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Clubroom => VMX Sidecars => Topic started by: odd1 on December 11, 2009, 06:12:23 am
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Any of the sidecar teams interested in doing the masters games there is no competion at the moment, but if enough interest was shown we could approach the organizers. ( see general disscusion to see details)
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Looks like it will be around November I think.
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Where is it being held?
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gold coast area
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Ok just down the road,reckon the club340 boys will turn up
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How many teams is that? I know you guys like your 4 strokes is thier going to be any objections if moderns are invited?
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Had a look at the masters web site last night it sounds like its a huge event with a lot of people who would remeber the golden age of sidecars couldn't think of a better way to show case the sport. If we have missed the cut off date for next year, we should be lobbying for its inclusion for 2012 but it will require people to get off there bums and do something!
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havent talked to anyone yet but I think we could get at least 5 oldies, cant see a problem with moderns the more the merrier!
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Next yr looks like it's getting even busier! If we can get on the program, count us in.
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Looks like we got 3 2 more to talk to
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Beauty!!!!!
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Soon sorry I forgot the other day
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Good news! Spoken to one of the organizers at the masters games they have an open mind about the sidecars, and said to me as long as, at least 6 teams turned up they would let us join in. The track is at Reedy creek (where ever that is) I believe it is going to be natural terrain however there will be some jumps in it and have been told it will be sandy they are happy to let the moderns join in and if it helps to raise the numbers that has to be a plus, the classes could be worked out by ages, if we have a big turn out. I think the event is from the 6th to the 14th of November 2010. The sub regs have to be worked out by mid Feb so we need to start planning. The cost is $90.00 per person so 180.00 per sidecar team and you will need a national race licence ( dont think day licences will be allowed ) If you are racing at Broadford you should already have a national licence. I don,t want us to get bogged down in politics of what is allowed because we have the chance to display our great team sport to an expected 10,000 participants, I can't think of a better way to show case sidecar MX.
Have tried to contact the ASA as yet have had no response, but hopefully they could send a few teams over, some of the West Australians might be interested if they are going to CD7 and sending bikes in a container again, the Queensland guys might be able to store the container until November for the event, and then send it back later. Remember its going to be hot that time of year as well. We need to get the ball rolling so if I can get some names and numbers, so that I have something to present to organizers to get us into the games that would be a good start. If you want, send info as a pm to me, thats ok.
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I just loooove your enthusiasm... :-*
Wait till after Santas been and the new year breaks and hit it hard again :P
Six is good. :P .its just enough to get people eye balling the sidecars discipline for the future,just like a kid in a lollie shop ;D
cheers
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Its good to see they have a class for unbalanced people who need a 3rd wheel to keep them up right isnt it :D :D :D
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Ahh, thats popeye and Vorn excluded ohh shit,and Robin Ricketts
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I would think we could get at least 10.
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Well done ODD1 reddy creek will be a battle for a hack like me butthe faster guys will like it, but I'll have a go anyway
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Thats the attitude we want. What about the Husband and wife team on the RM do you think you could get them to come along? Remember we can make the rules so I'm sure we could come up with something to accomadate the slower riders and beginers but it has to be workable and simple.
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What about the Husband and wife team on the RM
I believe they are too young...don't you have to be over 50/55 for the Masters games. 8)
cheers
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The minimum age is 30 so most of the sidecar teams are well into thier old age (probably approaching thier old old age). How many classes depends on how many turn up. Have made contact with the ASA will send an email next week to put them in the picture.
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I have been given some more information sent to me so hers the up date. The games are open to anyone 30 and over as a team there ages will be added together and divided by 2 to get their average age and that will be the age group they will race in. The cost is approximately $200 per team. The rules are to be as MA G.C.R.s as this is an MA sanctioned event. The sidecars will be racing on Sunday the 7th of November 2010. There is also a vinduro and enduro on the 6th of November the enduro is open to modern bikes however the vinduro is only open to pre 85 solos and there is also a motocross on the Sunday for the solo's. At the moment we have about 3or4 teams from QLD. I have mentioned on the vmx forum that the event was at reedy creek I have since been corrected and been told it will be on the gold coast somewhere. We will need at least six teams to get a start. The organizers don't mind if moderns and oldies run together as this will help to boost numbers. If any of the members are thinking about going to CD7 we might be able to arrange somewhere to store them until November and then the teams could fly in and get the outfits shipped back to SA.
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Good show old chap...well done. 8)
I wouldn't think you would have a problem in finding enough outfits for the grid...
If you get short you can always pull passengers out of the Vinduro or MX class,there is always some one keen to be different ;D
Happy Christmas
cheers
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Odd one reedy creek is in the gold coast shire, there will be 6 in Bmcc next year possibly 7 I'd say all will attend, I can store a couple no worries, and I dare say a few of the other guys could find a spot in the shed for them, you have my number so pass it on if you want
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Well including myself looks like we are up to 8 I,d say we have a race. Have made contact with the president of the ASA the dates look close to when they have thier ozy titles hopfully they might be able to muster a few teams to come over.
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Good stuff, looks like this will happen!
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To clarify a few points re Pan Pacific Masters Games,bearing in mind these are preliminary plans here is some information:-
Games dates--6-14 Nov Vinduro & Enduro 6th Nov MX 7th Nov.
Eligibility--Competitor's age 30yrs [average age applies for teams ] minimum
Machines--Vinduro - Evo and earlier [Pre 75 if sufficient entries ] manufactured as enduro or trail models ] solos only.
Enduro-- All bikes [subject to safety scrutineering ] solos only.
MX-- Classes for Modern,Evo, & Pre75 [pre 70 & 65 depending on entries ] Sidecars may be included depending on committed numbers.
Track location--Gold Coast area [ not Reedy Creek ] on natural terrain.
Awards--Master Games medals,Gold Silver & Bronze in age groups 30-39,40-49,50-59,60-69, 70+.May be split further or combined depending on interest.
Fees--Games fee per person $90.00 [late fee $110], Race fee Vinduro $30 , Enduro $30 , MX $15 per class.
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All very good news!!
As a suggestion I wonder if the rule of total combined age including sidecar could be used in this event, that may discurage two 30 yr olds turning up on a modern and making us all look giriatric (spell check reqd.)
That way even Don Newell could ride on a new outfit with a young passenger and maybe pull a medal.
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Sounds like a fair rule to me. If everyone who intends to enter is happy I will ask it might encourage more people to enter older bikes which would be great.If there are riders that would have a go if that rule was introduced let me know. Mind you those youngsters will have to be pretty quick to make you and popeye look like geriatrics !
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To clarify a query re eligibility--- sidecars Pre 85 [MX only] ,Vinduro & Classic MX Evo & earlier solos.
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Discount entries close 3rd Sept--final close 22nd Oct--NO LATE ENTRIES.
Discussions with sidecar guys has resulted in opening entries to later outfits whereby we may adopt staggered starts if there is a great descrepancy between machines.We'll take advice on this when entries are known.
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Ok guys and girls time to muster the passengers and drivers and get your entries into the masters games the first sidecar is entered lets put on a good show for the spectators and show them that old guys rule.
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Count us in. Don't know if it will be on the RM or the Yam EML we just purchased from UK. See if it gets here on time.
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Well done bring them both just in case.
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Games entries are going great,for both enduro sections & MX solos ,way up on 2008.Only one sidecar entry so far though.
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Very dissappointing from the sidecar people. come on and get your entries in. We have entered also and our new EML will hopefully be arriving in Bris on the 31st of October and we would like to race it at the masters games. We are driving 1000 km to be there and camping at the track. So come on, time is running out.
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Have spoken to a couple of them and they tell me that the entry fee is too high. I explained that it would probably be a once-in-a-life typr thing and that they should get into it.
We might have to do a chook raffler or take the hat around.. :D
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We could do a chook raffle for u an popeye to get u to S.A! :)
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I have no other option, the geriatric games would not let me enter! ;D
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well fellas I have to say the entry fee is a bit high but its not a once in alife time thing unless you plan on droping dead in the next 2 years, my passenger is out untill next year, although odd1 has told me he has a willing and able passenger for me, will have a yarn to you blokes at the next race meeting and decide then
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Its on your doorstep next time could be anywhere in Australia!
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SA got the official Nats .
Bring it on 2011 :P
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Yep, we all assome we will still be hare and able to ride next year or in 2 years-let's do it while we can.
How much have you got or what do you think the entry should be? and let's see if you're fair dinkum.
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Well the trouble is it won,t be there in 2 years if we don,t have enough sidecars the organizers will just say if they cant be bothered when its on there door step why should we come on its not like you haven,t had time to organize I first mentioned it before christmas.
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Yep, we all assome we will still be hare and able to ride next year or in 2 years-let's do it while we can.
How much have you got or what do you think the entry should be? and let's see if you're fair dinkum.
Have you entered? yeah I thought so!
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Missed a good day at practise yesterday 'Hittatree once or twice'. The way you were going at Harrisville we thought you were really into it. I thought we were going to talk about it then?
Popeye has entered and Adam is going to drive the Wasp so yes I'm entered.
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chair is broke like its owner cracked frame, will find out today if cant be fixed without ripping the motor out, if it cant be done wont get done untill the off season
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Six sidecars being entered at least for the Games so should be good fun. l wonder if they will let us enter vinduro we could swap riders at half time. :D
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Shite Hittatree-was you ridin' it that hard??
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proberly rusted out knowin my luck!
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I have had a friend from Russia call me about hiring a bike from a shop on the Gold Coast. He said he was Ima Gettoffalot ex Russian sidecar champ and his passenger Ikin Hangonnawell and he was looking for a sidecar to race in the Masters Games-seems that they have never heard of sidecar cross and refered him to the local Cossack dealer for proper translation.
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Damn! that was me he was talking to just opened a ural and nada dealership at southport, whens he coming?
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Entries close in less than 3 weeks--only 3 entries asat 30 Sept. Yes entry is expensive with two crew having to enter ,however if you both ride a solo also ,it becomes cheaper than recent Nats.If you do Vinduro and/or Enduro as well it is great value. Bear in mind you get free entry into all other venues ,entertainment ,social activities etc it is cheap [the headline entertainment would cost you $70-$100 per show outside this event.
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The problem is if I ride a solo I keep jumping off when I get to the corners so that counts that out.
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Come on EML have a go at the vinduro and enduro. You used to be pretty handy on a solo from memory. :o
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EML has also been known to jump off when landing, not just in corners
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I was just standing up for my rights!!!
Are you guys riding enduro or vinduro.??
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I am riding enduro and vinduro on odd one's PE175 and Popye is my team mate for the vinduro. Have a go Im sure you can get a bike and join a team.
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are you and popeye in a 2man team or a 4 man??
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We need to get Hittatree and Robin to enter-do we take the hat around or have a raffle??
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have a raffle first prize one sidecar supplied by hitatree ;D ;D ;D
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I meant like a chook raffle dickhead! but hey , if you can talk him into it....
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are you and popeye in a 2man team or a 4 man??
The vinduro event is a two man team event
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Not a problem Lama I'll put you down for the first ticket send me 5k
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Wanted one passenger for Masters games would be better if you have already entered the solos and would like to have a go on a sidecar if you pm me I will give details
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Sorry its a passeger we require.
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And I was always told they were 'just the shit on the side'!!
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Final count 9 sidecars--good effort ,and we look forward to seeing you doing your stuff Sunday.
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Nine sidecars on the start line. The first corner will be interesting then. Good to see the numbers increasing. ;D
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Make that 7, we broke 2 on the week end!!.
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You have five days to repair them.
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1 is almost done but the other ( can you see the smoke if you look south?)
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I have a spare RM 500 outfit if you need it. Picked up the EML today. Just needs fuel and oil and some chain lube. Bring some numbers just in case you need a bike to ride.
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Picked up the EML today
the gold beauty ? how exciting great news ,can't wait to see photo action :P :P
can I post a pic up now all over cyber space pleasezzzzzz ;) ;D :P
cheers
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(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz259/270YAM/3349295b.jpg)
Like a pig in shit!
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Did it come with a full tank of gas?? and a box of sunnies for you to hand out?
Well done team.
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Allison. If you have a good photo, post it. Thanks for the pic Matt. I can share some sunnies with you EML. Will fire it up Friday at Pimpama and see what it's got. ;D
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Matt. You will be like a pig in shit when you get to ride it next weekend. :P
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8) awesome cant wait! 8)
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Matt. You will be like a pig in shit when you get to ride it next weekend. :P
I know this good swinger from the west,I'll send him over ;) ;D ;D
(http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r259/vmx247/helentoo.jpg)
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BIG love to you Helen and Dave, who are the other outfit podium people standing with you ??
Well done :-* :-*
Did the big EML beat popeye ;) ;D
Photo # 538
http://www.goldcoastphotography.com/photocart/index.php?vp=11&do=photocart&viewGallery=10581
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As usual Popeye had reliability issues, so the answer is yes ::)
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Other outfit podium people are Wayne Hollaway & Jamie McMurdo, Chris Bullen & steve Baker
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As usual Popeye had reliability issues, so the answer is yes ::)
Great news ...pilot goes solo ;D and a few class's had the brave bringing home medalions...good stuff..results from facebook :-* Hope you lot can make it to HBBB @ Easter.. :P
cheers
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If you are going to be at Broadford at Easter, you had better be at Towoomba the week after for the Spectacular-I'll sacrifice the Wasp again if Steve wants to represent W.A.
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I'll sacrifice the Wasp again if Steve wants to represent W.A.
Don't give it away, if u are riding the EML you will need a spare! ;D
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I'll sacrifice the Wasp again if Steve wants to represent W.A.
Much appreciated though and would bring boy child to passenger,but has shut down on after HBBB
cheers Steven
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David and Helens EML will be available, I hear it has given her 2 broken ribs and Dave a 'tick' :D :D :D
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David and Helens EML will be available, I hear it has given her 2 broken ribs and Dave a 'tick' :D :D :D
coastal pests ::) didnt the tick come with stitches.. :(
cheers
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Well it's over,and I'm glad we took a gamble on the chairs showing up.It looked a bit shaky a week out but as usual when they do trot their stuff it's a good show.I know the spectators enjoyed the chariots and they'll be welcome in 2012.
Some great photos on vmxshotz.com
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Super, you did a great job with what was at hand, and I for one thankyou so much for your efforts, though I speak for all of the sidecar teams for sure.
Thanks so much again.
p.s. Anytime you want a drive on the Wasp I would be happy to passenger for you- you never know, it could be another box to tick.
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Thanks for the appreciation and the invitation.I ticked that box back in the "60s --short circuit & scrambles on 650 Trump.I'll dig out some photos for you.
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I ticked that box back in the "60s --short circuit & scrambles on 650 Trump.I'll dig out some photos for you.
Do that !! I looked over some old 60's pic today of Kalgoorlie with a sidecar tipped over in sequence photos.
Kids with home spun jumpers
First aid in suit and hat
Old 44 drums to outline track and the cause of roll over. :o
2 brothers sidecaring together for over 40 years :P
Some spectator in the back ground with the old camera filming away ??
Back in the day 8) Fantasic stuff. 8)
cheers
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Super, you were a passenger though if I remember rightly- I was thinking you could have a drive.
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Well all the excitment is over and I have had time to reflect on what a great time was had by all, and despite popular belief that the world would end if the the so called moderns mixed it with the classics it didn't ! In fact a pre 75 bike won the event expertly steered by Jamie and passengered by Wayne and If Popeye and Vaughn could get there sidecar to do more than one lap I'm sure the results might have been different but thats sidecar racing. I thank Col for letting us have a race and as he said it was looking doutfull a few weeks before but thanks to all the teams that made the effort to turn up. We are now looking forward to the Sidecar spectacular next year run by the ASA. See you there.