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Title: Who was after an Ossa Phantom?
Post by: mx250 on January 09, 2008, 12:19:21 am
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Ossa-250-Phantom-VMX-Classic-Collectable_W0QQitemZ120207459186QQihZ002QQcategoryZ102690QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem  8) ??? 8)
Title: Re: Who was after an Ossa Phantom?
Post by: paul on January 09, 2008, 07:27:45 am
this bike did nt last long with new owner .make s you wonder if the problem with the gear box wasnt  woorse than origialy thought .and as explained in original ebay owner sale pitch /but not in this onwers pitch
Title: Re: Who was after an Ossa Phantom?
Post by: firko on January 09, 2008, 11:00:47 am
I've known the seller for a long time. He's notorious for building or buying bikes and quickly selling them using the "I'm broke" catch cry. He was the bloke selling the Monark Jawa replica a few weeks ago. Do your homework and be careful.
Title: Re: Who was after an Ossa Phantom?
Post by: paul on January 09, 2008, 11:14:23 am
i know i watch  ebay like a hawk and i usally ask the owners question about there machines  when this ossa was on last time i was think ing off  tradeding  it for a box off red goodies i had  in the shed so i know a bit about the bike  spoke to the other guy on the phone   but i changed my mind
Title: Re: Who was after an Ossa Phantom?
Post by: mx250 on January 09, 2008, 11:24:05 pm
and as explained in original ebay owner sale pitch /but not in this onwers pitch
Do you remember what it sold for last time?

I take it that the bike has known, but unstated, gearbox probs.
Title: Re: Who was after an Ossa Phantom?
Post by: Freakshow on January 09, 2008, 11:28:35 pm
Unless he changed the motor you cant blame this guy if it had a dogegy gearbox before he got it. 

Maybe he simply thinks there is a bit more coin to be had from it. 

What did it make last time ?
Title: Re: Who was after an Ossa Phantom?
Post by: paul on January 09, 2008, 11:29:08 pm
I THINK 6600  AND THE PREVIOUS OWNER  STATED IN ORIGINAL EBAY ADD  IF YOU ASK THIS OWNER THEN HE  WLL TELL YOU BUT YOU HAVE TO ASK FIRST     AND HE SAYS ITS A EASY FIX   :o


 HERE WHAT I GOT FROM A QUESTION I ASK ABOUT THE GEAR BOX
I am selling the ossa, only because, i have been chasing a yz 250 a and b for a lot of years, i was sponsored on one in 1973, l love the ossa it is a great bike and very light, i have spoken to a chap who owns an ossa, neil daymond ownes an ossa, my friend feels and i feels that there isn`t much wrong with it, the gears shilfs well has good spring tenion, and Alex in Amercia owns ossa and he has all the parts to fix that issue with gear spring selectors, they click up and down very well. but when it is in nutural area, thereis not much tenion, the engine sound very tight, it is a great bike, i would really like someone to own it and race it, we don`t see them around, when i get my yz it will be raced.
if you what it don`t hesitate it is a lovely bike.


Title: Re: Who was after an Ossa Phantom?
Post by: FDR on January 09, 2008, 11:35:02 pm
Not sure if bike is sold, been re listed at least twice by the same seller, I owned an Ossa Phantom
years ago and they are a real sweet bike but had gearbox problems and alloy
swingarm was weak.
Title: Re: Who was after an Ossa Phantom?
Post by: mx250 on January 10, 2008, 06:16:04 am
and alloy swingarm was weak.
Ahh, the price of light weight  ::)
Title: Re: Who was after an Ossa Phantom?
Post by: Maicojames on January 10, 2008, 10:10:52 am
This one would eliminate the gearbox problems-and looks even lighter......

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ossa-phantom-250-1974-1975_W0QQitemZ290196997644QQihZ019QQcategoryZ35618QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Was this a mid year upgrade? ;D ;D ;D

Actually, I have to get my Phantom together one of these years-my father left it to me when he died in 1992. It's just the roughest lest usuable parts I have ever encountered-but maybe in the next few years I'll have to shell out the $ and get it done. It's just so small and light and fragile-it is nice too look at , but you just know you can't ride it to hard-kind of like Paul's Maico Girls ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Who was after an Ossa Phantom?
Post by: mx250 on January 10, 2008, 10:34:51 am
This one would eliminate the gearbox problems-and looks even lighter......
Yeah, but where do ya fit da pedals?  ???  ;D
Title: Re: Who was after an Ossa Phantom?
Post by: firko on January 10, 2008, 12:02:05 pm
Let's not forget the 76 Phantom that my mate found hidden behind a shed a few months ago. Not to shabby for $100! (http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-8/1062154/Phantom.jpg)
Title: Re: Who was after an Ossa Phantom?
Post by: mx250 on January 10, 2008, 01:47:05 pm
Let's not forget the 76 Phantom that my mate found hidden behind a shed a few months ago. Not to shabby for $100! (http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-8/1062154/Phantom.jpg)
Don't tease us Firko; that is exceptionally exceptional. There's probably a story behind the story here.

Even the most dumbarse underinformed these days has an awareness of anything old, from a milk churn to an old bike. Indeed, most have an inflated expectation. Mostly if you show the slightest interest or knowledge and the price doubles. Your mate must  blessed with the 'art'.

I know of a Rickman 125 that went for 2 slabs of beer (to be used "by the kids as a paddock basher"  :-[). I wouldn't take it as typical.
Title: Re: Who was after an Ossa Phantom?
Post by: T250K on January 10, 2008, 02:45:10 pm
   Yep, I'm still chasing a Phantom but not in any rush and am looking for a good one, or now that it's been mentioned, one of Firko's $100 specials.  ;)  Great that you Guys keep digging them up.   I got another one of my wall hangers running over Xmas so now have two out of six that are rideable ;D  ;D  ;D.    Bit wary of this Phantom.  Is it for sure the same one that sold for around six Grand some weeks ago ?      Cheers    T250.
Title: Re: Who was after an Ossa Phantom?
Post by: firko on January 10, 2008, 02:55:50 pm
For those people interested in the OSSA Phantom listed on eBay, it might be a good idea to read Peter Drakefords 'Drakeford Files' column in VMX issue 22, page 26 before bidding.
Title: Re: Who was after an Ossa Phantom?
Post by: paul on January 10, 2008, 03:14:14 pm
yep for sure  i might have the original owner number too i will have a look
if you want his email  let me know 

he lives in shepperton so may be in the phone book 
Title: Re: Who was after an Ossa Phantom?
Post by: bigk on January 10, 2008, 04:44:33 pm
VMX #22, Drakeford Files: interesting article.
Title: Re: Who was after an Ossa Phantom?
Post by: paul on January 10, 2008, 05:27:59 pm
as luck would have it i havent got that .one any chance of scaning or some thing  and posting it here or  sending me  the story via email       ps is that ok aj   ;)
Title: Re: Who was after an Ossa Phantom?
Post by: Maico31 on January 10, 2008, 06:08:24 pm
I noticed that the seller of this Phantom became a forum member this week. I guess he'd be watching this thread?
Title: Re: Who was after an Ossa Phantom?
Post by: paul on January 10, 2008, 06:34:16 pm
mmmmmmmmmmmmm  what goes around comes around  ;)  will we put him  on the dogey brothers list
 signed the ossa  police                                                            

 have a nice day citizen 

 ??? ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Who was after an Ossa Phantom?
Post by: mx250 on January 10, 2008, 11:59:29 pm
Past in at $4550.00, reserve not meet :o ::)
Title: Re: Who was after an Ossa Phantom?
Post by: 090 on January 11, 2008, 12:06:43 am
Those reserves aren't a true indication of what someone is willing to pay though. The high bidder could have bid $6000 but will only go as high as last persons bid that they beat, unless they bid high enough to reach the reserve
Title: Re: Who was after an Ossa Phantom?
Post by: T250K on January 11, 2008, 12:42:24 am
 Am also missing VMX No. 22 and I notice it's not available as a back issue any more.  Anybody able to give us a rundown on Peter Drakeford's column on the Phantom please.   Cheers,   T250.
Title: Re: Who was after an Ossa Phantom?
Post by: mx250 on January 11, 2008, 06:35:26 am
Those reserves aren't a true indication of what someone is willing to pay though. The high bidder could have bid $6000 but will only go as high as last persons bid that they beat, unless they bid high enough to reach the reserve
And there I was thinking that an auction, and especially Ebay, was a competitive way of getting the best price ??? :-[
Title: Re: Who was after an Ossa Phantom?
Post by: Hoony on January 11, 2008, 07:17:35 am
Am also missing VMX No. 22 and I notice it's not available as a back issue any more.  Anybody able to give us a rundown on Peter Drakeford's column on the Phantom please.   Cheers,   T250.

must be an "In Joke" as it went over my head, draky talks about a mate he refers to as "Wheeler Dealer"  no mention of any Ossa'a though
Title: Re: Who was after an Ossa Phantom?
Post by: paul on January 11, 2008, 07:57:51 am
dont think its the bike  hoony than more the bloke
Title: Re: Who was after an Ossa Phantom?
Post by: AjayVMX on January 11, 2008, 08:46:44 am
FYI guys, VMX issue #22 is sold out here, but can still be bought (along with issue #23 for that matter) from Trials and MX News in the UK.  It will cost a bit more to get it posted to OZ, but it IS available... ;)

And T & MX News also have undamaged copies of #1,7 & 12 for those that are looking for them!

Just google Trials and Motocross News and you'll find their web site....