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Clubroom => Bike Talk => Topic started by: mainline on November 11, 2009, 07:30:33 pm
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A guy I know has one and has had a few issues. Mainly excessive oil consumption. The situation may have turned a bit nastier over the weekend though.
Just wondering if anyone had any experiences with this model?
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LEMON
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oil consumption is a problem with current model 4 stroke ktms
they all do it either keep feeding it rings
or buy a 2 smoker ;)
then it can blow all the smoke it likes ;D
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EXCR motors, both 450 and 530 have definitely had a few issues with oil consumption, poor ring design and a fault with the primary drive gear ( a two piece pressed together design on the 08, changed to a welded design on 09) to blame. Call Bruce Bolton at Bolton motorcycles on 03 54222255 and he has a good fix for the issues, and 99.99% guaranteed to have necessary parts in stock.
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KTM 2 strokes have their own problems, mainly jetting issues. (well the 250 sx's anyway)
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the 09 450 have a problem with the cam bearing pressed in to far the seal then dosnt seal this lets the oil in to the vacum hose on the rocker cover which is then sucked in to the carbi and the oil is burnt with the air fuel mixture the other problem is the oil scrapper ring end gap is to small causing the ring to flex losing its ablity to seal properly
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cheers guys, I'm thinking he's had nearly every problem you've mentioned ::)
I'll pass on those contact details, thanks again
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Geez, sounds like you've gotta be rich to own one of these new fangled jiggers. :D
A mate of mine had a YZ450F that blew a big end before he wore out his first set of chain and sprockets. And the dealer expressed no surprise at that. :o
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Geez, sounds like you've gotta be rich to own one of these new fangled jiggers. :D
A mate of mine had a YZ450F that blew a big end before he wore out his first set of chain and sprockets. And the dealer expressed no surprise at that. :o
http://www.fullnoise.com.au/
just throw em away and get a newer model. ;D
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Unfortunately the 530 is a piece of junk :-\
KTM really got it wrong in my opinion, In my group of trailriding mates we have owned probably 50 520/525's since 2000. A few minor dramas but when it came time for a new model we automatically bought a new KTM. Now with the 530 that has all changed we are all looking for a new brand to go to. The few guys that were unlucky enough to by the 530 are spewing and have them for sale.
One guys bike has done 3000k has been torn down under warranty and is still a noisy oil burning piece of shit!
But the worst thing is on the 530 they have moved all the power to the top end, it revs an extra 2000rpm so instead of being able to plod up a hill using all the torque you have to rev the guts out of it and get on the clutch like riding a 250 4stroke.
My mate has complained all the way to the top at KTM and their response is that they have tried to make the new KTM's more revvy like the jap bikes because that is what everyone wants ??? Thats funny, I thought KTM's became popular because they weren't like the jap bikes ::)
I rode a 530 again on Friday last week up in the high country...was very happy to hand it back!
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I love the older 520/525 (and even the bulletproof 400).....what's so different to cause these obviously big problems that weren't so apparent in the early models? I was toying with getting a 530 but don't want a Lemon, I've got enough vintage ones!
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what's so different to cause these obviously big problems that weren't so apparent in the early models?
COMPLETELY different engine Firko! IMHO, the RFS motor (early 250 - 525) was the ants pants and did everything well. The new motor does nothing for me. My '05 450 is a stump puller that shames the new motors...who needs all the power towards the top end? Gets mighty tiring towards the end of the ride!
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Own a `08 530 and have for 2 1/2 yrs and not had one single problem
Mick 22...If you have to fan the clutch on a 530 like a 250 may i suggest you change down from 6th gear
Owned a `04 525 also ( 2 oil filters...2 screens, head shake like all F..K ) ....Give me a 530 anytime
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Mick 22...If you have to fan the clutch on a 530 like a 250 may i suggest you change down from 6th gear
I guess if you ride around on billard tables its not an issue :)
Ride a 525 and a 530 back to back on the same hill and you'll see what I mean
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Better still Mick ride them both from Traralgon to Nowra ( KTM Seven deadly Sins tour ) and tell me what you think
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A mate of mine had a YZ450F that blew a big end before he wore out his first set of chain and sprockets. And the dealer expressed no surprise at that. :o
Yeah the RMZs have some endearing problems as well.....but hey more decent chassis to slip old 500 2 strokes into.
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I also heard of a shaft that runs through somepart of the water pump area or something like that and the seal that keeps the water from entering the engine is failing on the 08 09 450 allowing water into oil ??? sorry, bit confusing but just trying to remember what the mechanic was saying.. i prob fugged it up ::)
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I also heard of a shaft that runs through somepart of the water pump area or something like that and the seal that keeps the water from entering the engine is failing on the 08 09 450 allowing water into oil ??? sorry, bit confusing but just trying to remember what the mechanic was saying.. i prob fugged it up ::)
there is the problem with kick back on compression snapping the back off the crankcases, really inconvenient. Normally though the Japanese are more committed to sorting it out.
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Must say for a modern, my 07 Wr450 has endured 11,000 hard k's and I haven't even opened the rocker cover and nothing has broken. Good all round rock solid reliable bike. But I am going back to a 2 dinger soon...
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Owned a `04 525 also ( 2 oil filters...2 screens, head shake like all F..K ) ....
get the CORRECT spring and set the sag within the proper parameters and it WILL NOT head shake!
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TeeBone,
Did that...from memory a 4.4 to a 4.6 or 4.8 85 mm sag on the 04, Heavier fork springs just like i did on the 08. I never bagged the 04 I just reckon the 08 is streets ahead of the 04 as one would expect
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Ted> Fair enough, but I have NEVER had one headshake once properly setup. ;)
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Just heard tonite of a couple of local blokes that just bought new KTM450's
Went out for their first ride and one bike lunched itself at 75km ???
His mate got the good bike though, he managed a second ride and almost 200km before it blew up
Both had lost all the engine oil.
WTF is going on with KTM ???
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Williscroft and Grabham suffer bad luck at Baja 1000
“We needed a bigger stator than the stock KTM 530 XCW stator to power the large lights required for the late night riding, but ours purchased through Ricky Stator in the USA failed when the solder broke on the wiring, stopping the bike at the 242 mile mark - ending our Baja ride with major disappointment,” said Williscroft.
“From the moment we arrived in Baja everything was running really well. We had great team support, and got in 1200 miles of pre running. Our confidence was high, and we had a good game plan in place for chase vehicle positioning, and which sections myself and Grabbo would ride.
“Our strategy was for Grabbo to start the race. He drew 12th position from a hat for the start, and unfortunately had to deal with a lot of riders dust. The race got underway at 6:30am, and the air was very still with no wind, so it wasn’t until around the 70 mile mark before he could get clear air, and actually start riding hard.
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Your point being?
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can you please post the link to where that Baja 1000 article comes from?
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can you please post the link to where that Baja 1000 article comes from?
It's on the Fullnoise website.
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what is the ful noise web address?
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www.fullnoise.com.au (http://www.fullnoise.com.au) Owned and run by Gary Morrow
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Mate of mine has the 530, just put a new set of rings in at 7,500 k's. 2,000 k's of that was at 130-160 kph through desert sand for 7 days. It's going strong.
There where some issues because they run seperate gearbox and engine oil and one of the crank seals would let go and flood the other case with oil causing blowby.
I'm always wary of new technology. I wasn't ready to upgrade from my 2000 520 but had to race out and grab one of the last 525's when the 530 came out. Rode them both back to back and was happy with my choice. Nothing wrong with the 530, just didn't impress me much and I liked the power of the 525 better. Plus the old motor has proven itself to be reliable.
As for head shake, as Tee bone said, set up right there's no head shake. 85mm sag is not enough, they should run at 110mm sag. I'm by far a suspension expert but it's amazing how you can fiddle with it and think it is good. Then have someone who knows a bit more about it, look at your bike tell you how wrong it is, make a couple of minor adjustments and totaly transform the bike. 05-07 handled better than 2000-2004
I kind of miss the old days when you had four preload settings. If you didn't like any you bought a set of Koni's and where done with it. Now it's hundreds of dollars at a suspension tuner and forever fiddling with clickers.