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Clubroom => General Discussion => Topic started by: Tony T on January 05, 2008, 08:30:41 am
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As usual for me lately, not VMX. ::)
But a very interesting news story anyway.
http://www.dakar.com/indexus.html (http://www.dakar.com/indexus.html)
Imagine the disppointment and the cost of this to all the competitors! Especially the factory teams, to turn up only to be told to go home the day before the start.
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Struth!!! What a cast iron bastard. It's a great thing to watch and follow.
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i cant believe it. i was so looking forward to it as i watch it every yr. its one of the few times you can see dirt bikes on TV. a big disapointment but not as much as the competitors would be
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::) As if David hasn't been tortured enough now he's somehow to blame for a race being cancelled.A case of organiser C.Y.A, the sky won't fall in ,there will be another one, just have to wait a year, forget the factory teams that money has all been allocated and budgeted, the solo privateer on a once in a lifetime expedition is the only victim.I hope they get some of their hard earned back.
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I know, move it to Australia.
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Yep, move it to Australia.
North to South, East to West, diagonally or whatever!
You want mongrel terrain? we have mongrel terrain and no f*ckin' Terrorists!
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That's the world we live in folks. The Dakar Rally is a unique event that couldn't be replicated in Australia. It'll be back.
The David Hicks crack was a bit low 414. He's done it much harder than he deserved thanks to George "We don't torture our prisoners" Bush and his snivelling little arse licker nancy boy Johnny Howard not going in to Guantanamo to help him like every other foreign government did for their citizens.
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yoU DO THE TIME FIRKO YOU PAY THE CRIME, if your man enought to leave the country to pick up a gun and play armies, then your man enough to rot in a hole in the desert somewhere, he is damn lucky he was captured, if i was serving over there i would have stuck a bullet in his head and any other person aiming at my head on the otherside, captured or not.
he is lucky he got another chance, all his victims are still lying on the side of the roads in shallow ditches, they didnt come home for news years.
Next time i stab someone i think ill use his excuse, alah told me to ? seems to work as a fairly lame excuse to murder these days, and those 12 lebo forkers who gang raped that poor aussie girl in sydney cause she was a 'white pig ?' You cant reward stupidity with further stupidity, you wipe that gene pool out.
I know where hicks is living to if you would like to sent him some fan mail, ill be happy to post it to him on a rock through the front window. ::)
And now your telling me no Dakar ? BArstards - im going postal in my local mall !
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Sure Hicks deserved a bit of time but what crime did he commit that makes him so evil? If you remember he wasn't, in the end, charged with anything. Every other western government lobbied to get their citizens out of Gitmo to serve their penance in their home countries. Not the spineless Howard government. They left an Aussie citizen to rot.
All David Hicks was guilty of is being an idiot and joining the Taliban. He was a poor misguided bugger looking for adventure. If he was any worse, the Yanks would still have him.
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Hear Hear Yamaboy,
Freaky if your looking for a terrorist to hang, you can't go past the biggest and baddest of them all
GEORGE BUSH and his OIL COMPANY cronies!!!
Nothing like destroying contry after country and stealing it's oil to ensure that the oil addicted nation that is the U.S.A. doesn't go without.
The barstard should be hung for war crimes.
To any fellow vintage racer in the U.S.A, this is directed at your administration, and not at your or your serviceman and woman.
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Hicks was indeed a bloody dill but that's all he's guilty of. Racist attitudes like that shown by freaky and 414 are a deadset worry. Let's deport all of the niggers, rag heads and dagos and we'll have no more crime! Get real . The Anita Cobby Killers and all of those weird serial killers Adelaide likes to give the world are all ridgy didge Aussies. Not a "lebo" amongst them. Keep your racist rants to yourself freak.
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Make no mistake Bush is an idiot, but so is Hicks, I also don't feel a thing for him as i would not support anyone that rubs shoulders with people who cold bloodedly kill innocent men woman and children in the name of their cause. Nuke the barstards and anyone one else for that matter who promotes terror...
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Hicks was indeed a bloody dill but that's all he's guilty of. Racist attitudes like that shown by freaky and 414 are a deadset worry. Let's deport all of the niggers, rag heads and dagos and we'll have no more crime! Get real . The Anita Cobby Killers and all of those weird serial killers Adelaide likes to give the world are all ridgy didge Aussies. Not a "lebo" amongst them. Keep your racist rants to yourself freak.
H.T.F do you get onto racism from my post ? you idiot.
Anyway I say it as it is, last i looked it was a free country.
I dont want Any amount of my hard earned taxes wasted on morons like him and others includinging all the wankers out there serials, rapist and dumb arses going off to another county to play war.
Poor little david........ahhhh F.T He took the risk he stays there, why should i be paying through the nose to bring him "home", he like others made there bed, so they can lie in it, mY point is im sick of in-deirectly paying for all this Politically correct mumbo jumbo by a bunch of do gooders and sissy's like you who think they can save the world by saving idiots from themeselves.
My family comes first and then my freinds, if you dont come into either of those catagories i dont care what you do so longs as 3 things happen,
1. i dont see you or have to deal with you.
2. PAy for you directly or indirectly and anything you do
3. have my life and freedom affected by you directly or indirectly.
FWIW - i DONT HATE ANYONE SO YOU CAN KEEP YOUR MISGUIDED AND SLANDEROUS REMARKS TO YOURSELF Dr Phil. Im guessing by your misguided rant that you still dont get it, that indeed Every one is racist or discrimatory against somthing or another, get a grip and a reality check if you cant understand that basic truth. I just happen to discriminate against morons no matter what nationallity they are, what nationality is MRs hicks ? woops so you cant use that im racist against him, and those Arseholes that gang raped that girl in Syd last year called themselve lebo brothers, thats how they identified there gang in court when they told on the record" she had it coming " although they had never seen her before they all packed raped her young body then bashed her and left her to die :'(
Humans like all creatures move in and out of the gene pool, and by that method and also by natural selection and predgudices angainst others forms of species they keep there form strong other wise all birds would look the same ? and this forum would only have one model bike.
Specifically regarding Hicks If you feel so inclinded to PAy for us to rescue idiots like him from himself and his stupidity, next time he or any other deside to' backpack' in another country and say take a photo with a bazooka for a postcARD, YOU CAN PAY THE MILLIONS TO RESCUE THEM although i like many, wont be rushing too, People can do what they like but i refuse to sign on the "bail them out", and as far as those other bastards and what they have been doing to young girls who where shorth skirts, i dont see how that is racist, or is that justa word people use when they really have no idea what they are talking about.
This debate is dead, learn somthing and move on. ::)
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??? ??? politics and motorbikes just dont mix . Freaky, I like you better when you write funny stories about bikes or tell me that the shocks are to dear ;D
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Aaahhh Politics and religion on a vmx website. Us vmx boys are a hot headed bunch aren,t we. Here,s my 2 bobs worth...Who said Howard never helped Hicks? He got him home didn,t he," 5 years later come election time".. Good ol" U S of A," the world police ,do what they want when they want. Who needs to charge some poor misguided fool ,lets just torture him for 5 years then send him home. What did that forked up red neck soon to be ex president say, " your either with us or against us"..What a forken concept !!!!!!
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??? ??? politics and motorbikes just dont mix . Freaky, I like you better when you write funny stories about bikes or tell me that the shocks are to dear ;D
All Dual shocks after 50 years are still to freckin expensive ! Now can i borrow some to test walter ?
No funny stories but here is a free one for you political voters out there - All trees should be moved 10 meters of the road, and stobie poles should not be on the exit of corners. Do those simple things and ill cut your road toll of genuine crash deaths in half ! I did a spot on 5AA talkback the other night and it went over a treat :OP
IF you want real results they should be using this catch cry "Add 10" not take off 5 ! ( as in 10m)
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??? ??? Dakar Rallye ::)
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When is your next talkback show Freaky? I dont want to miss that for anything. ;D ;D
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Lawsie has retired, maybe we could replace him with Freakie.
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Lawsie is no match :P
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THE FREAK SHOW MMMMM ONE THING I WILL AGREE TO IS CUT DOWN THE TREES
www.pftrees.com.au
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And stobie poles are unique to South Australia... ;)
I think I understand your reasoning Freaky; it was the sheer number of deaths and serious injuries which brought about the massive run off/kitty litter pits for the road racing circuits.
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Exuse my lack of educatian but what the forks a stobie pole?
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They're a South Aussie version of a telegraph pole.
They're a tall concrete structure framed on two sides by heavy grade steel; I understand they're named after their creator, a Hungarian fellow called.... Mr. Stobie.
Hey Crow Eaters, am I right?
My Father in Law (a Crowie) told me the history a few years ago.
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So should we eliminate just the stobie poles or go for the telegraph poles also?. ( not the walking ones)
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Exuse my lack of educatian but what the forks a stobie pole?
Stobie pole are steel and concrete inner poles that run the street and carry the power and telephone sinse the 30"S ? you hit them you die, i think you guys interstate use wooden power poles ?
we have them listed as a heritage icon ::) http://www.nationaltrustsa.org.au/heritage_icons_2002.htm#Stobie_Poles
Any way a lots of folks die on road deaths by power pole or tree impact as they are usually only 2-5 mtre off the kerbside. That the real point.
YSS youll be happy to know it was a guest appearance but i may be producing a show for Sean on Sundays 5AA 6-12pm, we are curently working out the details and have some "artistic " differances at the moment on content, there is only so many Old ladies ringing in with "ailments" i can handle. So you might be lucky and not have to listen to me or my content yet :O)
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Location, location, location - if you collect a pole on a bike it probably doesn't matter whether it's made of concrete, wood or steel.
I recently wrote off my ute when it aqua-planed into a steel light pole.
The pole sheared off at the bottom and I continued sliding for another thirty metres or so.
The Coppers explained these poles are meant to shear off upon impact and had it been a wooden pole I'd probably still be wrapped around its base.
Hey Freaky, apart from the talkback show is there an effort underway to actually press for your idea?
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NOt that i now of. I have been pushing it for years after i got pissed off at all those take 5 ads, adding 10 would make a much bigger impact than the speedlimit change, fact.
Pedestrian impact dont even rate when compared to death or injury due to pole or tree impacts less than 10 metres off the road. i looked up the stats !
Also have you ever noticed some idiot seems to like to place them on the outsid eof apex or corner run off ? very rarely are they on the inside of a bend ? maybe Firko or greame can run a editorial on it in the next Vmx and some Poly might steal the idea and run with it.
Death other than Head ons or lane impact are significantly lower in suburbs that have gone to underground cabling ? curious statistic that one ! Corellation or just Luck ?
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Yep we have wooden ones here,I had ago at one in a HJ head on,the pole was a clear winner,I managed to get it into the starter motor on the L/H side of a 6cyl;not good.
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Freaky, I can see you're passionate about this subject.
On the road deaths thing I think we're all aware of the massive increase in bike deaths these last twelve months.
Personally I think it's far too easy to get a bike licence.
I don't want people on ROAD BIKES who juuuust managed to pass their test.
They should piss it in!
They should be very confident - and not putting their feet down for the last twenty metres as they slow for the red light.
Or trail their feet upon take off until the motor screams for second gear please.
How many times do we observe riders who are really unsure of themselves in traffic?
I'd be interested to know how many of these unfortunate bike death victims have learnt to ride on the road?
The road is terribly unforgiving when you come off.
Maybe some serious compulsory hours of dirt riding would impart some handling knowledge to the beginners?
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Kick start is set up for kids / learners for Dirt licences and has cetain fundamantal motions etc, but when was the last time you saw road testers ask a L platers to pick a bike up ? slow ride properly in control, or better still teach road postioning ? like you say positive riding is important, confidant rider/machines work on roads, half arsed or shit scarred learners are just waiting to hit something, I see a lot of dare i say it, scooter riders hard left doing 30KM thinking they are doing the right thing, a left turn or a t bone waiting to happen.
Clear, obvious and deliberate riders seem to last longer on 2 wheels. I was told by a rider safe instructer when my girlfreind went for her licence 3 years ago, that he only passes based on 1 thing, they are confident they know what they are doing and can show him they can ride safley and with confidence, if you look like you trying to learn to ride a push bike for the first time he cuts them off the first week, even when they come back for the second weekend, they are marked. They want them, to go away and practice even if its in a tennis court so tyhey are paying attention to the road not forking around with the controls or the clucth.
Getting a learners is still a little to administration and watch a movie based i think you'll agree ?
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Ah, the scooters - two female friends come to mind!!!
When they told me they were considering scooters to get about I asked "why not a proper motorbike?"
NO, far too dangerous was their respective replies...and they listed several reasons why bikes were too dangerous.
I tried to explain that for all their reasoning it applied at least double for scooters!
I think scooters are a bit like the mobile phone - small, cute and you just have to have one; and fashionable.
Have you ever seen someone on a scooter actually suited correctly?
No, it's skirts and tops for the girls and something trendy for the boys.
Don't get me wrong, young women look hot wearing skirts on a scooter but one slide down the road will put an end to skirt wearing in public.
It's easy to get off track isn't it? I just remembered this thread is about the Dakar Rally...
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Just heard yesterday that the 2009 'Dakar' Rallye will be held through Argentina and Chile.
Disappointing not to be seeing those long African stages again, but should be interesting no less.
ASO are also holding a rallye in central Europe (Hungary and Romania) in April for all those competitors that missed out on this year's Dakar.
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Will it still be called " Paris Dakar Rally " ?