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Marketplace => eBay Finds => Topic started by: mxfool on March 15, 2010, 06:03:39 pm
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:P Hi all i have a quote from the castle, and i believe this was about a trading post ad. if i am wrong please let me know "TELL HIM HE'S DREAMING " and if any body thinks this is a bargin PLEASE EXPLAIN.a quote from a famous or infamous Person ??? ???
http://www.tradingpost.com.au/Automotive/Motorbikes-ATVs/Road-Bikes/AdNumber=W140451747193?CRDealerID=0fQKoQwk0RgAAAEi_js0Fc5c&HotlistView=true
Mxfool
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think you will find thats the price for the finished bike :P
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I read that, but is that still a good price cause if it is it confirms my suspicion that i am in deed a tight arse ;D
mxfool
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This fellow from Bendigo sells some real sweet bikes and has a good reputation for quality.......................... its a BUY :P
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K sells bikes all over australia 8)
which has been great to get bums on seats
at vintage and evo events
you will probably find it is on the money ;)
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This fellow from Bendigo sells some real sweet bikes and has a good reputation for quality.......................... its a BUY :P
Yeah I have a couple of the fellow from Bendigo's bikes and they are worth every cent. Mint paint, rebuilt everything, no short cuts.
If you tried to build the same spec with big bore CR360/390 motor then you would drop 4K on the motor (including core), $1500 on the forks, $500 on the swingarm, $1000 on the shocks, so 7 grand so far.....now all you need is frame $400, pipe $600, nice wheels $1000, tank $300, paint $400, plastics $400, cables $200, airbox $100, chain, sprockets, tyres and the million and one bits to make final assembly.
Yep you can probably get a few $$$ off the bits on ebay but allow for freight, rebuilding them and you soon get back up to decent money. You are buying same level bike as Maico 490 and it is the same money.
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Thats a bargain
i know of two 79 model Honda ,ME 360 kit bikes that sold recently for much more than that.
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there are 2 bikes mentioned in this add
HONDA, CR250R, 1979, Red, MOTOCROSS, 248cc, 5 SPEED MANUAL,
Coming soon, 1979 Honda CR360 red devil. Fitted with 360 big bore kit, Simons Forks, Fox air shocks, RC style alloy swing arm, works pipe. This will be state of the art from the era and the envy of your mates. Call today to make it yours!, Excellent condition, Bendigo Dirt Bikes Pty Ltd, 1300 517 485, Golden Square
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Thats a bargain
i know of two 79 model Honda ,ME 360 kit bikes that sold recently for much more than that.
Yeah I think with the 360 you are in the Gucci CR department and it costs what it costs. Of course icing on the cake would be full Foxy suspension but you can't have everything for 9 grand.
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You can add a set of Fox forks & clamps no problems, I have them on hand. $3K extra but! Actually I think the Simons forks are about to find their way on to a certian 430 Husqvarna, best adjust the add. MXfool, if you think this is steep, what about $30K for the Lackey RC450 replica? I'd say you've never built a bike to a high or concours standard. I can do you a standard CR250RZ for $5500.
Cheers,
K
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I reckon the Honda's on the money too. Marc puts it right when he maps out the component costs. Add $60+per hour labour to the mix and it's a really good deal.
My only concern about 360 Mugens is in the reliability of the transmission. I remember that the RZ had a marginal tranny that was known to go bang with a stock 250 engine (a dodgy 3rd gear from memory). How does the Mugen handle the increased torque of an extra 110cc? This isn't a criticism of the bike, just an honest question. ;)
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genuine concern Firko - but not so difficult to rectify permanently nowadays as there are quite a few spares for these around.
Rossco
PS - for an ME360 it is a good price.
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My only concern about 360 Mugens is in the reliability of the transmission. I remember that the RZ had a marginal tranny that was known to go bang with a stock 250 engine
Hi Firko,
There was someone in the UK making upgraded 2/3 gear, I believe Mugen had their own gear upgrade back in the day on the later bikes.
Hey BigK, 3 grand for the Forks sounds very reasonable. What do you think a set of mint Simons forks and clamps are worth ?.
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$2K+, not as desirable as Fox, but not too far behind. Mugen kit comes with upgraded gears. Having said that if you know the gearboxes were suspect, wouldn't you treat it with a little respect? I would. Got a Marty Smith replica '77 CR125 on the "to do" list as well, won't be cheap either!
Cheers,
K
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that auction has plenty of time to run yet ;)
Wow I could just about retire on my fork collection ;D
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Got a Marty Smith replica '77 CR125 on the "to do" list as well, won't be cheap either!
Yep make it this good and it won't be cheap
(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg71/marcFX_photo/IMG_7642.jpg)
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If you tried to build the same spec with big bore CR360/390 motor then you would drop 4K on the motor (including core), $1500 on the forks, $500 on the swingarm, $1000 on the shocks,
You will have to show us an itemised account for that 4k rebuild, as I'm struggling to see more than $1k.
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I think nobody in business needs to give you itemized anything, however, lets see my wild guess is, core motor $5-600, rebuilt ME360 kit, piston, barrel, crank, rod kit, including gear box giving it away at $2000, machining of casings $400, seals, fasteners and bearings $400, labour at $50 * 16 = $800
Last 250 I built with replating the cylinder was close to $500, add piston, rod kit, seals, all bearings, gaskets, all fasteners, blasting and painting, labour.
Depends on what kind of job you want to do,
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$1000 to build a 360 ME engine, I'll have 10 please.
K
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The reality is anyone who hasn't built a bike like that never will and never will own a bike like that so they cant justify the build cost involved. That Honda 125 above, the tank alone would cost $800 to a grand!, maybe more (and worth every cent). I like trickery (if thats a word) and thats what makes the world go round......imagine no Ducati's, no Mugens, no OW.s, no SR's, no RH/ RN,s, no Ferraries, no Dodge Vipers, no Astin Martins (no James Bond ), no Monaro's, no GT-HO's, no 6 pak anything.....I'll just kill myself now?. It's cool to own and build something like this whether it be original or genuine.
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I like trickery (if thats a word) and thats what makes the world go round......
Good thing about VMX is it adjusts to your budget, though normally to the maximum side of mine. ;D
The Marty Smith replica CR125 might cost 10 grand but it isn't going to win anymore than that RM125B you picked up for $1500./ It is just nice to own.
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$1000 to build a 360 ME engine, I'll have 10 please.
K
I'll have a NDA/CIC argreement for you to sign and the account details to DD the $10k into and the address to send them to.
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The way i see it... are you building... or are you paying someone to build it ? I grew up around engine building where you cant get factory or after market parts. You want rings... you make em, so to speak.
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We're talking about a 360 Mugen engine right?.. If someone can build one for $1000 that LOOKS like a 360 Mugen and not just a bored and stroked 250 then i'm with BigK and i'll grab several also.
The value is in the genuine MUGEN parts not just the fact it's a 360.
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Yes you're right, my comments are mainly based on paying other people to do simple work that can blow a budget into the abis.
cheers.
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If I read the ad correctly, its a bored and stroked motor and not a Mugen kit. Is this correct?
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Brad is correct, this one is a "360 big bore" kitted engine. The Mugen one, if it ever gets up for sale, will be HEAPS dearer again! I think I'll add a line to the add: cheapskates, tightarses and those who have NFI, need not apply.
K
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The Mugen one, if it ever gets up for sale, will be HEAPS dearer again!
Damn straight! Not for short armed long pocket types.