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Offline 35elsinore

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Legalities of copying parts
« on: November 16, 2012, 06:59:49 PM »
Does anyone know what the lagalities of reproducing parts for old bikes are. eg: do patents etc runout after a certain time frame etc.
This may change from manufacturer to manufacturer.
Cheers Troy

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Re: Legalities of copying parts
« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2012, 07:09:13 PM »
I can't say for sure, Troy, but I did read on the Reproduction Decals site that they only do reproductions of decals that are no longer available from the original manufacturer.
Maybe that's got something to do with the laws?
But they're in Canada I think and they're laws maybe different to here.


That didn't help much, did it?  ::)

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« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2012, 07:29:56 PM »
Patents last for 20 years in Australia (and most of the free world in believe), but trademrks last for as long as their registered.

Decals would be covered by trademark, a widget with a particular feature would be patent (or both if it had a logo on it)

Disclaimer; i do not practice law. :) Do not rely upon this infirmation

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Re: Legalities of copying parts
« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2012, 07:48:29 PM »
I was looking into producing engine stator covers. Most of which probabley have the manufacturer on them. I was keen on having them look original, but maybe leaving the name eg. honda off of them.

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Re: Legalities of copying parts
« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2012, 08:17:33 PM »
i reckon if you have the skills there is good money to be made for Honda clutch cases 125,250 & 500 from around 1982 - 1990 made in aluminium as the OEM magnesium case  corrode the water pump out. >:(

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« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2012, 09:15:15 PM »
reproduced ,stator and clutch covers for CR's with ,HRC,MUGEN etc are sold openly on ebay from Holland.

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« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2012, 09:29:52 PM »
Moto do they have the whole case or just the clutch access covers? if its the whole case do you have a link?
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« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2012, 09:39:59 PM »
Moto do they have the whole case or just the clutch access covers? if its the whole case do you have a link?

Sorry HOONASUARUS  just the access covers .thats 87 on isnt it ?

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« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2012, 10:32:12 PM »
Alloy water pump case = licence to print money....
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Re: Legalities of copying parts
« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2012, 06:29:56 AM »
Someone in the states used to do a cr125 m stator cover. Another in the uk has done the cr125 '83 model. You won't get any grief from the small numbers you would do. I run the gauntlet more than that when I had some bar pads made up with the fox logo on it. Again I only did a small number of them. Go for it I say.
I will buy an 85 cr500 one off you if you do that one. 

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Re: Legalities of copying parts
« Reply #10 on: November 17, 2012, 06:35:55 AM »
Use the china theory DGAF , dont give a F$%%
If in doubt ,WIND IT OUT

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Re: Legalities of copying parts
« Reply #11 on: November 17, 2012, 06:59:37 AM »
Put me down for a compoets 85 cr 500 clutch cover

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Re: Legalities of copying parts
« Reply #12 on: November 17, 2012, 08:27:08 AM »
husky clutch covers for a/c and l/c of the 80s are being reproed by HVA factory in the UK ,(cast then milled) so I wouldnt see it an issue.
mind you husky has changed hands several times since then
Any no. of ignition covers out there.
Surely its not an issue if NOS is n/a?

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Re: Legalities of copying parts
« Reply #13 on: November 17, 2012, 08:37:12 AM »
Moto do they have the whole case or just the clutch access covers? if its the whole case do you have a link?

Sorry HOONASUARUS  just the access covers .thats 87 on isnt it ?


no problem her Brentenheimer, yes 87 on is correctamondo
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« Reply #14 on: November 17, 2012, 10:49:11 AM »
Interestingly HVA Factory have stopped making repro alloy clutch covers. They would have been expensive to get made and even selling for $400 Aus he is not going to make anymore. Has some left so get in quick! Guess they aren't a license to print money for Huskys anyway :o
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