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Title: Overseas Rider
Post by: pirie593 on July 20, 2010, 07:42:21 pm: Does any-one remember the over-seas rider who was in Australia in 1976. He won or placed in the South Australian State Titles which were held at Snake Gully that year. I think he was from Ireland or Wales ??? ???

Did Landman win the SA Title (Unlimited) that year?
Title: Re: Overseas Rider
Post by: Stan S on July 20, 2010, 10:57:06 pm: Quote from: pirie593 on July 20, 2010, 07:42:21 pm
Does any-one remember the over-seas rider who was in Australia in 1976. He won or placed in the South Australian State Titles which were held at Snake Gully that year. I think he was from Ireland or Wales ??? ???

Did Landman win the SA Title (Unlimited) that year?

Gday pirie593,
I wonder if it was Ivan Miller as I think he was out around that time.
Not sure about the 76 unlimited title but as you would know better than me, Mike won the 75 Unlimited, won the 251 and over, 2nd in the 250 and won the 125. If i remember correctly you were 3rd in the 251 and over and 3rd in the 125 titles that year also.

Regards Stan.
Title: Re: Overseas Rider
Post by: SAABCOMBI on July 21, 2010, 08:29:35 am: I liked keith, did anybody else race at keith.
Title: Re: Overseas Rider
Post by: pirie593 on July 21, 2010, 10:09:17 am: Stan, I remember Miller at Snake Gully but it was earlier than 76. My results were 2nd in 250+ and 3rd in 125 but I thought that was in 76??? ??? ??? Never did keep any of the trophies or sashes.

#46, yes, I raced at Keith and remember it as being similar to Pirie in that it was relatively flat and set out in a sand/limestone quarry.
Title: Re: Overseas Rider
Post by: firko on July 21, 2010, 10:22:23 am: It couldbe Ivan Miller but he was a UK based Kiwi so that doesn't fit the Irish/Scottish description. I think that Englishman Neil Hudson toured Australia around that time. He would have been riding for Maico at that stage in his career. Maybe it was him?
Title: Re: Overseas Rider
Post by: Doggy Digger on July 21, 2010, 11:23:50 am: Miller was in Vic in 1975 - for State Titles, using MXb Yammies.

I think Hudson was here in 1977.

Maybe it was Billy Connolly ... and that's how he wound up marrying an Australian
Title: Re: Overseas Rider
Post by: Husky70 on July 21, 2010, 11:34:36 am: Point of order here - Pamela Stephenson was born in Auckland NZ. Right, carry on...
Title: Re: Overseas Rider
Post by: Stan S on July 21, 2010, 12:22:42 pm: Quote
Maybe it was Billy Connolly ... and that's how he wound up marrying an Australian

What riding a Harley trike :D :D :D
Title: Re: Overseas Rider
Post by: pirie593 on July 21, 2010, 10:50:41 pm: Firko, am sure it wasn't Ivan Miller because I remember racing with him previous to that. Wasn't Hudson either because I would have remembered him when I met him in '78 (or he would have mentioned being in South Oz). I think he only did the eastern sea board. I wonder if Dave Watson came out here?
Title: Re: Overseas Rider
Post by: pirie593 on July 22, 2010, 10:28:48 am: Stan, any chance that you have a program for the State Titles in those years (75/76). I think that SA introduced the Series concept for the first time in 77 with the top 6 getting entry to the Hang Ten Australian Championships ??? ???

How is it that you have such a good knowledge of the events in SA? Did you come over to ride often?

Does any-one remember an overseas rider named Morris?? (That sounds Welsh/Irish enough to me).
Title: Re: Overseas Rider
Post by: huskibul on July 22, 2010, 12:42:42 pm: Did Vic Allan ever race in oz? :-\
Title: Re: Overseas Rider
Post by: VMX247 on July 22, 2010, 12:45:46 pm: Quote from: Huskibul on July 22, 2010, 12:42:42 pm
Did Vic Allan ever race in oz? :-\

Yes pretty sure and he'll be here in WA again in August 27th-29th
oops better make an inquiry first :-X

http://www.vicallantraining.co.uk/vicallan.htm
Title: Re: Overseas Rider
Post by: Stan S on July 22, 2010, 12:49:33 pm: Quote from: pirie593 on July 22, 2010, 10:28:48 am
Stan, any chance that you have a program for the State Titles in those years (75/76). I think that SA introduced the Series concept for the first time in 77 with the top 6 getting entry to the Hang Ten Australian Championships ??? ???

How is it that you have such a good knowledge of the events in SA? Did you come over to ride often?

Does any-one remember an overseas rider named Morris?? (That sounds Welsh/Irish enough to me).

I will have a look for a program tomorrow. I did come over to race in SA a bit in 75/76/77.
Can't remember anyone named Morris though.

Regards Stan.
Title: Re: Overseas Rider
Post by: matcho mick on July 22, 2010, 01:00:22 pm: didn't Vic ride a triple triumph at the 2000 bathurst historic racing festival,seem to remember him wandering around the pits in leathers, :P
Title: Re: Overseas Rider
Post by: Stan S on July 22, 2010, 01:04:09 pm: Quote from: Huskibul on July 22, 2010, 12:42:42 pm
Did Vic Allan ever race in oz? :-\

Yes Vic Allan raced here in 1975 at Wallan twice I think, the Aussie Titles in Tasmania and also Amaroo Park. I'm not sure where else. He had some great battles with Gaston Rahier while he was here. He borrowed my slow action throttle off my mk 8 360 in Tasmainia because he didn't like the Quick Action one that had been fitted to his bike. Come to think of it I never saw it again.

Regards Stan.
Title: Re: Overseas Rider
Post by: huskibul on July 22, 2010, 01:10:49 pm: Sounds like you will have to duck over to WA and corner him in the pits stan,might be worth your while when you add on all the interest :D
Title: Re: Overseas Rider
Post by: VMX247 on July 22, 2010, 01:15:54 pm: Quote from: Huskibul on July 22, 2010, 01:10:49 pm
Sounds like you will have to duck over to WA and corner him in the pits stan,might be worth your while when you add on all the interest :D

Better still come on over and ride in the legends race -have to join as a club member though ;D
cheers A
Title: Re: Overseas Rider
Post by: Stan S on August 02, 2010, 10:31:54 pm: Quote from: pirie593 on July 22, 2010, 10:28:48 am
Stan, any chance that you have a program for the State Titles in those years (75/76). I think that SA introduced the Series concept for the first time in 77 with the top 6 getting entry to the Hang Ten Australian Championships ??? ???

How is it that you have such a good knowledge of the events in SA? Did you come over to ride often?

Does any-one remember an overseas rider named Morris?? (That sounds Welsh/Irish enough to me).

Hi Chris, I wasn't able to find either programs for 75 or 76 but I did find this clipping from the 75 South Aussie titles.
Stan.
(http://i991.photobucket.com/albums/af39/gf079/Old%20pictures/75SAChampionships.jpg)
(http://i991.photobucket.com/albums/af39/gf079/Old%20pictures/75SAChampionships2001.jpg)
(http://i991.photobucket.com/albums/af39/gf079/Old%20pictures/Copyof75SAChampionships2001.jpg)
Title: Re: Overseas Rider
Post by: EML on August 03, 2010, 11:14:48 am: I remember the '76 Aust titles were held at ACUSA park and sponsored by Hang Ten. we had to wear bibs with Hang Ten on them and I still have mine (and Verns).
Title: Re: Overseas Rider
Post by: pirie593 on August 04, 2010, 06:42:35 pm: Stan, many thanks. So, it was '75. And thanks for solving the over-seas riddle! I thought it was an Irish rider.

Now, what happened in '76???? I seem to have lost a year? (And my drinking days were somewhat behind me and a long way in front of me back then ???).

The first time I sat on a Yamaha MX bike was 1978, so some-one was really taking notice ::).

EML, the Oz titles at ACUSA Park were in 1977.
Title: Re: Overseas Rider
Post by: jerry on August 04, 2010, 09:36:57 pm: In the latest issue of Classic Dirt Bike Vic Allen says some very complementary things about the Pursang that Bert Flood prepared for him when he raced here. Saw him at Wallan. He was quick and smooth. Very professional. Jerry
Title: Re: Overseas Rider
Post by: jerry on August 04, 2010, 09:37:34 pm: Was it Malcom Dearne? Jerry
Title: Re: Overseas Rider
Post by: jerry on August 04, 2010, 09:38:44 pm: Hey Stan Vic Allen is coming over for the WAVMX meeting. Maybe you can get your throttle back. Jerry
Title: Re: Overseas Rider
Post by: firko on August 04, 2010, 10:54:06 pm: Des Morris from Ireland.....whatever became?
Title: Re: Overseas Rider
Post by: EML on August 05, 2010, 08:32:58 am: Des Morris played League for Aust Firko, not bad at it if it means anything.
BTW those All Blacks are playing well-getting set for another choke next year I guess. ;)
Title: Re: Overseas Rider
Post by: firko on August 05, 2010, 09:45:27 am: Quote
Des Morris played League for Aust Firko]
Except he was a Queenslander. ::)
Title: Re: Overseas Rider
Post by: EML on August 05, 2010, 02:31:08 pm: I hoped you would remember that as I'm sure he had to play for NSW back before State of Origin when Qld took full control of the box heads game.
Title: Re: Overseas Rider
Post by: firko on August 05, 2010, 03:02:12 pm: Didn't know about his early career as an Irish motocrosser though. ;D
Title: Re: Overseas Rider
Post by: VMX247 on August 16, 2010, 06:54:07 pm: Quote from: jerry on August 04, 2010, 09:36:57 pm
He was quick and smooth. Very professional.

and this hasn't changed,the overseas riders are like watching old classic mx footage ,using every smooth line of the track available,beautiful and fluid to watch. :-*
Alison
Title: Re: Overseas Rider
Post by: EML on August 17, 2010, 08:45:20 am: It's actually because they are so quick that they are smooth not the other way around. Try telling your brain that when you race :D :D