinese CDI and COIL with SEM stator and flywheel. Runs good. :)
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No surely not, a $50 chinger cdi, a thousand vikings spirits are looking for you right now. ;D
You probably have to much advance at the 'start' part of the advance curve.
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No surely not, a $50 chinger cdi, a thousand vikings spirits are looking for you right now. ;D
You probably have to much advance at the 'start' part of the advance curve.
$8 coil and $8.50 cdi Lozza. Too much advance for sure. Got me again, just as I was getting better. ;D
Almost finished just got to alter the bash plate a bit.
Have the stickers but I had so much trouble getting them I,me not game to put them on.
(http://i753.photobucket.com/albums/xx172/mike52_photo/1985/002.jpg)
(http://i753.photobucket.com/albums/xx172/mike52_photo/1985/003.jpg)
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That's a nice Hooskavarny!