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Marque Remarks => British (BSA, Greeves, Triumph etc) => Topic started by: firko on November 14, 2007, 12:06:30 am
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Here's a shot of my friend Ben in Englands 4 valve CCMs. Bens's also got a couple of HLs, a Curtis Honda, a magnificent BSA Goldie scrambler and a shitload more, all of them exotic and immaculate. I like the gold fork legs :
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-8/1062154/CCMsrear.jpg)
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Those bikes are trick Firko. I'd love to have a '79 or '80 CCM like one of those but don't know if i could handle the gearshift on the wrong side. When i was at the MX des Nations in England a few years ago i spoke to Jimmy Aird and he had one for sale for 1,500 pounds but i didn't do anything about it. In hindsight.....
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I had a look at a CCM last night. I was told,and have no reason to disbelieve him, that it is the first CCM. 1972,BSA copy. Pretty cool.
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WOW!
CCM's and HL's in the same stable.
now that what i call lifestyle!
nice bikes firko!
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All early CCMs are BSA based. When the BSA factory went belly up, Alan Clews bought all of the remaining B50 engines and tooling and started making his own frames housing the highly modified Beeza engines he named Clews Strokas (later changed to Clews Competition Motorcycles or CCM for short). As the years progressed, the engines gained more and more CCM mods but even the above 4 valve '79 models are still very much BSA based. Here's the ex works 72/73 model ridden by Bob Wright in the '73 Trans-AMA.
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-8/1062154/ccm.jpg)
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Thats the one i looked at Firko.
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its actually very easy to get used to the gear lever on the otherside. i thought it would be hard but i found it easy to get to used to and can jump from jap bike to brit bike with no problems. some of the brit bikes also have down shifting instead of the usual up shifting on japs bikes but again it doesnt take too long to adapt.
how the heck do they get the fork legs gold? is it gold hard chrome?
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aahh CCM's i love em. Remember as kid back in about 1975 stumbled across an MX meeting a Tailem Bend in south aus while on holiday with the oldies. Amoungst all the crackely two strokes came this most fantastic sound of a CCM being piloted by Lester Rowley, and he was winning. I could not believe it, a 4 stroke, out in front. Some things you never forget.
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Alan Jones in Sydney and Peter Lawson in Perth both supposedly own ex Lester Rowley CCMs. If anyone wants to read a really well researched book on the history of CCM, Rolling Thunder by Bill Lawless (long out of print) is a great read. It occasionally pops up on UK eBay but it's never cheap. John Matthews was selling reprints at CD4 FOR $50.
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-8/1062154/rt.jpg)
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A great example of the recent jump in CCM prices, have a look at the price this incomplete basket case 79 model went for on UK eBay. If you add the costs of re nickeling the frame, rebuilding the engine, finding an original front end, front wheel, tank, seat and guards, rebuilding the forks,shocks,wheels and all of the little things that crop up during a resto, there's not a lot of value in Au 6k plus!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&&item=170169058382&ssPageName=ADME:B:EF:AU:1120 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&&item=170169058382&ssPageName=ADME:B:EF:AU:1120)
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If anyone wants to read a really well researched book on the history of CCM, Rolling Thunder by Bill Lawless (long out of print) is a great read. John Matthews was selling reprints at CD4 FOR $50.
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-8/1062154/rt.jpg)
hhhmmm, I wont be happy now until I get a copy of this book. Thanks a lot Firko ::)
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Hi Brit boys
The CCM is one very cool bike.
(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f65/djracingyz/BritishBikeDay07045.jpg)
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I recall a bike racing in the 'Brisbane scene' around 78/79; it was a 600 CCM motor in a Maico frame and it had a white or alloy tank.
At least that's how I remember it...
He was either a B or C grader - and it had the best note ever!
Does anyone else remember that bike/rider?
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I remember seeing a CCM in '75 when Gaston Rahier raced in NZ. The sight and sound of it won't be forgoten.
If anyone can locate a copy or reprint (is the guy doing anymore?) of Rolling Thunder I's be a starter with the $
Brent
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Well spotted Brent, that was ridden, as has been documented on other threads, by the New Plymouth rider Reg Dixon, a folk hero in those times, he had a Cheney B50 before that, but it was on the CCM that he used to perform extraordinary deeds to the crowd's delight, specialising in long, low tabletop jumps before they had been invented. Never, ever saw him again after he packed it in, but I can assure you, and him, he has never been forgotten....
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Here's a copy of Rolling Thunder going on eBay UK. It's cheap (so far), the seller accepts Pay Pal but unfortunately he won't sell outside of the UK and there's a blocker on for overseas bids.. If you know someone living in the UK who will bid on it on for you, I'd go for it. Or even better it may be worth an email to the seller pleading for him to open the item for o/seas bids.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CCM-FOUR-STROKES-ROLLING-THUNDER-TRIAL-BOOK_W0QQitemZ190180316501QQihZ009QQcategoryZ52641QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CCM-FOUR-STROKES-ROLLING-THUNDER-TRIAL-BOOK_W0QQitemZ190180316501QQihZ009QQcategoryZ52641QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)
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Thanks Firko, I'm trying to contact a guy in England now.
GD I skived off from school cert studying to see that meeting at the old Queen Elizibeth park track.
It all looked a lot different when I last went back in 2005.
Brent
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Alot different airight Brent, the Greenies got there way and got all Motorsport banned from Queen Elizabeth park, which has allowed the Gorse etc to grow naturally, as it should be, as its such a beautiful native plant!!!!!!!!
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The prices for Rolling Thunder are going up as much as the bikes. The UK eBay issue went for 46 pounds or, in our language $106.84 for a rough copy. It's a good read but it's not worth that kind of money.
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firko ...thought you might be interested in this bike...its a ccm580 1975 model with a three speed quaife gearbox or what ever that means...
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Andrew, as CCM engines got bigger and more powerful the old 250 BSA based gearbox suffered. CCM got Quaife Engineering,a well known Pommy gearbox manufacturer, to design and make a bulletproof 3 speed. The gears are as big as that in a top loader Ford and because the CCM is so torquey, a 3 speed is all that's needed. Unfortunately I reckon that bike would be out of my limited price range.
By the look it's got Simons forks as well. It could well be a 10k bike.
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hey andrew were is that bike (ccm)
btw the lester rowley ccm is for sale as we speak 20 k though
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Here's an engine for sale. Seeing that you can now buy replica CCM frames and body panels, it may make a good start for someone........http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110225397024&ssPageName=ADME:B:EF:GB:1123 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110225397024&ssPageName=ADME:B:EF:GB:1123)
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Jeez that CCM engine didn't turn out to be much of a bargain. 1220 pounds ( $2600 au) is top money for a good engine not for a rooted rebuilder............... And the prices keep creeping higher and higher!
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All early CCMs are BSA based. When the BSA factory went belly up, Alan Clews bought all of the remaining B50 engines and tooling and started making his own frames housing the highly modified Beeza engines he named Clews Strokas (later changed to Clews Competition Motorcycles or CCM for short). As the years progressed, the engines gained more and more CCM mods but even the above 4 valve '79 models are still very much BSA based. Here's the ex works 72/73 model ridden by Bob Wright in the '73 Trans-AMA.
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-8/1062154/ccm.jpg)
I must admit I am a little biased with the 73 !
Maybe cos this one is mine ;D
Note to self ...... must tidy front garden !
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Nice bike Grouty...is it the same very bike Wright rode in the Trans-AMA or was I sucked in by a false lead?
If it is you've got a nice piece of history (even if it's got no history it's still a gem).
A guy in my club had an almost identical Clews Stroka back in '74. He was a Pom who'd bought it to Oz with him when he migrated. I recall him giving me a ride on it at an Annandale-Leichardt club meeting at Amaroo Park in the wet and I loved it, it was so much better than my 440 Maico in the mud ;).
I often wonder what happened to the bike as it was never seen once the owner bought an RM250 in '75. You'd imagine that a bike so unique in Australia would have surfaced over the last 30+ years, perhaps it went back to the UK.
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Yes, it is one of the two sent out to the U.S. in 73 for Bob to ride. I have spoken to all the owners the bike has had since new (five, I think, including CCM and me.)
Since the finish of the 73 AMA series this poor old thing has done most disiplines in it's life. From motocross, trials (not a success !) to road racing and ice racing !
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Alan Jones in Sydney and Peter Lawson in Perth both supposedly own ex Lester Rowley CCMs. If anyone wants to read a really well researched book on the history of CCM, Rolling Thunder by Bill Lawless (long out of print) is a great read. It occasionally pops up on UK eBay but it's never cheap. John Matthews was selling reprints at CD4 FOR $50.
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-8/1062154/rt.jpg)
The book has been re-issued with a CCM update that covers the more recent years, changes of ownership etc. It still has alot of the original content and is really useful for period pics to see what they were doing to the bikes through the years. You can buy that on ebay in the UK and at teh classic off road show last year Mr Clews was there signing copies of the book. I dont recall them being overly expencive. You can also get them from Amazon.
If the UK seller wont ship it, you could send it to me (I am in the UK) and I can pass it to one of your fellow country men who I believe is coming over in May or any of you lot that may be coming to Farleigh for the VMxDes Nations. Am I right in thinking that there will be an Aussi container bring bikes to the meeting. You can get an aweful lot of stuff in a container. It would be a shame to send it back to Oz part full..........
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All early CCMs are BSA based. When the BSA factory went belly up, Alan Clews bought all of the remaining B50 engines and tooling and started making his own frames housing the highly modified Beeza engines he named Clews Strokas (later changed to Clews Competition Motorcycles or CCM for short).
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Hi Brit boys
The CCM is one very cool bike.
(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f65/djracingyz/BritishBikeDay07045.jpg)
The owner Mike recently let me loose on this awesome machine 8) It really is a magnificent machine and a great Evo weapon :)
I had been riding pre 75 and pre 78 all day and mike let me out at the end of the day. The bike makes great power but what really got me was how well it handled and the suspension just soaked up everything with ease ( a world apart from the 77 rm 250 i had been riding earlier. I have always been impressed with Maico handling :) but i think this CCM took it to another level 8)
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Something a little different ;D
(http://i957.photobucket.com/albums/ae59/CheneySachs/scan0018.jpg)
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A big bucks trials iron :o
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1982-CCM-Armstrong-CMX-Rotax-Monoshock-Classic-Enduro-Evo-Motocross-/190609878994?pt=UK_Motorcycles&hash=item2c613befd2
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Ugly as sin ..... but if it's cheap enough I would be tempted ::)
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I saw that and thought it look rather nice (albeit a 2 smoke)
At that price cheap as chips
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Norman Barrow
Former 1973 CCM factory rider Norman Barrow from Millom, Cumbria has sadly died whilst out on his mountain bike.
Date 14 December 2011
http://www.classicscramble.com/
RIP Legend
(http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r259/vmx247/NormanBarrow.jpg)
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Santa you ------- ! where the ---- is my CCM !! the one i have been pleading and praying for every night since last chrissy ! Please-please-please :'(
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/ROLLING-THUNDER-BSA-CCM-TRIALS-MOTOR-CYCLES-HISTORY-BOOK-/360408004397?pt=Non_Fiction&hash=item53e9fdb72d
Thanks Alison, just bought it ;D
Stan.
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Does anybody know if john matthews still sells the copies ? :)
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Does anybody know if john matthews still sells the copies ?
Perhaps Dirttrumpy might know, I think he had something to do with printing them. I bought a repro copy but have since bought a genuine article for less than the $50 Matthews was asking. Hang out for a genuine copy ;).
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Anyone know where the frame #'s is on these ccms? Cheers
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On the frame! It's ok you can beat me up Saturday
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Hi,
Frame numbers on the front lower steering head, Year number then build sequence number, ie;75030
Engine numbers , bore X stroke , compression ratio, year, then build sequence number, ie, 9090107533,
do the later 78/79? have a reference to g/box speeds, 3/4speed ?
cheers
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On the frame! It's ok you can beat me up Saturday
do the later 78/79? have a reference to g/box speeds, 3/4speed ?
thanks and pm people...
rewelded and rechromed have buried #'s
1978 305TMK1 has 4 speed gearbox ,though no refrence made to 1979 gearing which went onto the four valve...trench diggers :)
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Shopping for these CCM's at Mark Cooks and ________ ??
cheers
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Shopping for what Ali ??? ???
I'll be seeing Mark on Sunday if it is any help.
The nice man has just "refreshed" the motor on my '73. All I have to do is pick up the bill ..... :-\ First time out for me next Sunday (Easter Sun).
I would put up the odd picture, but my 2 1/2 year old has swiped the phone lead !
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Shopping for what Ali ??? ???
I'll be seeing Mark on Sunday if it is any help.
The nice man has just "refreshed" the motor on my '73. All I have to do is pick up the bill ..... :-\ First time out for me next Sunday (Easter Sun).
I would put up the odd picture, but my 2 1/2 year old has swiped the phone lead !
75 ~ New clutch cable..anything within Aust ?......
cheers A
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Probably just as quick to get Mark to post one :)
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Probably just as quick to get Mark to post one :)
Thanks pm/email sent..
Is Performance Engineering Services and CCM Britian Ltd both Mark Cooks business @ The Old Dairy Buildings.
cheers
and some old CCM History-Clews family.Check out the skid lid along with the Corgi bike 8)
http://www.britishpathe.com/video/four-year-old-whizz-kid/query/Scrambles
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Yes Alison they are.
Sent you an email earlier. re the 75 ??
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A video of my rather dismal performance on Easter Sunday ....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mk7BYMOlYDs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mk7BYMOlYDs)
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that's a great looking hilly track! no dust...looks steep in parts!
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This was my mate's 500 in about 1979 on the Gold Coast a beautiful thing to ride but the right hand gear change gave me a fright the first time I rode it went for a touch of brake just at a tight corner and went up a gear that was exciting lucky it handled so well managed to pull it round instead of wrestling with a post and rail fence. Sorry about the picture quality.(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t363/rodgilbert/img013_zps11ec1c1e.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/rodgilbert/media/img013_zps11ec1c1e.jpg.html)(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t363/rodgilbert/img014_zps70afa139.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/rodgilbert/media/img014_zps70afa139.jpg.html)
Regards Rod.
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Nice, would love to know where it is now..
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Might be in my shed
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Might not be too...
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Every CCM rider Ive ever known has won a title. 8) (http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r259/vmx247/Geoff_zps7147c5a0.jpg) (http://s146.photobucket.com/user/vmx247/media/Geoff_zps7147c5a0.jpg.html)(http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r259/vmx247/mrBarnesSnrCCMworksrider_zps37a7636c.jpg) (http://s146.photobucket.com/user/vmx247/media/mrBarnesSnrCCMworksrider_zps37a7636c.jpg.html)
(http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r259/vmx247/WANDERING_MILLFARM_SCRAMBLE_2011_001_zps5887960b.jpg) (http://s146.photobucket.com/user/vmx247/media/WANDERING_MILLFARM_SCRAMBLE_2011_001_zps5887960b.jpg.html)
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This seemed to be good value considering what they have been asking for one lately ;)
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1973-CCM-500-Clewstroka-BSA-/330945381219?ViewItem=&ssPageName=ADME%3AB%3AWNA%3AAU%3A3160&item=330945381219&nma=true&si=djdgxru%252Bvt3LWm80jrfoMKLiIPQ%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
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absolute bargain. I would be very happy to squeeze that one in the garage
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Yeah i was watching that one, they always seem to go for considerably less in the USA compared to UK sales.
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That engine would have been sat on the production line with mine ! Only numbers different.
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1995
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Other-Makes-CCM-Clews-Competition-Machines-/271255395588
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Husky Pete and Shoey's new money pit is getting close ;).....new 3 speed box and all sorts of goodies.
(http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k495/firko2/CCMHP_zpsf6d51e8e.jpg) (http://s1112.photobucket.com/user/firko2/media/CCMHP_zpsf6d51e8e.jpg.html)
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Very cool Firko, I saw pics of it today and asked Pete whether it should have every second fin machined from the cylinder also?
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they were often just snapped/ chiselled off between hacksawed sections, only the flash ones were machined...
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This one hasn't had the fins chopped, the head on our one has the chopped fins but the barrel wasn't, will just leave it as is. :D
(http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy94/HuskyRacer/1978-ccm-500_zps500739ef.jpg)
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Very cool Firko, I saw pics of it today and asked Pete whether it should have every second fin machined from the cylinder also?
While most have the cutaway finning, many CCMs don't and Pete's bike is one of them. That's the way Jonesy got the bike from Sweden.
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I think the fin removal is just for bikes running on methanol that run too cold ! :) more ccm pics plz :D
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This one hasn't had the fins chopped, the head on our one has the chopped fins but the barrel wasn't, will just leave it as is. :D
(http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy94/HuskyRacer/1978-ccm-500_zps500739ef.jpg)
They're awesome bikes Pete, keen to see yours in the flesh one day..
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looks like youre going for a dellorto looking at the inlet manifold?
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Just rebuilding a 79 4 valve at the moment. I raced this many years ago in pre 80 down here. Nice thing to ride but hard work against the quick guys on YZ and RM400's though. I tried to bribe them to let me win but they wouldn't be in it. ;D
Stan.
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The boys are going gung ho on the CCM for the upcoming rash of big events. I've known Jonesy for 25 years and its the only bike I've ever known him sell besides the Alron 20 years ago. It's gone to a good home. Are you going to fit a groovy marble effect seat like the NOS bike in the bottom photo Pete 8)?
(http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k495/firko2/78CCM_zps4a91576e.jpg) (http://s1112.photobucket.com/user/firko2/media/78CCM_zps4a91576e.jpg.html)
(http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k495/firko2/CCMNEW_zpsb040c9af.jpg) (http://s1112.photobucket.com/user/firko2/media/CCMNEW_zpsb040c9af.jpg.html)
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I dont know why but I just love the look of the exhaust on these bikes.
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Firko, the 2 4T gurus from Klub Kevlar are coming over tomorrow to peruse the mighty CCM and lend some technical support ;)
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(http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r259/vmx247/970751_10200518142489712_2004470828_n_zpsb26f7256.jpg) (http://s146.photobucket.com/user/vmx247/media/970751_10200518142489712_2004470828_n_zpsb26f7256.jpg.html)
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Quote:Here is a photo of my Dad on his last bike as a supported rider for CCM. Taken in 1981. My father (Mike Barnes) was the first person ever to race a CCM and became the first CCM factory rider. We still own his original "works" bike.
Who said facebook suck's :)
Hi Brit boys
The CCM is one very cool bike.
(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f65/djracingyz/BritishBikeDay07045.jpg)
(http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r259/vmx247/keithbarnesdadthisbikeisnowinNZ_zps547ea6db.jpg) (http://s146.photobucket.com/user/vmx247/media/keithbarnesdadthisbikeisnowinNZ_zps547ea6db.jpg.html)
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We have a sponsor for "Best performance by a British bike" at the 2013 Classic titles :-)
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Mark
The mighty CCM is getting the Marbelled red seat cover.
Diane and I are off on Friday afternoon to see Geoff Morris at Broadford on Saturday morning to pick up the repaired and re nickled frame
Pete has the engine nearly ready.
This has been a sensational project to date
Still waiting on some parts from the UK.
All being fair and reasonable in the next few weeks we will be real close
Cheers
Shoey
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Mark
The mighty CCM is getting the Marbelled red seat cover.
It's all about style Shoey ;D. I'm looking forward to seeing it. I'll have to shine the Cheney up a tad more to try and outshine the mighty CCM. 8)
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Hey Mark
"Certainly is"
Its that shiny that we will be providing saftey sunnies to all the boy's so nobody gets any eye damage.
Can't wait to get it dirty
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Motors all but finished and Shoey has just picked up the frame after repairs by GMC
(http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy94/HuskyRacer/IMG_2123_zpsfde3c598.jpg)
(http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy94/HuskyRacer/IMG_2124_zps275fdcec.jpg)
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We have a sponsor for "Best performance by a British bike" at the 2013 Classic titles :-)
Good stuff Col...
So if I ride like a sack of potatoes but the B50 performs well........
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Far out.....Prototype Swedish Gold shocks. This thing is Uber cool
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http://www.vintagemx.us/cgi-bin/largephoto.cgi?C=75pjSUjKovySMgDC&w=1 (http://www.vintagemx.us/cgi-bin/largephoto.cgi?C=75pjSUjKovySMgDC&w=1)
Is this the real deal? Is it really a CCM with a Honda engine? The welds look shithouse to me so I wonder if it is what it is purported to be? Price looks reasonable if true blue.
(http://i619.photobucket.com/albums/tt272/berquist01/OZVMX/d9a99e3e7e0a6087275e784aebafe4a2.jpg)
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FOR SALE
Ad # 3222162 September 1, 2013
1980 JBR Honda CCM. When have you ever seen one of these for sale in the United States. I should say when have you ever seen one in the United States. There was only 26 of these made and this is number 16. I was told by the original owner it was used in the Paris motorcycle show and then shipped to the states were he bought it. This bike is all original (tires,plastic,etc) other then the engine was painted black by the original owner. I am the second owner. The bike has a very small indentation on top of the tank and a little rust on the swingarm were it is braced for the lower shock mount. Other then that the bike is mint as you can see from the photos. I put in one that is a period pic. It has a XR500 engine. $8500
Mark Nelson
Royal Oak, MI
Phone: 248-541-3105 | Email
Registered Since 7/15/2009 | 28 Posts
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Looks to be a ridgy didge JBR (John Banks Racing) to me. JBR was formed after Banks left CCM so I'm not so sure about the tank stickers?
Either way, the JBR is a very collectable and competitive bit of kit. If only it could find it's way into my shed. I'd even forgo my C&J dream.
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While I have no doubt that it's a genuine CCM JBR, I agree with PEZberg that some of the welding is pretty ordinary....very unBritish. It's especially bad on the swing arm gussets and the little frame gusset immediately in front of the Ohlins reservoir. Compare it to the good brazing on the top shock mount and steering head gusset and it becomes obvious that the badly welded parts could be later additions or repairs. JBR CCM frames have a bad reputation for bending and breaking so this frame may have some later repairs. Mark Cooks PES Engineering makes a replica JBR that apparently addresses all of the originals shortcomings. http://www.ccm-britain.co.uk/?xhtml=xhtml/homepage/default.html&xsl=homepage.xsl (http://www.ccm-britain.co.uk/?xhtml=xhtml/homepage/default.html&xsl=homepage.xsl)
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I think you're absolutley spot on the money Mark and Pezberg. Some of the welds are very unBritish like.
Still, it isn't anything that can't be rectified with a bit of time and patience. Seems like a bloody good buy to me. And nearly as rare as the proverbial rocking horse poo....
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It's the real deal. Rod spry will build you a new one. Drool at the quality of his frames .. Pure art
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Two CCMs entered for the Classic Nats :-)
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B50 on gumtree..west aussie.and no its not the fireflyer.
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Two CCMs entered for the Classic Nats :-)
I'd like to make three.
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Hows this for a neat tidy event with some neat and tidy bikes 8) 8)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=4DFFzrzrYWY
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There was one Enduro Model same as the yellow one in the photo,
floating around Moranbah from new owned and raced by Mike Greenaway,
then returned to the Dealer after a month or 2, (he didn,t get on with it)
and then raced by his son Greg Ives around Mackay.
It then disapeared in the early eighties, possibly went to Brisbane?
Was a Thundering good thing, like to find it nowadays!
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Does Tadpole have any of his bikes now. Last saw him about 8-10 years ago, broke his ankle at Dray park riding the newly built red métis se. He was stating it was going to be hard to convince the warden to let him out again.
Rosco86
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-CCM-CCM-350-Trials-Bike-/321411503040?forcerrptr=true&hash=item4ad59e53c0&item=321411503040&pt=US_motorcycles
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that's a nice one. By normal CCM Trials prices (advertised ones anyway) it's cheap. Of course what they actually sell for could be something completely different.
The dollar price is about £4700, roughly half what is typically asked for a nice one. If it was in the UK at that price I would be buying it. It would look nice in my garage!
We do live in strange times, so I wonder if it will find a home.....
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JSW3aFYnYAM
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Hi,
the CCM still advertised in Just Bikes was sold in one day ,3 months ago , they haven't stopped showing it , sorry.
cheers
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WANRING OLD THREAD
Paddy's mate selling his ride :D
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1973-ccm-bsa-twinshock-evo-motocross-/331369216689?pt=UK_Motorcycles&hash=item4d2724fab1
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I think I'd want a bit more preparation for racing for that sort of money. $13K Oz dollar without shipping and it needs new shocks and a new seat cover at the very least......I'm not that desperate for a CCM
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CCM-580-Factory-Works-Bike-Classic-Motocross-Twin-shock-Vintage-MX-VERY-RARE-/261698214416?pt=UK_Motorcycles&hash=item3cee6dda10#viTabs_0
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the world has gone mad.
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There has been a few parts go missing over the years and it will require all new plastics, seat, and electrics, a complete engine re-build with new bearings, bushes & shims, re-build both wheels with new rims. If it was me i would bead blast the engine casings & the frame then get it re-plated. All in all I would estimate and total cost of around £3.000 tops to put this bike back to concurs condition which will give it a potential price tag of £30K plus.
I have tears in my eyes. £3k to restore it to concours. Ha, dream on. I only wish that were the case. The motor can swallow that in the blink of an eye. I doubt you could get it race ready for that. £5k+ in the motor alone if you want a flyer and that is just on the motor. Frame needs replating. Clucking bell and that is also done in the £3k restoration???? This is 2014 not 1982! A set of spokes is £90 now, plus builds, shoes, rims, tyres, sprocket, paint the hubs. Kiss £1000 good buy to sort the wheels out. Shocks ~ gulp.... the list goes on.
If anyone can completely rebuilt a CCM to new concours condition, please contact me urgently.
I have a couple of concours works CCMs that I would sell for £30k a piece. Form a que here.....
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the world has gone mad.
It sure has. It seems people will pay more for a basket case than they will for a well prepared running bike. Even if this one does have proven history.....It still needs a truck load of cash thrown at it.
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I have never seen a CCM works bike with just bore and stroke on it..... but I guess they did what needed to be done to go racing on Sunday.
I would want to know who rode it where and when.
I wonder how genuine the bids are......
Oh and reserve not met..... gulp!
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Yeah, I thought the "works" motors had CD (competition Development) stamped before the bore x stroke? I was wondering about the frame number as well. Seems to be a production number to me but I ain't no expert.
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CD goes further back to the BSA Comp Department. Nothing to do with CCM. So that fact it doesnt have CD in the number is nothing to worry about.
Early numbers are typically work bikes, but that isn't a given. CCM still hold the records of who had what....
Not that it matters to me, it is way over my budget and I have a shed full of projects to finish without adding more.....
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Even if I did the money to splash around, I wouldn't be buying that bike for all the obvious reasons.
The CCM motors had the month and year stamped before the bore x stroke didn't they? Something like 1076 90 x 90 ?
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CCM-580-Factory-Works-Bike-Classic-Motocross-Twin-shock-Vintage-MX-VERY-RARE-/261698214416?pt=UK_Motorcycles&hash=item3cee6dda10#viTabs_0
nearly $12,000 Aus :o :P
The CCM motors had the month and year stamped before the bore x stroke didn't they? Something like 1076 90 x 90 ?
yes for frames pre70 - pre80 ie C72 = 1972
interesting to note is that CCM is probably the only factory with the sacred scrolls with bikes made on the production line still in existence.
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That's what I thought Alison. Thanks.
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Hi, I was told by the man who actually assembled the CCM engine I had, that the numbers were ;
bore and stroke eg; 9090
compression ; 10
year of production 75
production number 33
cheers
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Thanks for the info Bamford..... Those engine number sequences ring a bell. Thanks
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easter thumper
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1976-CCM-CLEWS-COMPETITION-MOTORCYCLES-RARE-AND-HIGHLY-COLLECTIBLE-/231521454262?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_15&hash=item35e7c108b6
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Bit out of my price range but a very nice bike.
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very nice. Being fussy, Ceriani fork seal covers on Marzocchi legs, dont work. I have the right covers and stainless clips to do that right. if the owner is on here and wants some to finish the job of correctly, get in touch
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http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/ccm-500-vmx-/131488359818?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_15&hash=item1e9d51258a
another one, 76, although has a 75 s/arm and tank
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http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/ccm-500-vmx-/131488359818?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_15&hash=item1e9d51258a
another one, 76, although has a 75 s/arm and tank
sweet that could come delivered to the Classic Nationals in September to WA ;) :) 8)
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My friend owned that ccm which currently on ebay, he sold to the current owner. nice bike.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7OtY4r66o8&feature=youtu.be
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I just fund out one of our pommie members has a 2 stroke Hiro CCM back in the UK I'll see if I can get some photos
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TRIALS Treat
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/321753214284
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Jack Mathews was the Macclesfield motorcycle club president which I was a member of in the mid 80's. He ran a successful motorbike shop a was an all round good guy with a great passion for the sport :)
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USA...what a pearler
http://www.ebay.com/itm/301666679146
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Last Sunday at Thornbill UK
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycsIO0YOK2c&feature=youtu.be
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7 bids ..............
http://www.ebay.com/itm/171980887614
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and another ..............
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CCM-bsa-4valve-twinshock-580-1981-classic-motocross-bike-/272028844529?roken=cUgayN
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Shippings cheap ;D
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/CCM-500-600-clews-big-six-bsa-b50-lito-eso-rickman-cheney-engine-/131657248369?hash=item1ea7622e71:g:XpIAAOSw~bFWNdU4
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$8,800.00 for a second hand worn out engine plus shipping....you have to be joking.....
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Thats crazy, it will cost another 5000 to rebuild it.
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I agree. buy my B50Mx motor for rebuild for half that price! At least you will get what you want for Christmas rather than another set of sports socks!!!!
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Lighten Up !! 8)
http://m.ebay.com/itm/262515617887?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&_mwBanner=1
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Western Australian Rolling Thunder on Gumtree.................
http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/middle-swan/motorcycles/1974-ccm-motorcross/1119993546?utm_source=transactional&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=shared_ad