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Title: 76/78 Mountain Man or Mr Motocross??? (Plus one Tivoli ring in)
Post by: IT400C on May 14, 2010, 02:02:25 pm
I took these photos when I was a 12-14 year old, except for the last on which I think is Dad's...  ;)

(http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo184/IT400C/old%20photos/78MountainMan5.jpg)
Unknown riders at Echo Valley

(http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo184/IT400C/old%20photos/78MountainMan4.jpg)
Unknown Rider going over the top at Echo Valley

(http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo184/IT400C/old%20photos/78MountainMan2.jpg)
Echo Valley

(http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo184/IT400C/old%20photos/78MountainMan3.jpg)
Gally at Echo Valley

(http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo184/IT400C/old%20photos/78MountainMan.jpg)
Gall and Gunter, where else but Echo Valley....   ::)

(http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo184/IT400C/old%20photos/GallTivoli.jpg)
And of course,  classic Gally at Tivoli....  (Gally's autographed the back of this one for me..)
Title: Re: 76/78 Mountain Man or Mr Motocross??? (Plus one Tivoli ring in)
Post by: Doggy Digger on May 14, 2010, 02:34:16 pm
What the F**k!?

Even more extraordinary pix mate.   So clear, close and well framed.   Gold again!   Thanks for posting.   
Title: Re: 76/78 Mountain Man or Mr Motocross??? (Plus one Tivoli ring in)
Post by: ba-02-xr on May 14, 2010, 03:37:49 pm
Isnt it strange that back in those days everyone wore some sort of upper body protection. Every rider in those pics are. Today very few do. I supose it dosn't look "cool".
Title: Re: 76/78 Mountain Man or Mr Motocross??? (Plus one Tivoli ring in)
Post by: All Things 414 on May 14, 2010, 04:21:23 pm
Isnt it strange that back in those days everyone wore some sort of upper body protection. Every rider in those pics are. Today very few do. I supose it dosn't look "cool".

I suppose that has a bit to do with it however the shoulder/arm back stuff under a jersey is pretty restrictive. I stopped wearing heaps of the stuff years ago (however I do have a neck brace on) and found it felt better to ride without feeling like a mutant ninja turtle..... :)
Title: Re: 76/78 Mountain Man or Mr Motocross??? (Plus one Tivoli ring in)
Post by: jimg1au on May 14, 2010, 04:58:48 pm
i wouldnt ride with out my full body kit it save my life once(that 1 is in the bin as the tree root i hit smashed it up) and heck brace
jim
Title: Re: 76/78 Mountain Man or Mr Motocross??? (Plus one Tivoli ring in)
Post by: JohnnyO on May 14, 2010, 05:53:59 pm
Great shots.. you should have been a photographer.
The 2nd pic is the late Geoff Worrell. I'm actually heading to Echo Valley this weekend for the 4th round of the Aussie MX Nationals.
Title: Re: 76/78 Mountain Man or Mr Motocross??? (Plus one Tivoli ring in)
Post by: Hoony on May 14, 2010, 07:59:43 pm
Great shots.. you should have been a photographer.
The 2nd pic is the late Geoff Worrell. I'm actually heading to Echo Valley this weekend for the 4th round of the Aussie MX Nationals.

Competing or spectating Johnny O?
Title: Re: 76/78 Mountain Man or Mr Motocross??? (Plus one Tivoli ring in)
Post by: JohnnyO on May 14, 2010, 08:50:23 pm
Just spectating Hoony, no Vets at these races.
Title: Re: 76/78 Mountain Man or Mr Motocross??? (Plus one Tivoli ring in)
Post by: ba-02-xr on May 18, 2010, 08:27:02 am
I was there as well Johnnyo. Great day.
Title: Re: 76/78 Mountain Man or Mr Motocross??? (Plus one Tivoli ring in)
Post by: DR on May 18, 2010, 08:56:35 am
I notice Gunters bike in the 2nd pic 'appears' to have the fabled black optional alloy arm with floating brake and Fox shox...mmmm..all back in 1976  ::) :P great pics Tony..brilliant actually! 8)
Title: Re: 76/78 Mountain Man or Mr Motocross??? (Plus one Tivoli ring in)
Post by: IT400C on May 18, 2010, 01:10:09 pm
I notice Gunters bike in the 2nd pic 'appears' to have the fabled black optional alloy arm with floating brake and Fox shox...mmmm..all back in 1976  ::) :P great pics Tony..brilliant actually! 8)

Doc, here's a crop of the original (un-scaled) scanned image..  It's a lot clearer..   ;D 
(http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo184/IT400C/old%20photos/Gunterblowup.jpg)
If you want, I can bring the photo back in to work and try for a better quality scan too...  Was just using simple settings for these images (the network doesn't like when the scans are more that 20mb each)   ::)
Title: Re: 76/78 Mountain Man or Mr Motocross??? (Plus one Tivoli ring in)
Post by: IT400C on May 18, 2010, 01:13:15 pm
I notice Gunters bike in the 2nd pic 'appears' to have the fabled black optional alloy arm with floating brake and Fox shox...mmmm..all back in 1976  ::) :P

what's the story with this anyway?? Am I missing something? ???
Title: Re: 76/78 Mountain Man or Mr Motocross??? (Plus one Tivoli ring in)
Post by: JohnnyO on May 18, 2010, 01:14:14 pm
I notice Gunters bike in the 2nd pic 'appears' to have the fabled black optional alloy arm with floating brake and Fox shox...mmmm..all back in 1976  ::) :P great pics Tony..brilliant actually! 8)
I saw that doc and was wondering if anyone would comment about it.
Title: Re: 76/78 Mountain Man or Mr Motocross??? (Plus one Tivoli ring in)
Post by: IT400C on May 18, 2010, 01:39:12 pm
Actually, if Gunter's riding as "N1", it could have been the Queensland MX Championships - the reigning QLD Champ would have had "1", and Gunter'd be riding as the New South Wales number "1".

You guys should take the dates of these photo's with a pinch of salt - I'm just working from my memory of things 34 years ago..

Shouldn't be too hard for someone with more intimate knowledge of the bikes of that era to identify the models though..
Title: Re: 76/78 Mountain Man or Mr Motocross??? (Plus one Tivoli ring in)
Post by: DR on May 18, 2010, 02:05:25 pm
I was just shit stirring Tony :D The little alloy arms on the pre'78 RM's were always rumored to be something that may or may not have existed but as shown it clearly did exist ;) The alloy arms from the '78 C models are identical to these earlier optional arms give or take some black paint and a small lug on the underside for the brake stay arm which most gun riders flicked in favor of a frame mounted lug as per Tony Gunters' bike in that photo. My argument was the alloy arms from the '78 model should be allowed in pre'78 as the C model arms were clearly a flow on part (albeit, an optional part) from the A and B models. Most pics appear to me be from '77 and '78. RM B's and C's and YZ D's and E's ;)

Johnny, I bet you knew I'd comment sooner or later..just can't help myself can I  ::) :D
Title: Re: 76/78 Mountain Man or Mr Motocross??? (Plus one Tivoli ring in)
Post by: IT400C on May 18, 2010, 02:15:28 pm
hahaha - makes sense now.   ;)

Yeah, looking at the Yamaha's I figured 77/78 after I posted, but on the back of some is written that taken when I was 12 (1976)...
Title: Re: 76/78 Mountain Man or Mr Motocross??? (Plus one Tivoli ring in)
Post by: IT400C on May 18, 2010, 02:18:27 pm
provinence on that photo should be easy - what year was the QLD MX Champs held at Echo Valley?  Was Gunter entered as Number "N1"?  Instant answer....   ;)
Title: Re: 76/78 Mountain Man or Mr Motocross??? (Plus one Tivoli ring in)
Post by: JohnnyO on May 18, 2010, 03:34:36 pm
Those shots at Echo Valley are from Mountain Man '77.
The shot of Gally and Gunter together is Mr MX Tivoli '78.
Title: Re: 76/78 Mountain Man or Mr Motocross??? (Plus one Tivoli ring in)
Post by: IT400C on May 18, 2010, 03:49:28 pm
Cool, knew someone'd know...   ;D

I suppose Gunter would have been running N1 in Mountain Man too?  ACU QLD event...  ::)

Thought the track looked a bit rocky in that one of Gall and Gunter..   ;)  Just don't remember taking it at Tivoli.  Where on the track would it have been though?  My memories of the track layout are confused by practises and racing there in the '90's and early '00's....  with the trees in the background looks like it must be the back straight area..  Did they run in the opposite direction then to the later years?
Title: Re: 76/78 Mountain Man or Mr Motocross??? (Plus one Tivoli ring in)
Post by: JohnnyO on May 18, 2010, 03:52:53 pm
That looks like it's over the quarry jump on the back straight going the opposite direction it goes now.
Title: Re: 76/78 Mountain Man or Mr Motocross??? (Plus one Tivoli ring in)
Post by: JohnnyO on May 18, 2010, 03:54:43 pm
Doc i'm 100% behind you on the swingarm issue. I KNOW they used the alloy optional arm in '77, i was there.
Title: Re: 76/78 Mountain Man or Mr Motocross??? (Plus one Tivoli ring in)
Post by: EML on May 18, 2010, 04:12:03 pm
IT , we ran the Qld titles on te sidecar in 1986 and that was the first ''uphill'' start, before that it went downhill and counter clockwise over the quarry which is now a stepup table top thing heading south.
The first time over the quarry on the Norton Wasp with Vern Grayson was an eye opener for an 18yr old lad I can tell you. I wasn't allowed to close my eyes though. :o 
Title: Re: 76/78 Mountain Man or Mr Motocross??? (Plus one Tivoli ring in)
Post by: IT400C on May 18, 2010, 04:23:50 pm
haha - I bet!  Dad did a lap of tivoli in the chair once (not sure on who's bike) - he reckons by the end of 1 lap he just about fell out - couldn't hang on anymore!
Title: Re: 76/78 Mountain Man or Mr Motocross??? (Plus one Tivoli ring in)
Post by: DR on May 18, 2010, 04:27:28 pm
Posted by: JohnnyO
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Doc i'm 100% behind you on the swingarm issue. I KNOW they used the alloy optional arm in '77, i was there.

Thanks Johnny, I believe we have taken this issue beyond any sort of doubt now..the proof is in the puddin' ;D whatever the hell that means ::)