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Marque Remarks => Spaniards (Bultaco, Ossa, Montesa etc) => Topic started by: All Things 414 on April 29, 2010, 06:34:51 pm

Title: THE 414
Post by: All Things 414 on April 29, 2010, 06:34:51 pm: This is the bike that started it all off for me (with the 414's). The 1979 VE 414.
Not a very 'attractive' bike. It's got a face that only a mother could love. But I reckon' they're the toughest looking motocrosser of all time (including your fancy works bikes).
If you were racing in Western Victoria in 1979 and Peter Christian rolled up to the line beside you on one of these I think you'd have just pooed your pants, packed up and gone home.

Anyway here's my new addition. It looks pretty rough but I think it's done bugger-all work.
Heaps of compression and the motor spins over freely like the other low hour VF that I have. The bloody thing even started when I got it home! ;D

(http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/All_things_414/DSCN1255.jpg)
(http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/All_things_414/DSCN1264.jpg)

Of course some 'knob' has welded a different gear lever to the shaft and put a bolt into the carb slide adjuster... ???
(http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/All_things_414/DSCN1258.jpg)
Pipe doesn't have a knick in it. Lots of surface rust and mufflers ok as well (even has the packing in it).
(http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/All_things_414/DSCN1257.jpg)
(http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/All_things_414/DSCN1259.jpg)
Levers and covers are all OEM
(http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/All_things_414/DSCN1262.jpg)
Has all the original cables with the little lube points in them. Even the throttle cable which I've never seen. Has the original front plate.
(http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/All_things_414/DSCN1256.jpg)

I reckon' it's gunna turn out just GROUSE!

Special thanks to "Pauls Bike Brokerage Service" for securing the vehicle. ;)

The last pic is just for Montynut
My 'vg' ;)
(http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/All_things_414/DSCN1265.jpg)
Title: Re: THE 414
Post by: Billet YZ on April 29, 2010, 06:46:28 pm: Looks like it will come up real good and nice to see all the good bits still there, i feel sorry for that Yamaha in your shed. Peter.
Title: Re: THE 414
Post by: All Things 414 on April 29, 2010, 06:48:35 pm: Quote from: Billet YZ on April 29, 2010, 06:46:28 pm
i feel sorry for that Yamaha in your shed. Peter.

I have to keep them in seperate sheds or else they 'blue' all night and the neighbors complain..... :-\
Title: Re: THE 414
Post by: Billet YZ on April 29, 2010, 06:51:06 pm: By the way how did the minister for no fun and finance handle another bike to the shed.??
Title: Re: THE 414
Post by: Billet YZ on April 29, 2010, 06:52:47 pm: Quote from: paul on April 29, 2010, 06:50:40 pm
ive found another ;)

You should just have Ross`s credit card number, be much easier that way you can just get them dropped straight to his place. :D
Title: Re: THE 414
Post by: All Things 414 on April 29, 2010, 06:54:38 pm: Quote from: Billet YZ on April 29, 2010, 06:51:06 pm
By the way how did the minister for no fun and finance handle another bike to the shed.??

Ummmmm. She's away tonight. She.....Ummmm.... doesn't really know about it yet. :-[ :-[
Title: Re: THE 414
Post by: Billet YZ on April 29, 2010, 07:02:22 pm: Quote from: All Things 414 on April 29, 2010, 06:54:38 pm
Quote from: Billet YZ on April 29, 2010, 06:51:06 pm
By the way how did the minister for no fun and finance handle another bike to the shed.??

Ummmmm. She's away tonight. She.....Ummmm.... doesn't really know about it yet. :-[ :-[

Give the bike to her for mothers day, tell her it`s your way of getting her involved.
Title: Re: THE 414
Post by: caps 999 on April 29, 2010, 07:12:58 pm: haha ross has anyone ever told you your a sick man
Title: Re: THE 414
Post by: Freakshow on April 29, 2010, 07:25:50 pm: it always blow's me that after 74 ( heck till 79 by the look of it) they still had those poxy looking motors that look like the came off a russian potato grader , dinky little kick stater AND a pre 70 barell and head well what can i say, Montesa was in a time matrix glitch for sure dude..... :D
Title: Re: THE 414
Post by: paul on April 29, 2010, 07:32:26 pm: Quote from: Billet YZ on April 29, 2010, 06:52:47 pm
Quote from: paul on April 29, 2010, 06:50:40 pm
ive found another ;)

You should just have Ross`s credit card number, be much easier that way you can just get them dropped straight to his place. :D
peter this one has got aspect off a 007 movie ,now ive got 2 for him now (for zilce) and do you thing i can get a shity old bing carb body fo me trouble ,not likely dont forget the cheap transprt and the vr mr montesa and were me seat you sent to darwin
Title: Re: THE 414
Post by: Billet YZ on April 29, 2010, 07:47:02 pm: Quote from: paul on April 29, 2010, 07:32:26 pm
Quote from: Billet YZ on April 29, 2010, 06:52:47 pm
Quote from: paul on April 29, 2010, 06:50:40 pm
ive found another ;)

You should just have Ross`s credit card number, be much easier that way you can just get them dropped straight to his place. :D
peter this one has got aspect off a 007 movie ,now ive got 2 for him now (for zilce) and do you thing i can get a shity old bing carb body fo me trouble ,not likely dont forget the cheap transprt and the vr mr montesa and were me seat you sent to darwin

Oh well Paul, looks like the next Monty you find just didn`t have a carby. Ha Ha. :)
Title: Re: THE 414
Post by: 414VG on April 30, 2010, 06:08:43 pm: Nice bike Ross, i notice the pipe is not the same as the 414 vf/vg's more like the h6/7 360's ??

cheers Sandy
Title: Re: THE 414
Post by: cappra on April 30, 2010, 06:49:09 pm: I'm here for ya Ross, let the games begin! ;D
Need to buy me a new Plasma......
Title: Re: THE 414
Post by: mainline on April 30, 2010, 06:56:18 pm: are those levers bent identically on purpose ?

Is this the current project or in a queue?
Title: Re: THE 414
Post by: All Things 414 on April 30, 2010, 07:22:28 pm: Quote from: mainline on April 30, 2010, 06:56:18 pm
are those levers bent identically on purpose ?

Is this the current project or in a queue?

That's the bend of the levers alright. I can honestly say that these bikes (Monties) just don't seem to work properly with any other type of lever!

It is the current project. Should be pretty straight-forward as I have most of the bits here that need to be replaced. Strip, sand-blast, paint, re-assemble and Bob's your Aunty's Milk Man. ;)
Title: Re: THE 414
Post by: mainline on May 01, 2010, 02:05:49 pm: you learn something every day. Lucky I'm not doing it up, I'd have replaced the levers thinking they were bent ;D
Title: Re: THE 414
Post by: All Things 414 on June 01, 2010, 08:12:45 am: After much deliberation I've started on the VE.
Originally it was going to be a concorse resto but after serious deliberation with fellow VMXers it was decided to model the bike on this scenerio.
The year is about 1981 and the poor owner of this bike has campainged it for the last two years. It's still running like a train but looking a little "tired".
Due to a lack of funds and the latest model 414 being little changed from this model, he's decided to stick with it. He strips the bike, cleans everything that can be cleaned, repairs whatever is repairable and only buys new when it's in the interest of reliability. It wont have the weird little front plate on it or any of the other stuff that would have been ripped off it after it arrived home from the dealer.

The biggest reason for going down this path is that under all the dirt and shit on this bike it turned out to be in really good condition and done little work. If I'd done a concorse resto it would have ended up propped up in a corner never to be ridden and I sorely want to ride this bike. So here we go...... :)
Title: Re: THE 414
Post by: All Things 414 on June 01, 2010, 08:21:03 am: (http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/All_things_414/DSCN1283.jpg)

I pulled the top end off it and discovered it was on its original piston. Everything looked really good as there was little wear.
After taking the clutch cover off I discovered that the locking tab on the clutch was original and had never been removed. So I stopped there. I really couldn't see the point in splitting the casings just to have a look. So it was on with the new (second hand) shift shaft (thanks Montynut), set the timing, blast the head and barrel and paint them. Pop it all back together with some new rings and that's the motor sorted.
Even the lead from the ignition is pristine with no cracks or breaks. Everything under the casings looked like new. :)
Title: Re: THE 414
Post by: All Things 414 on June 01, 2010, 02:03:52 pm: (http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/All_things_414/DSCN1286.jpg)

Frame is in really good condition. The only bit of rust was on the lower frame tubes and a bit of surface stuff where sidecovers etc had been rubbing. So acting out the part of our budget '81 racer I cleaned up these areas and touched them up. Swingarm is a little sadder so it's getting blasted, then painted.
Title: Re: THE 414
Post by: All Things 414 on June 01, 2010, 02:09:35 pm: (http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/All_things_414/DSCN1285.jpg)

It had the original seat on it however it was torn down the right hand side of the lower base area. Other than that it was in good knick and I really wanted to keep it as the repo covers (appart from being a lot thinner) dont have that line that runs a couple of inches up from the bottom. My local upholsterer ran a piece of thick material all the way around the bottom for me for 20 bucks. It matches up on the other side and made it a lot easier to fasten the cover down. Grouse!
Title: Re: THE 414
Post by: All Things 414 on June 01, 2010, 02:21:25 pm: (http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/All_things_414/DSCN1284.jpg)
Nearly anyone who's owned a post '78 cappra will tell you of the woes of the fuel tank leaking from the taps. They are held onto the tank by two screws that purchase onto some nuts moulded into the plastic. When people get heavy handed with them or the taps take a belting, they distort the seal and they leak like buggery! Every plastic tanked cappra I've owned has suffered from this problem. People pour silastic into them, put extra gaskets and all types of crap in them hoping they'll seal or completely seal the tap off and run just the one on the other side! :o

No. You have to pull out the nuts from the plastic, throw them to the shit house and drill out where they used to sit. Then make up a plate to go on the inside of the tank that the taps can screw into. Then take a couple of days off work because that's how long you'll be fiddling around trying to get the tap and the plate to match up however once you get it screwed up, they'll never leak again. ;)

* I did have a spare tank for this bike but in keeping with the theme I fixed this one up instead of taking the easy way out.

Just waiting on the swingarm and pipe to come back from the blasters and then a little more..... :)
Title: Re: THE 414
Post by: Freakshow on June 01, 2010, 02:35:54 pm: Quote from: All Things 414 on June 01, 2010, 02:03:52 pm
(http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/All_things_414/DSCN1286.jpg)

Hey 414, how cheap are those stands ???? seen em at super crappy and for $50 i grabbed some, ment i could get some of me bikes of those milk crates they have been living on for a few years.

sweet price huh and actually work as well as the more expensive ones............. i like .
Title: Re: THE 414
Post by: All Things 414 on June 01, 2010, 02:41:59 pm: Yeah they're pretty grouse. $55 I paid for mine. Better than the $100+ ones I've been buying from my local shop over the years..... :(
Title: Re: THE 414
Post by: Hoony on June 01, 2010, 02:57:19 pm: Quote from: All Things 414 on June 01, 2010, 02:21:25 pm
....... throw them to the shit house and drill out where they used to sit. Then make up a plate to go on the inside of the tank that the taps can screw into. Then take a couple of days off work because that's how long you'll be fiddling around trying to get the tap and the plate to match up however once you get it screwed up.

:D
Title: Re: THE 414
Post by: mx250 on June 02, 2010, 08:27:09 am: I can see your conundrum Ross. That frame looks incredibly good and unexpectedly so looking at the Ebay pixies. I think a race bike with some period patina is a good choice.

You'll be able to have your own race team shortly. Can ya see it; three 414's sharing the holeshot, one pivot turning on the tight inside, one flattracking the middle line and one berm shotting the out side 8) ;D.
Title: Re: THE 414
Post by: montynut on June 02, 2010, 05:37:01 pm: Still think it needs a small oval number plate with the little bump in the corner for the Monty sticker ;D beats those ones that need 20HP just to push through the air ::) and you can see from space ::)

Sounds like you have heaps of spare fuel tanks ;)
Title: Re: THE 414
Post by: All Things 414 on July 04, 2010, 11:32:55 am: (http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/All_things_414/DSCN1296.jpg)

(http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/All_things_414/DSCN1297.jpg)

Slowly, slowly...... :)
Title: Re: THE 414
Post by: HL400 on July 04, 2010, 04:12:22 pm: Bloddy hell Ross looks like it will be ready next week end if you get your finger out. HL
Title: Re: THE 414
Post by: All Things 414 on July 04, 2010, 04:40:32 pm: Just waiting on a couple of 'special' bits to arrive and it'll be out there Henry. ;)
As in keeping with the 'theme' the guards are some shitty old ones that i had to clean up as are the sidecovers. More deliberating about the rear guard as it had holes in it where someone had ran it with a tail-light (not this bike). So the holes were filled, the cracks welded and all-in-all they look pretty good (and cost me bugger all). I'm sure I'll be rewarded for all that hard work by sending it all cart-wheeling down the track and breaking every bit of plastic ::).
Title: Re: THE 414
Post by: Stan S on July 04, 2010, 07:30:17 pm: Quote from: All Things 414 on July 04, 2010, 04:40:32 pm
Just waiting on a couple of 'special' bits to arrive and it'll be out there Henry. ;)
As in keeping with the 'theme' the guards are some shitty old ones that i had to clean up as are the sidecovers. More deliberating about the rear guard as it had holes in it where someone had ran it with a tail-light (not this bike). So the holes were filled, the cracks welded and all-in-all they look pretty good (and cost me bugger all). I'm sure I'll be rewarded for all that hard work by sending it all cart-wheeling down the track and breaking every bit of plastic ::).

Hey Ross, these sidecovers looked ok on the 79 414 also ;D ;D ;D

(http://i991.photobucket.com/albums/af39/gf079/Old%20pictures/Mynew414atHallsGap1979.jpg)
Title: Re: THE 414
Post by: Hoony on July 04, 2010, 07:54:24 pm: i've looked long and hard but buggered if i can find the dead rat, it must be anodised ?
Title: Re: THE 414
Post by: E74 on July 04, 2010, 08:05:28 pm: Looks awsome exept for the green in the tank, should that be green?, looks like they were originaly gold?
Title: Re: THE 414
Post by: Slakewell on July 04, 2010, 08:37:22 pm: I have a huge soft spots for Monty's and have owned a few the 69 Capra was a handsome bike the VR 250 was a head turner the little VE 125 one of the prettiest bikes ever made but the 414 is just ugly.
Title: Re: THE 414
Post by: cappra on July 04, 2010, 09:39:28 pm: Unfortunatly, the olive green is the oem colour for the side panels.
Title: Re: THE 414
Post by: SAABCOMBI on July 04, 2010, 10:24:32 pm: The 67 cappra GP 250 was a beautiful looking and it handled very well. and my very first model monty was the gray tank 125, love that bike.
Title: Re: THE 414
Post by: All Things 414 on July 05, 2010, 06:55:06 am: Yeah you're right. The green in the tank is wrong and when I get the patience to scrape it out one night it's going.

I agree they're ugly. Head like a smashed pastie. But you can't mistake them for anything else!

Let me know when Mr 66 is down here again Stan. I'd like to get a good pic of you two and this bike. A bit of Western Vic Mont history..... ;)

(http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/All_things_414/FloodChristian414s.jpg)

Pic courtesy Stan S
Title: Re: THE 414
Post by: All Things 414 on July 29, 2010, 07:50:11 pm: Nearly there!

(http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/All_things_414/DSCN1321.jpg)

I managed to pick up some Talon sprockets that need a teeny bit of work to make fit at a very good price so it's getting a decent chain as well.
I ended up replacing the spokes but kept the original rims. It was hard not to powdercoat the hubs whilst they were apart but I figured it'd look a little strange with restored hubs on the bike so I left them as they were. It was an even bigger call not to lace up an 18" wheel however I'm glad i stuck with the 17". It took a bit of shopping around but I found a tyre for it that I'm happy with and I wouldn't wanna be behind it when it lights up! :D

(http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/All_things_414/DSCN1326.jpg)

Oh yeah. I bung a set of Ohlins on as well. ;)
(http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/All_things_414/DSCN1323.jpg)

All the 'good stuff' for the controls....
(http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/All_things_414/DSCN1324.jpg)

And I got rid of that ridiculous little front plate in favour of something that the ACU would have been proud of at the time.
(http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/All_things_414/DSCN1322.jpg)
Title: Re: THE 414
Post by: All Things 414 on July 29, 2010, 07:52:07 pm: All new rubber bits and finally a proper airboot from the box to the carb (for all three of them). :)

(http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/All_things_414/DSCN1325.jpg)

Just gotta finish the pipe (which turned into a major pain in the butt), get the right spacers for the shocks and..............that should be about it! :)
Title: Re: THE 414
Post by: KB171 on July 29, 2010, 08:09:38 pm: Lookin good Ross, whens the first neck ringin session ??
Title: Re: THE 414
Post by: All Things 414 on July 29, 2010, 08:16:38 pm: Hopefully in a coupla weeks KB. :P
Title: Re: THE 414
Post by: montynut on July 29, 2010, 08:27:10 pm: Looking good Ross you where the only one that could see the diamond in the rough. The ebay photos certainly didn't indicate the jewel within ;).

Have to say that the VE is not my favourite of the Monties. I had one in '79 but you are right they can not be mistaken for anything else. The colour is sort of unique in a repulsive sort of way but once that 414 engine starts putting the power to the ground like only the '77-'83 Monties can you forget about the colour.

Bloody number plate is big enough to put your name on it twice ;D once right way up and once upside down just in case :D. Never know which way up the bike may land :o and you need to identify it ;)
Title: Re: THE 414
Post by: HL400 on July 29, 2010, 08:30:59 pm: Hi Ross looks nice, wow does you wife no how much you have paid for the Ohlins shocks ?
all it needs now is a Mikuni carby and it will fly.

went for a ride on the CR 500 Husky last night wow its white lightening. HL
Title: Re: THE 414
Post by: Stan S on July 29, 2010, 09:18:16 pm: Gday Ross, it's coming up well, like to have a short ride some time. (if I can remember how)

Regards Stan.
Title: Re: THE 414
Post by: Doggy Digger on July 29, 2010, 11:03:37 pm: Stanley on the gas!
Title: Re: THE 414
Post by: All Things 414 on July 30, 2010, 02:01:34 am: Hi Stan. More than happy for you to take it for a squirt mate. :)
Title: Re: THE 414
Post by: Hoony on July 30, 2010, 08:00:53 am: can i get it the que too?
Title: Re: THE 414
Post by: All Things 414 on July 30, 2010, 08:17:01 am: Quote from: HL400 on July 29, 2010, 08:30:59 pm
Hi Ross looks nice, wow does you wife no how much you have paid for the Ohlins shocks ?

Henry. I've solved this problem by telling her that I'm sponsoring a fresh water well in a small village in Botzwanna, Africa and that all the cheques that I write out are for them. ;) Paying for an orphans opperation is another good one......

Of course you can Hoony. Just form an orderly que...... :)
Title: Re: THE 414
Post by: montynut on July 30, 2010, 07:31:17 pm: Water wells in Botswana cost less than Ohlins in fact some African countries cost less than Ohlins ;D

If I get down to the HBBB next year maybe we can swap a ride on my VF250 or even one of the Cota trials bikes.

Anyway glad to see you got that Yamaha thing out of your system. No good could have come from that aberration.
Title: Re: THE 414
Post by: All Things 414 on July 31, 2010, 05:21:03 pm: Quote from: montynut on July 30, 2010, 07:31:17 pm
Water wells in Botswana cost less than Ohlins in fact some African countries cost less than Ohlins ;D

Yeah but does a small African country look as good on a bike like this? I've tried an American country but it leaked a lot of oil..... :'(
Title: Re: THE 414
Post by: k2000x on August 01, 2010, 06:54:45 am: what bike is the talon sprocket from
Title: Re: THE 414
Post by: All Things 414 on August 01, 2010, 09:08:17 am: Quote from: k2000x on August 01, 2010, 06:54:45 am
what bike is the talon sprocket from

That's pretty weird. We ordered them from the shop from the Talon distributor. They arrived with Cappra on the packaging but the bolt holes didn't match up. The shop took a pattern of my bolt holes and sent them off to the distributor who in turn spoke to Talon.
Apparently the wheels on all four of my Cappras are wrong. Don't ask me how but according to Talon they are. ::) Even though Cappra sprockets I've ordered from other people over the years have fitted. They must have got it wrong too.

The bike shop I got them off discounted them for me as they didn't want the bullshit of it all and all I have to do now is re-drill the bolt holes.
Title: Re: THE 414
Post by: All Things 414 on August 05, 2010, 05:44:56 pm: What a bastard! The chain is hitting on the shock so I'm gunna have to move the shock mount out a couple of mm. In fact I'll have to do it to the other two in time as well.
Still working on the pipe but have a VF pipe and muffler on for the time being. Little things like pegs and stuff are gunna have to be tidied up but she's all ready to ride (once I move the shock mount)
I couldn't be happier if they gave me a second willie..... 8)

(http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/All_things_414/DSCN1327.jpg)

(http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/All_things_414/DSCN1328.jpg)

(http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/All_things_414/DSCN1332.jpg)

(http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/All_things_414/DSCN1333.jpg)

(http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/All_things_414/DSCN1334.jpg)

(http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/All_things_414/DSCN1330.jpg)

(http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/All_things_414/DSCN1331.jpg)

(http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/All_things_414/DSCN1335.jpg)

(http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/All_things_414/DSCN1336.jpg)
Title: Re: THE 414
Post by: Hoony on August 05, 2010, 05:51:31 pm: Quote from: All Things 414 on August 05, 2010, 05:44:56 pm

..........................I couldn't be happier if they gave me a second willie..... 8)

i thought you already had one, you can't get as silly as you from from pulling one !
Title: Re: THE 414
Post by: All Things 414 on August 05, 2010, 05:53:59 pm: No. I meant a third one. ;)

I'm dedicating the bike to The Christian Bros and Greg Flood as they were the guys crackin' around on them (at a great rate of knots) at the time..... ;)
Title: Re: THE 414
Post by: paul on August 05, 2010, 06:13:46 pm: Quote from: All Things 414 on August 05, 2010, 05:53:59 pm
No. I meant a third one. ;)

I'm dedicating the bike to The Christian Bros and Greg Flood as they were the guys crackin' around on them (at a great rate of knots) at the time..... ;)
yep they were a great help im sure :-\
Title: Re: THE 414
Post by: All Things 414 on August 05, 2010, 06:29:19 pm: Quote from: paul on August 05, 2010, 06:13:46 pm
yep they were a great help im sure :-\

That's alright mate. ;) I can understand you being a bit ticked off. :-* It was you that passed it up wasn't it...... ;D
Title: Re: THE 414
Post by: paul on August 05, 2010, 07:09:35 pm: caused me allot off stress that thing did ;)
Title: Re: THE 414
Post by: mainline on August 05, 2010, 09:22:14 pm: Quote from: Hoony on August 05, 2010, 05:51:31 pm
Quote from: All Things 414 on August 05, 2010, 05:44:56 pm

..........................I couldn't be happier if they gave me a second willie..... 8)

i thought you already had one, you can't get as silly as you from from pulling one !

Where are all these extra Willies going? Do you wear some sort of jacket with lots of pockets? wouldn't want to drop one on the track.

bike looks great, a fast project is always a good project
Title: Re: THE 414
Post by: Freakshow on August 05, 2010, 10:30:07 pm: is that thing painted in army kahki... looks like it.

Match your brown suit . ;)
Title: Re: THE 414
Post by: All Things 414 on August 06, 2010, 06:07:08 pm: Quote from: Freakshow on August 05, 2010, 10:30:07 pm
is that thing painted in army kahki... looks like it.

Yeah. Most weapons come in 'olive drab'..... ;)
Title: Re: THE 414
Post by: All Things 414 on August 17, 2010, 04:42:01 pm: The pesky 'second muffler' has been a bit of a problem. The guts was gone out of the original one and they'd just shoved a piece of pipe deep into the muffler and it ended up waaaay down in the expansion chamber.

The hardest part was finding some good perforated pipe to go on the inside. I got some inch and a quarter perforated from a car muffler joint (which was the smallest I could find) but it was useless as it left little area for packing.
A very used H7 muffler which had been far-flung into the area of the shed where angels fear to tread was discovered and although the outside of the H7 muffler was knackered it produced a pristine core.

A few welsh plugs were placed on the ends and it's a loverly neat fit into the new section of pipe.

Sarsparillas all round..... :)

Here's the trick new bit.
(http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/All_things_414/DSCN1337.jpg)

Here's the evil old section

(http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/All_things_414/DSCN1338.jpg)
Title: Re: THE 414
Post by: cappra on August 17, 2010, 05:05:11 pm: Very nice! :)
Title: Re: THE 414
Post by: Stan S on August 17, 2010, 06:11:03 pm: Another 414 ???
I had forgotten about these photo's of Simo's Monster.

(http://i991.photobucket.com/albums/af39/gf079/Gregs%20pictures/SimmosMontyYamaha.jpg)

(http://i991.photobucket.com/albums/af39/gf079/Gregs%20pictures/Copy2ofSimmosMontyYamaha.jpg)

(http://i991.photobucket.com/albums/af39/gf079/Gregs%20pictures/CopyofSimmosMontyYamaha.jpg)
Title: Re: THE 414
Post by: paul on August 17, 2010, 06:38:36 pm: thats a piss,a stan ;)
Title: Re: THE 414
Post by: All Things 414 on August 17, 2010, 06:59:02 pm: Gezuuz! :o What ever happened to that thing?
Title: Re: THE 414
Post by: paul on August 17, 2010, 07:04:58 pm: its gotta be some were in your area
Title: Re: THE 414
Post by: Stan S on August 17, 2010, 07:15:48 pm: Quote from: All Things 414 on August 17, 2010, 06:59:02 pm
Gezuuz! :o What ever happened to that thing?

I don't know Ross, haven't seen it for a long time. It belonged to David Simpson from Stawell but if I remember correctly he told me someone in Bendigo had built it for him.

Stan.
Title: Re: THE 414
Post by: firko on August 17, 2010, 10:44:49 pm: That was one fast Monty..or was it Simmo ...or both. For a while there back in the early Viper days he and the Monty were top of the totem pole. The poor thing looks a tad overdone in a nineties sort of way. ;D
Title: Re: THE 414
Post by: hodaka on August 17, 2010, 11:43:56 pm: If my memory serves me correctly , Ron Dinsdale jumped on that bike as a bit of a guest legends appearance over 10 years ago at Newborough in Victoria .
He smoked the field like they were almost standing still ,,
Title: Re: THE 414
Post by: All Things 414 on August 22, 2010, 08:15:06 am: Pete (Billet YZ) moved the shock mounts out for me and machined up some spacers that fit nice and snug into the Ohlins.
The guy is a wet dream for anyone restoring bikes and I doubt there's little that he can't make or repair. We're very lucky to have him down here.... ;)

Now that it's all painted up again only a trained Montesa eye would pick that the mounts are different. The stock pipe's back on and whilst there is the odd 'ding' here and there I'm pretty happy with it. It doesn't seem any quieter with that second muffler however ???

(http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/All_things_414/DSCN1339.jpg)

(http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/All_things_414/DSCN1340.jpg)

(http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/All_things_414/DSCN1342.jpg)

(http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/All_things_414/DSCN1341.jpg)
Title: Re: THE 414
Post by: 090 on August 23, 2010, 05:58:38 am: Quote from: Stan S on August 17, 2010, 06:11:03 pm
Another 414 ???
I had forgotten about these photo's of Simo's Monster.

(http://i991.photobucket.com/albums/af39/gf079/Gregs%20pictures/SimmosMontyYamaha.jpg)

Its up here in Queensland. I can't remember who owns it. Obviously not doing any riding . I last saw it 3 or even 4 years ago at a bike workshop. Looked a bit rough too. I reckon I could find it if I looked hard enough.
Title: Re: THE 414
Post by: All Things 414 on August 23, 2010, 06:18:20 am: I'd be more than interested if you could.... :)
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Post by: shorelinemc on August 23, 2010, 10:42:23 am: i know where it is dosnt get ridden much
Title: Re: THE 414
Post by: Stan S on August 30, 2010, 10:47:38 pm: What about this baby VE

(http://i991.photobucket.com/albums/af39/gf079/Gregs%20pictures/MontesaVA125.jpg)